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Message 1
From: Mary Krieger
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 08:21:47 -0600
Subject: [Baren 24430] Re: sizing question from new member
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Hi Jamie,

As you get ready to hear people's various experiences, remember the forum
holds expertise about three different and distinct inking methods for
woodblock...

1. oil-based ink -traditional Western inking method (ink spread on slab and
transferred to block by roller, printed on dry or dampened paper)

2. water-based ink - water based ink designed to replace oil-based ink in
traditional Western method

3. rice paste / pigment - traditional Japanese method ( rice paste and
pigment applied separately with brushes directly to the block and mixed
there, always on dampened paper)

It is likely that the water based inks you are asking about will perform
more closely to the oil-based inks that you are familiar with than the rice
paste/pigment combination. Have fun!

Mary Krieger
Winnipeg MB

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Message 2
From: Myron Turner
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 08:40:08 -0600
Subject: [Baren 24431] Re: sizing question from new member
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The Graphic Chemical water soluble relief inks are a substitute for
traditional oil based inks and are used in the same way as oil-based inks.
You might find some differences. For instance, the black, which I
sometimes use, is not as intense--not as black--as their traditional (oil)
relief black. The other difference is that the water soluble inks from DS
clean up with water.

When I started using the water soluble black, I wrote DS asking whether
there was still an oily rag hazard and was told that there is. I had the
impression that there might in fact be oil in this ink, despite its water
solubility. But the fire hazard could come from some other ingredient.

Myron Turner

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Message 3
From: L Cass
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 10:10:51 -0500
Subject: [Baren 24432] Re: sizing question from new member
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Hi -

I have been using Graph Chem waterbase inks very successfully on a wide
variety of Japanese papers (sized and unsized - damp and dry) as well as
western papers such as Arches and Rives (rolled out and printed same as ink
base) I can even hand colour my prints when dry without bleeding of colour
- just experiment to see if you prefer the look on dampened papers or dry
- obviously one would choose papers that have some strength - archival
papers are best but expensive - it seems that the japanese papers have
different names wherever they are sold so there's no point going into names
Have a look at www.japanesepaperplace.com (has pics, descriptions and
suggested use of a wide variety to see if you can identify your paper
Louise Cass

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Message 4
From: richard stockham
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 08:37:24 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 24433] Re: Wide Cherry Boards
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Kent-o

So, given your predeliction for the multilayed
exruciatingly detailed print I guess you'll get one 16
plate oban print out of that board, n'est pas? Carve
your heart out, buddy!

Richard Stockham
Birmingham, Alabama

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Message 5
From: "marilynn smih"
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 08:53:49 -0800
Subject: [Baren 24434] Re: Hello from a newbie :o)
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I think arches 88 is a beautiful paper. It is very white very smooth and
accepts ink very well. Just do not soak it. I have used this paper a lot
for monotypes and also for linoblocks, yet to try it on a wood cut. In
monotype the more ink the paper soaks up the stronger the print, duh, so
this paper soaks it in well. I was taught to dip it in water, than hold it
by a corner and let the water drip off and than place it between newsprint
inside a blotter and blot, never had a piece disingrate yet. If you learn to
use your products correctly they will preform well for you. This list
serves as a great space to ask if what you want to do will work and as a
place to help solve those unending problems artists face with each new
piece. Yeah for Baren.
Marilynn

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Message 6
From: "HARRY FRENCH"
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 18:43:09 -0000
Subject: [Baren 24435] New member : Introduction
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Greetings Baren Forum,
I have just logged in as a new member after visiting the site over the past
months. I am, naturally, apprehensive as many of you follow eastern printing
techniques. My own printing methods are European i.e. printing press,
rollers, linseed oil based inks and (mainly) machine made papers with
Imperial and Metric sizes.
However, our wood and tools are identical for the cutting process.
I note that new members introduce themselves through the forum, so here I
go..if you are reading this Email then you should have access to the
Internet and to save time and effort you could visit my non- commercial
website to find out about my work etc.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/h.french1/GALLERIES.htm

I'm not Hi-Tech so don't expect a web designer site: mine is utilitarian
and functional. The magazine that offered the website software said
beginners would be up and running in 90 minutes....well 14 month's later I
launched it! I am much happier platen crushing my woodcuts than scanning and
uploading.

I live in a village (population about 3000) in Lincolnshire, eastern England
(UK) and share a very small studio in Scothern several miles away. Most of
my recent work is based upon the Lincolnshire environment which is rural and
mainly agricultural with a flat and undulating landscape. Each week I go
with my family to the city of Lincoln for shopping and leisure. We frequent
the "top hill" quarter around the Bailgate that is entered by driving or
walking through an ancient Roman archway passing by William the Conqueror's
castle (1068AD) and our massive Gothic cathedral. This area is also
(obviously) a constant theme in my work.

I hope to join the exchanges as soon as possible and will digest, for a
time, the main themes of the forum before making contributions.
Kind regards,
Harry French

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Message 7
From: chris bremmer
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 11:00:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 24436] Re: New member : Introduction
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Hi Harry,

Nice photo gallery, and interesting woodcuts!

Chris

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Message 8
From: Mike Lyon
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 13:05:54 -0600
Subject: [Baren 24437] Re: New member : Introduction
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Harry French wrote:
>I note that new members introduce themselves through the forum, so here I
>go..if you are reading this Email then you should have access to the
>Internet and to save time and effort you could visit my non- commercial
>website to find out about my work etc.
>
>http://homepage.ntlworld.com/h.french1/GALLERIES.htm

Thanks for the link to your site! I enjoyed "Old Shoreham Toll Bridge"
especially! Beautiful print! No need to worry about
East vs. West thing -- majority of members (and printers) are 'Western'
style, so you'll feel right at home, I'm sure! Look forward to seeing your
near-future exchange participation... In any event, welcome!

-- Mike


Mike Lyon
http://mlyon.com

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Message 9
From: Daniel Dew
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 14:18:00 -0500
Subject: [Baren 24438] Re: New member : Introduction
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Also, a hardy welcome to the new member!


Daniel L. Dew
In a new job
http://www.dandew.com

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Message 10
From: Woodblocksteve # aol.com
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 17:07:45 EST
Subject: [Baren 24439] Arches 88
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Hi Everyone,

I've done a few prints with Arches 88 and I quite like it. It hasn't shown
any tendency to fall apart yet. I dip it in a water bath and blot it right
away. Its amazing how much water it takes up. The fact that it goes transparent
when wet is an advantage to me because I don't have a press and when it's on
the block I can see where to press with my wooden spoon. Also it dries
perfectly flat. I'm using it with Akua Colour and you can control how soft the print
is by how long you leave it before printing. Its stays wet for ages and it
works out quite well with multilayer prints. The first layers are quite soft
and they get progressively less soft as you add more layers.

I wouldn't use it all the time but for some kinds of picture it seems ideal.

Cheers
Steve

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Message 11
From: ArtfulCarol # aol.com
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 17:45:00 EST
Subject: [Baren 24440] Re: New member : Introduction
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To all new Members:
Welcome!
You are in the right place for information, responses, and support. As one
of our members would say- a kind and gentle organization and I will add- an
unequalled imagination.
Baren Fan
Carol L.

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Message 12
From: Aqua4tis # aol.com
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 20:09:44 EST
Subject: [Baren 24441] Re: New member : Introduction
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welcome to baren harry
i really like your work especially the the medieval prints
georga

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Message 13
From: Cucamongie # aol.com
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 20:54:00 -0500
Subject: [Baren 24442] southern graphics council
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hi all, if any of you folks that are bound for the sgc this year are going to be coming into NYC on the day that the sgc comes to nyc, I will have 10 of my prints in one of the galleries that will be on the tour list:
the show is called "Pressing Work"
It is a curated show which selected among printmakers who are members of the National Association of Women Artists
Gallery 928
928 Broadway, Suite 600
(between 21 and 22 st)
New York
info: 212-675-1616
Opening: Thursday March 11, 5-7 pm
Hours: Tues-Sat 11am -6pm

Also, I may be going to the sgc one of the days when it's happening, so it would be great if people who are going can "speak up" so some of us can meet each other if possible.
best wishes
Sarah

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Message 14
From: MccarthyDb # aol.com
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 21:38:32 EST
Subject: [Baren 24443] Re: southern graphics council
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>Also, I may be going to the sgc one of the days when it's happening, so it would be
>great if people who are going can "speak up" so some of us can meet
>each other if possible.best wishesSarah

I am going- all three days. Would love to meet up with fellow bareners-
Bobette McCarthy

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