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Message 1
From: GWohlken
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 08:29:20 -0500
Subject: [Baren 24045] Florida Printmakers' message Missing in HTML (Jan 30) Digest
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For those who receive the html version of the digest, Dan Dew's message
from the Florida Printmakers' didn't come through, but does show in the
"old" version of the digest. If you tossed that before checking, the
message can be found in the archives.

http://www.barenforum.org/archives/vol26/v26_2529.html#24044

~Gayle/Baren Archivist

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Message 2
From: Darrell Madis
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 06:54:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 24046] Exchange 18a
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Many thanks to Dan Dew for coordinating this exchange. Nice bunch of prints, very intersting.

Darrell

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Message 3
From: Margaret Szvetecz
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 07:24:41 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [Baren 24047] calendaring paper
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I saw my primary lithography teacher do this one time when he was printing an edition (I think for a visiting artist ).

Anyway, he ran the paper through the litho press (one sheet at a time) to stretch it so it would be dimensionally stable before doing the edition.

I don't think he always did this for paper for editions--maybe this was a print needing more exact registration, or maybe it was one in which litho and intaglio were being combined. It was so long ago I just can't remember...


Margaret Szvetecz
margarszv@earthlink.net

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Message 4
From: Janet Hollander
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 10:31:08 -0500
Subject: [Baren 24048] Re: Shunga Exchange
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Oops - I'm ready to ship my Pillow Book prints but can't find the shipping
address! I'll just sit by my computer til someone answers. If we shouldn't
post addresses on the forum, for security reasons, call me at 201-435-5671.

Thanks -
Janet

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Message 5
From: "marilynn smih"
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 07:54:01 -0800
Subject: [Baren 24049] paper stretching
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I have never stretched paper. But I will disagree that it won't make a
difference. Last winter i did a small lino reduction print, press run. The
second swipe through my Baja mini press and the paper had stretched and the
registration was off. I think it probably depends on how thick the paper is
and possibly even the sizing. Sorry I do not recall the paper i used, but
it was a western print paper, possibly BFK or Arches 88????
Marilynn, in Baja watching her spouse on the balcony, in the sun hanging our
cocnut bird chime

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Message 6
From: Darrell Madis
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 08:03:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 24050] Re: Shunga Exchange
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Shipping address is on this page, down at the bottom:
http://www.barenforum.org/exchange/exchange_19/exchange_19.html

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Message 7
From: charles mcneely
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:32:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 24051] enchange 18
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Received the exchange prints yesterday! What a wonderful surprise ,after a long day of work and class (and snow). I spent some time just going through them again and again. It was like that book that you cant put down!! Many thank to Gilda for all the work collecting and shipping them out to everyone

Charles McNeely
Enon Ohio



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Message 8
From: MccarthyDb # aol.com
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 13:11:34 EST
Subject: [Baren 24052] Exchange 18
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I just got my package of prints-what a wonderful surprise. This was my first
exchange and I didn't know what to expect- fabulous everyone! Thank you all
and special thanks to Gilda who braved raging wildfires and still persevered,
finding time to make her own paper! Bobette McCarthy (Maine)

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Message 9
From: Sharri LaPierre
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 10:35:02 -0800
Subject: [Baren 24053] LPE II
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Calling all LPE people. Apparently we have the wrong address for the
following people:

Gilda Zimmerling
Mary Kuster
Dimitris Grammatikopulos

If you are one of these folk, or if you know how to reach them would
you let me know, please?

The date prints are due in my studio is March 1 and we would like to
know by Feb. 1 how many people are participating. If I have not heard
from you by Sunday, we will consider you non-participants, so please
let me know before Sun. if you want to stay on the list.

Cheers from the already bedraggled coordinator,
Sharri

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Message 10
From: "carol wagner"
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:09:16 -0800
Subject: [Baren 24054] Kudos and ticked funny bone
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Dear Emma Jane, what a nifty 1st leather book! Thanks for sharing the
pictures, and least I forget, Bette, I almost fell off my chair laughing at
those 12 charming monkeys. And then there was the Goya link via Shireen.
Such a surfeit of good images spurred me on to print my Mayan monkey scribe
all in one go (the better part of last night)and now I sit surrounded by
drying prints which somehow will get into the mail this coming week when I
can find my riundtoit. Very fey things, those roundtoits.

To all whose monkeys have recently tumbled out of my mail box: Frank Truba,
Ruth leaf, Patti Phare-Camp, Nancy Osadchuk, Monica Bright, John Center, and
Emma Jane Hogbin. a very big thank you for brightening my days. One of my
chief pleasures in being part of Baren is
participating in the New Years exchange, and then reading all the ensuing
backgrounds, tales and comments concerning the production of each exchange
card .

Barbara. how exciting, not to say how kind of you, to go and work with Maria
on the puzzle print. Am so looking forward to getting my print. And while I
am on the subject of Maria and prints, Maria, we have a very good gallery
here that owns a huge intaglio press and the manager has indicated to me
that The Foundry gallery would be interested in leaning more about woodcut
in general. I have been telling them about both Baren and you in particular.
Is it possible to think about your coming through Sacramento on your 'out
west road trip' and maybe doing a one or two day workshop, or some sort of
'show and tell' ? When you can find your roundtoit, you can let me know your
thoughts on this idea, that is after you and Barbara have revived each other
and rested up!

Last, but not least, Julio. as I ordered an extra landscape and a B desk
calendar, methinks I might owe you some postage money? please to inform me
if so, when you mail off my calendars.

Best to all
Carol in Sacramento

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Message 11
From: jack reisland
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:25:01 -1000
Subject: [Baren 24055] Re:paper stretching
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Dave,

What capacity are you looking for (paper width) on this gadget?

Jack R.

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Message 12
From: Shireen Holman
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:59:26 -0500
Subject: [Baren 24056] puzzle prints
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Barbara and Maria, it sounds as thought you've been having fun. 75 prints
that size in one day is a real accomplishment! I can't wait to see them.
Shireen

***********************************************
Shireen Holman, Printmaker and Book Artist
email: shireen@shireenholman.com
http://www.shireenholman.com
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Message 13
From: Julio.Rodriguez # walgreens.com
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:11:36 -0600
Subject: [Baren 24057] Re: What do you call this?
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"...when I said 'flattening' paper I didn't mean just taking creases
out of it, but actually _thinning_ it down ... a _lot_. For this, I
think I need quite a bit of pressure, and almost certainly steel
rollers..."

Ok Dave, I give up...my inquiring mind wants to know why you need to have
the hosho paper thinned down "a-lot" ? Bad paper batch ? Special type of
delicate printing ?


Sharri... I am still good for the LPE 2, what are the min & max sizes
paper sizes allowed ?

thanks....Julio Rodriguez (Skokie, Illinois)

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Message 14
From: Catherine Dreiss
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:38:14 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
Subject: [Baren 24058] Re: What do you call this?
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>I would not bother prestreching it with such a small block. If it is 3x4 feet,
>that is another story...

Thanks, everyone. Yes, it is 3 by 4 feet! I should have said that. I will dampen the paper
and run it through the press before I print. I love printing, yet at the same time I find it
stupifyingly tedious - so just what I need - another step to go through! Yay. I'll report back
in a few weeks if I notice better registration with this new print.

Catherine Dreiss

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Message 15
From: Ray Hudson
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 17:21:00 -0500
Subject: [Baren 24059] Year of the Monkey
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My somewhat somber Monkeys have truged through the snow to the post
office and are off on their way.
Ray Hudson
(Middlebury, Vermont)

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Message 16
From: David Bull
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 08:10:40 +0900
Subject: [Baren 24060] Re:paper stretching
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Jack wrote:
> What capacity are you looking for (paper width) on this gadget?

I have to run o-ban sheets through it, so I'll need just about 30 cm in
width.

Julio asked:
> Ok Dave, I give up...my inquiring mind wants to know why you need
> to have the hosho paper thinned down "a-lot" ?  Bad paper batch ?
> Special type of delicate printing ?

It's not specifically to make the paper thin that I want to do this -
that's a sort of undesirable side-effect - it's to give a _perfectly_
smooth front surface. I'm finding the paper I get is getting 'rougher'
year by year, and it's getting to be unbearable to try and print
delicate calligraphy on it. To get all the lines to show, I have to
really 'push' the paper down onto the block, and this smucks up all the
delicacy. Meiji-era paper had a wonderfully smooth surface, and would
take impressions of astonishing delicacy; with modern paper that's just
not possible.

Paper-maker Iwano-san uses wide boards to dry the stuff out in the sun,
and I think perhaps these have become quite old and rough textured. Of
course, they must cost a fortune to replace, so I can't bug him about
it - last time I mentioned this he started to get quite angry that I was
criticizing his paper. Other papermakers dry on 'teppan' - gas heated
plates - and this gives a nice smooth surface, but I'm convinced that
this also 'cooks' the proteins in the kozo, and that paper treated that
way will definitely not last the normal 'hundreds' of years before aging.

So recently (the calligraphy print I just finished is one example), when
necessary I've been 'killing' the paper before using it by pressing it
face down on a blank block with a steel baren, but this is a hell of a
lot of work, and difficult to get even and smooth. A small set of steel
rollers in a 'mangle' arrangement should do the trick for me.

Now I just have to find one ...

Dave

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Message 17
From: Mary Brooks-Mueller
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 16:18:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 24061] Re: David Bull opening in Tokyo
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Dave,
I found your link to be broken.
Mary

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Message 18
From: Mary Brooks-Mueller
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 16:36:36 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 24062] Re: Gustave Baumann
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Anyone else interested in Gustave Bauman can go to 3
main sources:
The Prairie Prints Collection at Univ. Kansas
www.ku.edu/~sma/ppm/ppm036.htm
K.U. has a really fine print curator and collection,
better than any other in the general greater Kansas
City area.

Also, a book called: "Woodcut Techniques of Gustave
Bauman" with lots of photos of how he worked and
layered his prints. Also shows the blocks with each
demo.


Last, the you can scan the galleries in Taos and Santa
Fe, New Mexico, where collectors of Bauman abound.
Mary


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Message 19
From: Cucamongie # aol.com
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 20:11:46 -0500
Subject: [Baren 24063] exhibition
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hi all, for those in the NYC area, just wanted to let you know that I will have several framed sumi paintings and a number of matted works on exhibition as part of a group exhibition of the NY Chapter of the Sumi-E Society at The Open Center, 83 Spring Street (not far from Broadway). The theme of the show is "Nature and Symbolism in Brush Painting"). The opening is tomorrow (Saturday) from 7:30 to 9:30 pm. I'll be there in the earlier part of the opening. There are some truly wonderful artists in this group.
The show will be up til the end of February. If you'd like to go at a time other than the opening, it's best to call first (212-219-2527 ext 135), as there are some classes which are held in the exhibition spaces. The paintings are up in two different galleries within the Open Center. In general, the hours are Mon-Fri 9am-5 pm & weekends by appointment.
best wishes
Sarah

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Message 20
From: Aqua4tis # aol.com
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 20:23:21 EST
Subject: [Baren 24064] Re: update on Maria and Barbara printing in Las Vegas
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barbara
im jealous!!!!!!!!!!! i want to visit maria too cant wait to see the
prints
georga

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Message 21
From: "Maria Arango"
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 20:44:55 -0800
Subject: [Baren 24065] heeeeeeeeeeelp!!!
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Oh man, okay...she's knitting in the living room and not looking.
Hey everyone, Barbara Mason is a SLAVE DRIVER!!! She makes me work all
day, I'm so sore I can hardly type! We've done two weeks work in two
days...and she just won't stop! Oh my gosh...what am--oh oh, she's
coming she's coming...oh now, I'm hiding with the cats in the
closet...shhhhhhhhhhhhh...

HA! Just kidding, we ARE having a great time. Almost done, only 35 more
to print. We printed one block between Thurs and Fri and started on the
second block today; 100 prints of each, two for each participant and
some extras. This is hard work but we are enjoying it.
I got some ideas for the next project, and also learned some from this
one. Tough to ink and print all those little blocks sort of evenly with
as many styles as we Bareners have. But the prints are looking awesome
and I will upload some temporary pics tomorrow evening.

Oh okaaaaaaay Barbara, I will go clean my fingernails now...gee wiz...

;-) Maria


Maria Arango
www.1000woodcuts.com
Las Vegas Nevada USA

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Message 22
From: Bette Norcross Wappner
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 23:55:40 -0500
Subject: [Baren 24066] Re: heeeeeeeeeeelp!!!/puzzle prints
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You and Barbara need some fresh air! I tell my kids to go run around
the house 3 times. Do please continue with your postings! Its great to
get your updates. Both of you are so funny. Looking forward to your
photos. Even though I'm not a 'puzzle piecer', I'm excited about the
final prints and am wondering if you'll pleeeeease print extras to
sell! Or....if that's not possible....save some of your scrapped pieces
and sell them! Honest! The proceeds can go to Baren. :)

Bette.

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Message 23
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 22:38:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 24067] heeeeeeeeeeelp!!!
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OK Maria, out of that closet and into the studio!!!! No slacking or we will never get this done and all of Nevada I will see will be the inside of your lovely studio!

Actually we are both tired but feeling a little better after a walk with the dogs all around the University of Las Vegas, which has a lovely campus, and a little pizza and a big glass of scotch. Things look a lot better right now. Maria took pictures and I am afraid of how bad we will both look....you will certainly know we were working when you see that big smear of ink on my face. Maria never gets her hands dirty...I am amazed..then I saw her sneaking over and cleaning them with orange pumice hand cleaner when my back was turned....what can I say????
More later,
Barbara

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