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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:11:02 +0000
Subject: [Baren 23665] Deck of Cards Exchangers and Bareners (my new email address)
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All Bareners

Please note my change of email address -

bettewappner@fuse.net

Thank you for the time to post this here. The Deck of Cards
Exchange is still underway. Waiting for those who haven't sent theirs
in yet. Colleen and I will be making a formal post to everyone on the
updates.

To make this a legal Baren post.....here's a question.

Does anyone know of some good resources for researching
Japanese poetry incorporated within moku hanga woodblock?
Since that's my specialty, I want to know all I can, both past and
present works.

Thanks everyone.

Bette Wappner

bettewappner@fuse.net
"let the beauty we love be what we do" Rumi.
http://www.geocities.com/b_oki_art
http://www.simplyhaiku.com

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Message 2
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 07:19:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 23666] poems and woodblock
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Bette,
Well, Dave has done 100 prints of 100 poets with the poems, it was a 10 year project for him and an amazing accomplishment. You can see them on his site at www.woodblock.com . I am sure that Dave can direct you to other poetry....I thought the one posted about computers a while ago on as haiku should be translated to woodblock...maybe we should do it as an exchage. a little woodblock and computer humor, sort of appropriate for this list!
Best to you,
Barbara

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Message 3
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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:25:04 +0000
Subject: [Baren 23667] Re: poems and woodblock
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Yes, Thank goodness, with Dave's generousity, we have his great
website loaded with prints and poetry! Here's a beautiful one...

http://www.woodblock.com/surimono/2002/4-10/images/4-10closeup.jpg

Boy do I wish I could read Japanese so I could read the others.

Dave or anyone....do you generally spice in a piece of quality wood
just for the lettering? Any other fineline lettering tips to offer? Do you
use special magnifying glasses for your lettering? I'm finding my
nose plastered to the board with 2.75 lenses, so I better get busy
before I go blind.

Bette.

bettewappner@fuse.net
"let the beauty we love be what we do" Rumi.
http://www.geocities.com/b_oki_art
http://www.simplyhaiku.com

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Message 4
From: Mike Lyon
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:23:54 -0600
Subject: [Baren 23668] Re: poems and woodblock
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Barbara Mason to Bette Wapner wrote:
>thought the one posted about computers a while ago on as haiku should be
>translated to woodblock...maybe we should do it as an exchage. a little
>woodblock and computer humor, sort of appropriate for this list!

What a wonderful idea... a "Haiku print exchange"!

Our next themed exchange will be #21 (sign-up begins April 1, 2004 with an
August 1 due date). #21 is to be on 'other' size paper ('other' than
chu-ban or o-ban). For a Haiku exchange we might make surimono (literally:
printed things). You can find a short essay about surimono here:
http://www.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/japan/gallery/textP.htm A good size for a
haiku exchange might be shikishiban, often used for surimono (which most
often included one or more poems along with the image). Shikishiban is
about 9" high x 8" wide (23cm x 20.5cm).

What do you think? Do you like this "Haiku" theme for #21? Do you have
some better ideas? Hope to hear from everyone soon!

Mike


Mike Lyon
http://mlyon.com

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Message 5
From: Jsf73 # aol.com
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:16:39 EST
Subject: [Baren 23669] Re: poems and woodblock
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Mike Lyon writes:


> What do you think? Do you like this "Haiku" theme for #21? Do you have
> some better ideas? Hope to hear from everyone soon!
>
> Mike
>

Funny you should say that because I was going to do a haiku chapbook
combining letterpress and woodcuts and engravings.

Too bad I am great at prose, but cannot wax lyrical to save my life.....

John

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Message 6
From: FurryPressII # aol.com
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:31:23 EST
Subject: [Baren 23670] Re: poems and woodblock
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CAN WE ILLUSTRATE SOME ONE ELSE'S POEM ???

JOHN CENTER

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Message 7
From: ArtfulCarol # aol.com
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:52:30 EST
Subject: [Baren 23671] Re: poems and woodblock
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What about leaving the option open for "Lefties Can Carve and So Can
Righties.?
Carol L.

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Message 8
From: Mike Lyon
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:19:44 -0600
Subject: [Baren 23672] Re: poems and woodblock
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you wrote:
>What about leaving the option open for "Lefties Can Carve and So Can
>Righties.?
>Carol L.

Hasn't that 'option' been pretty much in effect for all previous (and
future) exchanges, especially if you include ambies!?? :-)

-- Mike


Mike Lyon
http://mlyon.com

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Message 9
From: Myron Turner
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:13:09 -0600
Subject: [Baren 23673] Re: poems and woodblock
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Did you mean zombies?

you wrote:

>Hasn't that 'option' been pretty much in effect for all previous (and
>future) exchanges, especially if you include ambies!?? :-)
>
>-- Mike

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Message 10
From: "MPereira"
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:29:10 -0200
Subject: [Baren 23674] Re: poems and woodblock
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HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
>What about leaving the option open for "Lefties Can Carve and So Can Righties.?
>Carol L.



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Message 11
From: ArtfulCarol # aol.com
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:35:30 EST
Subject: [Baren 23675] Re: poems and woodblock
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Couldn't resist this one-
I am left- handed and right- footed -What is that called?

To keep this on a woodblock topic here is a line composition using the word
KNOW-part of a series about the corruption of the Engllish Language--"Ya Know"

www.rst-art.com/carolw01.htm

Composed in a square,one board, overprinted and rotated with 4 colors .

"Like", "She Goes.."
Cut, Print
Carol L.

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Message 12
From: David Bull
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:24:43 +0900
Subject: [Baren 23676] Re: poems and woodblock
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Bette wrote:
> Dave or anyone....do you generally splice in a piece of quality wood
> just for the lettering? Any other fineline lettering tips to offer?
> Do you
> use special magnifying glasses for your lettering?

Well, rather than go off on another (too) long post, how about this time
if I just put a link that should answer all those questions!

Go here:
http://www.woodblock.com/surimono/process.html
... and follow the first sequence, the one showing a Gakutei print being
made ...

Dave

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Message 13
From: "Emma Jane Hogbin"
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:45:37 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Baren 23677] cleanup
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Hi,

I'm just working on my first set of wood engravings. I've emailed this
same question to the WEN listserv, apologies if you've already read it. I
am, of course, looking for an /instant/ reply to my question. :)

After printing, I know I need to clean up the obvious stuff (like the
roller and the sheet of glass I rolled the ink onto), but what do I do
with the block? If I have applied too much ink on one of the prints, do I
need to worry about the ink drying in grooves I've made in the woodblock?
If it makes a difference, I'm using speedball ink (no comments on quality,
please) which is water based, so I can always cleanup later if need be...

thanks,
emma


--
Emma Jane Hogbin
Xtrinsic

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Message 14
From: FurryPressII # aol.com
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:47:29 EST
Subject: [Baren 23678] Re: poems and woodblock
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For lettering i like to use maple it does not splinter and you can cut as
small a font as you want.

john

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Message 15
From: Julio.Rodriguez # walgreens.com
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:51:51 -0600
Subject: [Baren 23679] Re: cleanup
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Instant answer ? Only on barenforum.org ! ;-)

Ok, I normally don't do anything to my blocks when using water based
pigments, but I suppose if you want to clean them after you are done
with your print run, keep taking impressions on scrap paper or newspapers
or something like that , till no further ink comes off the block.

Julio Rodriguez (Skokie, Illinois.....Calendar capital of the World !)

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Message 16
From: FurryPressII # aol.com
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:46:33 EST
Subject: [Baren 23680] Re: cleanup
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speedball is water based but after it is dry it is not like watercolor which
remains water soluble when it is dry. Once it is dry it is dry. And
because wood engraving marks are generelly smaller than wood cut ones it might fill
up the cuts. to prevent this you should use a stiffer ink and aply it in thin
layers.

john

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Message 17
From: Ray Hudson
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:06:37 -0500
Subject: [Baren 23681] cleaning blocks
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Perhaps I misunderstood before hitting the delete button. I scrub my
blocks with a soft natural fiber brush and running water to clean the
ink out of the grooves. Then quickly DRY the block with a towel. Back
in my oil days I would rub the block like crazy with rags until it
glowed and then take a small amount of kerosene and do it all again.
Ray Hudson
Middlebury Vermont

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Message 18
From: Frank Trueba
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:04:03 -0800
Subject: [Baren 23682] Re: cleanup
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Hi,

As Julio pointed out, you can always keep making impressions
until no more ink comes off and then you're pretty much clean.
I sometimes wash the block with water and run a toothbrush over
the surfaces were I might have area that might accumulate ink--just
lightly--to clean out grooves or furrows. Then, I blot dry with paper
towels and let air dry.

frank

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Message 19
From: Cucamongie # aol.com
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 21:04:44 -0500
Subject: [Baren 23683] zinc, woodblock etc
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Hi folks, this has been interesting reading, and please excuse me if this subject has already been covered and I missed it.
Are these Yoshida prints which were made with zinc keyblocks still referred to as "woodblock prints"? If so, does the buyer receive any indication of the zinc keyblocks?
thank you.
Sarah

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Message 20
From: "Maria Arango"
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:47:23 -0800
Subject: [Baren 23684] slicing wood?
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In my quest for new and exciting things (shunga exchange
notwithstanding), I have been toying with carving blocks in wood species
other than cherry and maple. Why? You ask?
Well, as most of you know (insert yawns here) I sell my blocks after
cancelling them, once the editon of prints is pulled of course. To make
my show pieces a bit more exciting, I recently acquired some small
blocks of bubinga (bright orange wood, dark brown grain striations),
padouk (rich brown with tight varied grain) and curly purple heart
(purple with curly grain, duh). Those beautiful woods already have
landscapes and figures in them! All I have to do is carve. The resulting
blocks are to die for.

Okay, so moving forward, a few days ago I saw an advert in a festival
magazine; some wood carver was going out of business and wants to get
rid of his wood. Long story medium, I drove 264 miles to check it out;
his descriptions seemed pretty enticing...OH MY GOSH, THE MOTHERLOAD!!!!

I am now 265 miles back home (why does going and coming mileage never
match?) and in posession of more wood than I will ever use. But who
cares. I'm getting to my question, in a sec. The load of exotic woods,
all hardwoods, includes samoan teak, grapefruit, mohagony, brazilian
walnut, butternut, zebra wood, purple heart, tulip, honduran rosewood
and some striated maple, standard cherry, albino oak (white as snow,
never heard of it) and an assortment of smaller pieces, including some
lemon and pear slices. Drooling, John C.?

My delightful problem and thus my question, is that most of these are in
hunks of 2 to 3 inches (5 x 7.6 cm), pieces 6" to 12" x 24" (15 to 30 x
60 cm), some as long as 6 foot (183 cm). The question, how do I slice,
aka rip a hunk of 3" (7.6 cm) thick very-hard-dense-woods into 1/2"
(1.25 cm) boards? A band saw would do some of these, but not the 12"
wide hunks; I would need an industrial band saw. Any other type of power
tools that would work? Any type of Japanese or other hand-powered saw
that will slice through these in a straight manner? Should I hire one of
those guys from the Lumberjack Olympics? How did/do the Japanese rip
their cherry?

Any slicing suggestions greatly appreciated!
Maria


Maria Arango
maria@mariarango.com
Las Vegas Nevada USA
http://www.1000woodcuts.com

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