Baren Digest Tuesday, 28 October 2003 Volume 25 : Number 2422 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Myron Turner Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 07:09:50 -0600 Subject: [Baren 23226] Re: Printers in need of a press. you wrote: > Given that the proofing press is solid iron i could build the hight >of the bed so as to be able to print an small etching on it. If I put >etching blankets on top of a small copper plate i am sure it would have >enough pressure to print. > >john center I'm not sure I'd risk that--you might end up putting the cylinder out of alignment or even breaking something in the gear mechanism. It's been a long time since I printed letterpress, but I ran a small print shop for 5 years in the early 70's where we had a large Vandercook 325G (self-inking); and if we put something on the press bed that was too high, the cylinder jumped. I wonder if that slack is built in so that too much pressure doesn't damage the press. I could be wrong, but I'd be careful. Myron ------------------------------ From: "Elizabeth B. Atwood" Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:14:17 -0500 Subject: [Baren 23227] Re: Baren Digest V25 #2421 Charles Morgan........... Your list of press options was very interesting. What is a bottle jack press??? I'd like to hear more about it. I am left with a book press now...after selling my etching press....but still do most with a baren. ........ElizA ------------------------------ From: b.patera#att.net Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:04:16 +0000 Subject: [Baren 23228] Re: Self Portrait exchange The joint Printmaking Links, Print Australia, Baren Self Portrait exchange is full. Many thanks to Josephine Severn..at PA and to those on the Baren Council for making this exchange possible. Regards, Barbara Patera ------------------------------ From: GraphChem#aol.com Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:39:35 EST Subject: [Baren 23229] Re: Printers in need of a press. Anyone who is interested in a press catalog, submit name and address to sales#printmakersmachine.com - We'll be happy to send info. Also, go to the Middle Tennessee University's printmaking website - frequently, people post requests there. Susan ------------------------------ From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:12:39 -0600 Subject: [Baren 23230] Re: calendar 2004 - update, new print arrivals... Certainly getting down to the wire here with all this calendar stuff....just a few prints still out...big thanks all particpants and specially to those stepping up an taking last minute assignments to fill in for dropouts. I had to break down the postcard calendars into two distinct sets: Calendar A and Calendar B....that way in case somebody wants to purchase a calendar that includes a print from from a specific artist/member we can be sure that they get what they want. Please check the web page to see which postcard calendar you are in, months to be assigned by the project coordinator ;-) New prints arrivals from Wanda Robertson....look in the Landscape and postcard sections...also her wonderful Shunga sheep print 'Hilltop Pasture'....oops...sorry Wanda...I mean.....Page calendar print !!!!! thanks and please stay tune for more info soon....Julio Rodriguez (Skokie, Illinois) ------------------------------ From: FurryPressII#aol.com Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:19:52 EST Subject: [Baren 23231] Re: Printers in need of a press. A non inking vandercook is not as delicate as the self inking models mine is just two sets of inter locking steel teeth. We are not talking massive etching plates maybe 4" by 6" inches or in that area. I have embossed paper with the amount of pressure you would need to print a small etching. My $1200 etching press only prints a 8" by 10" print I have printed paper litho's on it as well but those don't need much pressure. The question would be if you had all the space and money you would have 4 presses because each type is better for each kind of printing. litho, etching, proofing and a c. & p press But if you are on a budget and or limited space a sign card press might be all you would need for printing small blocks When I was in grad school we had 5 different kinds of press (two were not for printing). Washington press, c & p presses and vandercooks in the letterpress dept, Nipping or binders press in the bindery, and a hydraulic press in the paper making dept. Even then when the work got bigger I had to go to a fine arts work shop to print a large wood cut on an etching press. Anchor graphics in Chicago has an etching press with a 6' by 12' bed. That size of bed would allow a matrix of 5' by 10' which is not within my abilities of transport among other things. I did see a wood cut of a whale that was huge I think it was life size I have no idea how it was done except maybe pieced together plywood and printed with a steam roller. There seems to be many different ways to skin the print making cat none of which are correct for every one. john center ------------------------------ From: "Gilda Zimmerling" Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:46:58 -0800 Subject: [Baren 23232] Exchange 18 update Hey everyone, less then a week left. Here is an up date of those prints I have received. Philip Smith Lynita Shimizu Michelle Morrell Charles McNeely Sarah Hauser Marilynn Smith Kate Courchaine Robert Canaga Jan Telfer Gillyin Gatto Nancy Osadchuk Thanks and Keep them coming, Gilda ------------------------------ From: Wanda Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:44:49 -0800 Subject: [Baren 23233] Re: calendar 2004 - update, new print arrivals... Huh? Did I send you the wrong print? That romantic ram & ewe print? :-) Thanks, Julio, for the massive job you are doing on this big project. If nothing else, we will know what *not* to do next time, huh? Wanda Julio.Rodriguez wrote: > >New prints arrivals from Wanda Robertson....look in the Landscape and >postcard sections...also her wonderful >Shunga sheep print 'Hilltop Pasture'....oops...sorry Wanda...I >mean.....Page calendar print !!!!! > ------------------------------ From: Myron Turner Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:56:25 -0600 Subject: [Baren 23234] Re: Printers in need of a press. you wrote: >I did see a wood cut of a whale that was huge I think it was life size I >have no idea how it was done except maybe pieced together plywood and >printed with a steam roller. >john center I believe I have read of such surreal goings on. Myron ------------------------------ From: "Maria Arango" Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:24:35 -0800 Subject: [Baren 23235] Re: whale print It's easy, just ink the whale, grab it by the tail, swing over your head and SLAM-O!!! right on the paper. Repeat as many as needed for the edition. Popeye you wrote: >I did see a wood cut of a whale that was huge I think it was life size I >have no idea how it was done except maybe pieced together plywood and >printed with a steam roller. >john center > > >I believe I have read of such surreal goings on. > >Myron ------------------------------ From: FurryPressII#aol.com Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:48:36 EST Subject: [Baren 23236] whale ROFLMAO HEHEHE ------------------------------ From: Myron Turner Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:55:16 -0600 Subject: [Baren 23237] Re: whale print Ah, I knew there was a woman among us who could lift up the 75 pounds dead weight of the book press! Awestruck! ------------------------------ From: Charles Morgan Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:28:35 -0800 Subject: [Baren 23238] Re: whale print Yeah ... you use the book press to bonk the whale so it will lie still during the inking process ..... you wrote: >Ah, >I knew there was a woman among us who could lift up the 75 pounds dead >weight of the book press! > >Awestruck! > > you wrote: >It's easy, just ink the whale, grab it by the tail, swing over your head >and SLAM-O!!! right on the paper. Repeat as many as needed for the >edition. > >Popeye > > you wrote: > >I did see a wood cut of a whale that was huge I think it was life size I >have no idea how it was done except maybe pieced together plywood and >printed with a steam roller. >john center > > >I believe I have read of such surreal goings on. > >Myron ------------------------------ From: Aqua4tis#aol.com Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:40:04 EST Subject: [Baren 23239] Re: whale print and sheep lolol slamo????? you are a woman of many talents maria :-) i finally went to the post office and mailed the rest of my sheep prints i applogize for the delay and i will try to be more prompt with the next "year of" prints georga ------------------------------ From: L Cass Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:58:27 -0500 Subject: [Baren 23240] Re: trip information wanted? John - I imagine you may already know or John Furr will tell you that there are some wonderful modern Japanese woodcuts (Nakao Matsubara) at the ROM in Toronto -also I guess the Open Studio would be a place to visit and theJapanese Paper Place Warehouse usually shows prints - if anyone is in TO (apart from Ms Hogbin) My show at the Rebecca Gallery (which will include a series of recent wild woodcuts of the still life ptgs and other subjects etc) opens on Sat Nov 22 (reception 3-6 p.m.) and runs 'til Dec 25) The Gallery is at 317 Grace St at Harbord. By the way to add a comment re presses - Falkiners (the paper people in London, U.K.) had a floor full of inexpensive Nipping presses - I tried to pick up one of the smaller ones hoping to have it as carry-on baggage to bring home but no luck!!! [I'm joking of course but I did covet them altho' their sizes do limit what you can print] - I must say that when I experimented with all the different presses at Poole Printmakers this summer (not having been near a press since my student days) the beautiful new relief/etching/lithography press printed blocks and plates of all dimensions and thicknesses so effortlessly - obviously if one had the space and $$'s an etching press would take care of all one's needs. The old Albion there was good but I didn't have the strength to bring the impression lever all the way down. The various Bookbinding or Nipping pressses there were'nt too great for thick blocks and many users had to do some additional hand burnishing. One embarassing question to ask - is there anything which will remove pencil marks from the good Japanese papers as all types of erasers remove the paper as well -(I know one shouldn't allow pencils to mar the paper but sometimes for various reasons they're there) regards and happy printing to all (wish I'd had time for the Shunga exchange but I look forward to seeing the prints and the calendars soon. I hope) Louise Cass www.LCassArt.com ------------------------------ From: Emma Jane Hogbin Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 20:26:26 -0500 Subject: [Baren 23241] Re: trip information wanted? >On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 07:58:27PM -0500, L Cass wrote: >One embarassing question to ask - is there anything which will remove >pencil marks from the good Japanese papers as all types of erasers >remove the paper as well -(I know one shouldn't allow pencils to mar the >paper but sometimes for various reasons they're there) In all of the books I've read on restoring books, they've suggested a pink pearl eraser. I personally don't like them as when they get old they can stain the paper and make things a lot worse than when you started. I prefer the gray blobs of eraser goo you can get for drawing. Instead of rubbing the page you knead the eraser goo and then press it onto the page. It's almost like silly putty, except it's completely different. Maybe someone else knows the name of it? emma - -- Emma Jane Hogbin ------------------------------ From: "Brad Teare" Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:30:45 -0700 Subject: [Baren 23242] erasers A kneaded eraser is the grey, kneadable eraser you use to erase smudges. I prefer an art gum eraser to remove pencil marks off delicate papers, though. ------------------------------ From: "MPereira" Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 20:38:49 -0200 Subject: [Baren 23243] Re: Self Portrait exchange Hi, Barbara Patera, your print on Exchange 16 was wonderful. In the slide show, you come before me, so, I think that your B&W strong figure makes an introduction to mine that is also a B&W print. Now this, what is this Self portrait exchange that I had never heard? I love self portrait. I want to participate too. Please tell me something. Murilo in Floripa. >The joint Printmaking Links, Print Australia, Baren Self Portrait exchange >is >full. Many thanks to Josephine Severn..at PA and to those on the Baren >Council for making this exchange possible. > >Regards, >Barbara Patera ------------------------------ From: "Maria Arango" Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:09:19 -0800 Subject: [Baren 23244] Re: whale print >Yeah ... you use the book press to bonk the whale so it will >lie still >during the inking process ..... > >At 04:55 PM 10/27/03 -0600, you wrote: >Ah, >I knew there was a woman among us who could lift up the 75 >pounds dead >weight of the book press! > >Awestruck! Well, truth be told, I do have a book press--picked up an antique cast iron for cheap because it had been repainted. But it only weighs a mere 72 lbs., so I can easily pick it up (certainly weighs much less than my tent poles). And on a more serious note, I have printed wood engravings with it (main reason I bought it) and Charles is right on the money on the how to's. I tend to use soft blotters or matboard scraps instead of felt to accommodate uneven blocks and get even prints, but it beats the spoon by a mile and there is no shifting of paper as there sometimes is when printing with an etching press...and yes, that is also the correct method of using such press in "whale printing." Also, for those using an etching press to print woodcuts/wood engravings, go to the Barenforum.org encyclopedia and be sure to follow Ruth Leaf's recommendations on how to set up your press for painless relief (pun alert!) printing. Maria ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V25 #2422 *****************************