Baren Digest Tuesday, 19 August 2003 Volume 24 : Number 2346 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lezle Williams Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 06:56:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Baren 22581] Re: Baren Digest V24 #2345 Dear Bobbette, John, and Bareners, Thanks for the tips. I realized (too late) that I should have been adding to the extender instead of the other way around. I didn't realize that one could dilute the ink so much. I also tried the wire brush and that helped, but seemed to bring up the coarseness of the wood, instead of the swirly-ness of the grain that I was after. I will order more base tomorrow... And Barbara, things are going well - busy here as usual. I am doing the local art fair thing on the weekends and next year I aim to travel more to the bigger shows in the SW area. I recently won a local competition with one of my woodcuts and got a $1000 purchase award - which was a surprise because I almost didn't even enter it because I was unhappy with the print and didn't want to "throw away" the $20 entry fee! The corporation that sponsored the competition wants to buy more of my work for their collection. And I am starting to give some woodcut and wood engraving workshops at my studio. So things are rolling along. Dear Tyrus, I believe the wood I was birch plywood. But, it seemed to be a lot different quality than the birch that I have used before, so I am not sure... I remember ask some time ago you before how you got your effects. What sort of base did you say that you use? Also, where do most of you get your woods? My sources so far have been McClain's for the shina and Home Depot for the birch plywood. They don't seem to have any other choices. thanks, Lezle P.S. The guest house is open to Bareners who want to visit New Mexico... http://www.laughingcrow.org/guesthouse.html >>Subject: [Baren 22579] Re: a question for the oily printmakers > >This all depends on what effect you want. Some of the hard woods (like >oak) are going to give off that open grain look. > ===== Lezle Williams Laughing Crow Studio http://www.laughingcrow.org ------------------------------ From: "Brad Teare" Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:27:46 -0600 Subject: [Baren 22582] Oil transparency Lezle, I would like to be able to print a layer so thin it would be analogous to glazing in oil color. So far the best I can come up with has been to use Daniel Smith litho transparent base (it's stiffer than relief transparent base). I have some Graphic Chemical transparent base coming. The Gablin Transparent base sound interesting (I definitely like their paint). I will be printing this weekend with the Graphic Chemical base. I will let you know how it goes. Let me know how yur experiements go. This is definitely a problem I need to slove. ------------------------------ From: "Brad Teare" Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:49:03 -0600 Subject: [Baren 22583] Oil prints I used the suggestions you gave me for getting more layers to print smoothly using litho inks and/or magnesium carbonate. I printed an eight color, seven block print this weekend and had great success. Seven blocks was my personal "4 minute mile". I now feel I could print 14 blocks successfully. Many thanks to all who e-mailed suggestions. (PS- Sorry my spelling was so bad last message. I will definitely start using my spell checker!). ------------------------------ From: ArtfulCarol#aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 11:55:12 EDT Subject: [Baren 22584] 7 Woodcuts Hi, These are the 7 woodblocks that were shown at the Manhattan Borough President's Office. They are very different from what I usually do. My group, called Working Artists ,exhibited there because we all studied art in NY. at some time. www.rst-art.com/carolbiblical.htm Carol Lyons Irvington, NY ------------------------------ From: Aqua4tis#aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 12:05:57 EDT Subject: [Baren 22585] Re: 7 Woodcuts >www.rst-art.com/carolbiblical.htm carol congrats!!! i love these prints is that hebrew writing above them? if so can you tell me were to find information on the hebrew alphabet? thanks georga ------------------------------ From: Barbara Mason Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:14:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Baren 22586] Re: Oil transparency Brad. I do this all the time..I make a mixture of setswell and transparent base, about half and half. Then I add ink to get the color I want. If it needs to be more transparent, I add more transparent base but not more setswell. Roll it out very thinly, that is spend time get getting a thin layer of ink on the roller. Start with a small strip and keep rolling it until it is all over the roller. If your roller is not larger than the block, it will be harder to do, you have to roll from the center out with a small roller and keep adding small amounts of ink. You can get it very thin and transparent...be patient. This is your print after all, it could take 5 minutes to really ink it thinly and evenly with a small roller, one pass with a large one. I use graphic chemical transparent base, I think it is CS800 but I can check in the studio to see the number. I have used both graphic's own brand and the handschy brand and both work well. If you are printing with a press you shold be able to get a good impression with a very thin layer of ink. Are you using a roller press or a platen press? Best to you, Barbara >Brad Teare wrote: Lezle, > >I would like to be able to print a layer so thin it would be analogous >to glazing in oil color. So far the best I can come up with has been to >use Daniel Smith litho transparent base (it's stiffer than relief >transparent base). I have some Graphic Chemical transparent base coming. >The Gablin Transparent base sound interesting (I definitely like their >paint). I will be printing this weekend with the Graphic Chemical base. >I will let you know how it goes. Let me know how yur experiements go. >This is definitely a problem I need to slove. > ------------------------------ From: "Brad Teare" Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 10:29:06 -0600 Subject: [Baren 22587] Oil Transparency Good ideas Barbara. I'm getting a can of Sureset compound this week from Graphic Chemical(is that comparable to Setswell?) and some dullit compound (I've been getting a bit of a sheen with the transparency base.) I use a roller type Challenger proof press. ------------------------------ From: "Robert Canaga" Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:38:00 -0700 Subject: [Baren 22588] Re: Oil transparency c Ever try printing through silk? >I would like to be able to print a layer so thin it would be analogous to >glazing in oil color. So far the best I can come up with has been to use >Daniel Smith litho transparent base (it's stiffer than relief transparent >base). I have some Graphic Chemical transparent base coming. The Gablin >Transparent base sound interesting (I definitely like their paint). I will >be printing this weekend with the Graphic Chemical base. I will let you know >how it goes. Let me know how yur experiements go. This is definitely a >problem I need to slove. ------------------------------ From: "Brad Teare" Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 10:48:08 -0600 Subject: [Baren 22589] Oil Transparency I've never printed through silk or any other cloth. Sounds intriguing though. Anything I need to know besides the obvious? ------------------------------ From: "Robert Canaga" Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 10:26:37 -0700 Subject: [Baren 22590] Re: Oil Transparency Nah, just get three or four different types of silk scrap from the fabric store and play. I like to cut shapes and effect areas specifically to half or quarter tone the ink so that it reacts differently with the next color. You might try rayon or other cloths but silk absorbs at about the right rate to give you a nice transparency you can very without mixing a lot of different inks. RC ------------------------------ From: GWohlken Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 13:22:53 -0400 Subject: [Baren 22591] postcard sized calendar prints Does anyone know what size packaging we are to do for the postcard calendar prints? From what I read on the web page, we might receive a disassembled calendar and that the size is 7 x 7 inches (for the sheet the post card size calendar print would be affixed to). I also read on the web page that we will be putting these in some kind of stand. Are these coming with the prints we receive, or do we purchase this on our own somewhere? If it comes with the prints, how much extra do we put in with the postage to cover the cost. And if the stands are coming with the calendar pages, we need to know how deep they are so we send the prints in a box sized correctly . Also, I notice the number of prints for the postcard size still says 35, but I understood we were to send 45. Am I asking a lot of stupid questions :-) Thanks, Gayle/Ohio ------------------------------ From: Myron Turner Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 17:00:59 -0500 Subject: [Baren 22592] Re: Web Site Carol, Your Deuteronomy series is just beautiful--elegant. I showed them to my wife, she wants to know how big they are. Myron you wrote: >In a message dated 8/16/2003 8:24:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, >mturner#Ms.UManitoba.CA writes: > > >http://www.room535.org/woodblocks/ > > >Myron,WOW! Interesting and amazing----my words are cliche, but your work >is over the top. >And to think that we went to the same school and took the NY Subway as in >your print 7th Ave.Local-South Ferry. Also I very much liked the 3 >different approaches in that one print > >Congratulations on your Website > >Carol L. >CCNY!!!. ------------------------------ From: "Tyrus Clutter" Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 18:19:37 -0600 Subject: [Baren 22593] Re: Baren Digest V24 #2345 I use Graphic extender and I have always purchased my poplar planks at Home Depot. >Dear Tyrus, > >I believe the wood I was birch plywood. But, it seemed to be a lot >different quality than the birch that I have used before, so I am not >sure... I remember ask some time ago you before how you got your >effects. >What sort of base did you say that you use? > >Also, where do most of you get your woods? My sources so far have been >McClain's for the shina and Home Depot for the birch plywood. They >don't >seem to have any other choices. > >thanks, > >Lezle ------------------------------ From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 00:34:32 -0500 Subject: [Baren 22594] Re: postcard sized calendar prints Forgot....45 is the number of prints we need for the postcard exchange....all other formats (Nudes, Landscape and Page) only require 40 prints per participant. Website needs updating so disregard that page for now. thanks again...feel free to ask any questions or concerns.......Julio ------------------------------ From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 00:31:20 -0500 Subject: [Baren 22595] Re: postcard sized calendar prints Hi Gayle...good questions all....don't worry about the packaging for sending/returning prints...the calendar coordinator (that's me !) will take care of boxing/shipping the calendars...they will all go out in one standard box size so don't include a return box. Just send enough $ for return postage to cover the US post office small box fee....I think $5-6 should cover it...if you are outside the US, then send an equal amount to what it cost you to send me your print package. We are working on a desktop display stand design for the Postcard calendar prints..it will hold all 12 pages for the calendar plus a cover sheet....I should know soon if it will be available and included as part of the package you receive or not...it's a design we hope to be able to use for other projects.... For those of you holding off mailing your prints...I will be back home from vacation on 8/25...so feel free to ship anytime after 8/23 or so.....for those carving and printing away....9/15 is the agreed deadline for sending off the prints...while we have some time for late arrivals...remember..unlike exchanges...father time waits for no one !!!! prints must be received, calendars need to be assembled and mailed back and we need to sell the remaining stock by no later than October 31st or abouts....would like to have this project wrap up by that date....so we can all be looking forward to printing New Year cards for the Year of the Monkey.. Please, do remember to send some return money with your prints.... thanks...Julio Rodriguez (Skokie, Illinois) ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V24 #2346 *****************************