Baren Digest               Friday, 8 August 2003       Volume 24 : Number 2334


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From: G Wohlken <blueman#pantek.com>
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 10:26:50 -0400
Subject: [Baren 22491] Carving and setswell and prints and starch 

I appreciate people's answers to my question regarding carving tools, 
setswell, etc.

Philip asked for a better description of that odd sharpening process I 
witnessed.
The woman picked up the ceramic sharpening stone and held it in her 
hand.  With the other hand she picked up the tool she wanted to sharpen 
and (instead of sharpening with the stone flat on the table) she 
sharpened in midair.  She moved the stone  circularly against the 
cutting edges of the tool.  If the tool was a gouge, she slightly turned 
it when she got to the curves at the sides of it, but it was her hand 
that was holding  the stone that did all the work.  She then took out of 
a pouch a ceramic tubeshaped stone and with one light easy swipe, took 
off the thin piece of metal on the other side of the cutting edge.  I 
hope I explained that so you can understand.  It's easier to see it than 
explain it.

John Center, you said you use v gouges for cutting your lines.  Do you 
have any good ways to sharpen these?  I tried it with a thin card 
covered with honing compound (for the inside edge where the v is located 
and that seemed to work fairly well.  What do you do?

Also John I am grateful for the tip you gave about cutting with the v, 
which is to "stitch" the line by going over it in small increments.  I 
can't wait to try it!!


> When you use a "v" to make a straight line you don't do it the same way as a 
>knife.  A little know wood engraving trick is to only cut a small amount of 
>the line at a time and go back over it again called stitching by wood engravers. 
> If you try to cut the line all at once it will more than likely not be 
>streight.
>
>  >

    Mike and Dave, you guys are such hot doggers when it comes to carving 
and printing! :-)  Gorgeous work!

Paul you mentioned adding starch to ink.  Are you speaking of adding it 
dry?  You wouldn't add it as rice paste or wheat paste as that wouldn't 
work because oil and water don't mix, right?

Gayle


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From: Charles Morgan <cmorgan#uvic.ca>
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 07:47:56 -0700
Subject: [Baren 22492] Re: Emailing: Shortcut to SelfPortrait flyer


Hmmm .... I got an error message saying "Access denied"

Cheers .... Charles

At 10:21 PM 8/6/03 -0700, you wrote:

>Take a look and pass it on!
>Robert
>Your files are attached and ready to send with this message.



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From: James G Mundie <jimandkatemundie#juno.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 11:17:34 -0400
Subject: [Baren 22493] More news about James Mundie's "Prodigies" 

Sorry to be bothering you again so soon with a non-woodblock post, but I
just wanted to let you know that my work is to be seen in this week's
edition of the LA Weekly, where I am the featured artist in their PULPit
section.   You can take a peek here:
http://www.laweekly.com/ink/03/38/pulpit-mundie.php.

Also, please don't fail to check out my new "Prodigies" website recently
re-designed by madametalbot.com at
http://www.missioncreep.com/mundie/images/index.htm.

Kate and I are off to spend ten days on Cape Cod, where she intends to
paint, and I'll be working on some new woodcuts.

Best regards,
James Mundie 

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From: "Jeanne N. Chase" <studiojnc#prodigy.net>
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 11:54:08 -0400
Subject: [Baren 22494] Re: More news about James Mundie's "Prodigies" 

Congratulation James, great article!!!
love to hear about all the successes of our group. 

Jeanne N.


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From: "Robert Canaga" <rcg#robertcanagagallery.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 09:17:48 -0700
Subject: [Baren 22495] Re: Emailing: Shortcut to SelfPortrait flyer 

Charles, If you go to my website  http://robertcanagagallery.com the 
info is up on the left side. Thanks
Robert
 


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From: Chromoxylo#aol.com
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 12:51:52 EDT
Subject: [Baren 22496] Re: Carving and setswell and prints and starch 


Hi Gayle,
You answered your own question correctly. Dry starch.

Paul Ritscher


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From: Charles Morgan <cmorgan#uvic.ca>
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 10:25:10 -0700
Subject: [Baren 22497] banned art 

Some of you might find this interesting:

(Archivist's note:  Link has been deleted due to politically volatile subject matter
See several posts below)


Cheers ....... Charles

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From: Sharri LaPierre <Barebonesart#comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 13:40:20 -0700
Subject: [Baren 22498] Re: Baren Digest V24 #2333 

Paul,
It sounds like you are talking about commercial printing inks which may 
react differently than etching or litho ink.  We have all been taught 
for eons that cal. or mag. carbonate will stiffen those two inks.  From 
experience, it works!  I haven't personally ever heard of adding any 
kind of starch, but that doesn't mean it won't work, too.  As for 
adding anything to block printing inks, I wouldn't know since I never 
use them.

Sharri


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From: FurryPressII#aol.com
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 18:30:14 EDT
Subject: [Baren 22499] Re: banned art 



political posts are deleted if conservative       so this one should be 
deleated as well

this link is offensive

john center


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From: FurryPressII#aol.com
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 18:39:58 EDT
Subject: [Baren 22500] Re: Carving and setswell and prints and starch 



Sharpening "v" are not that different from sharpening a knife.  You just have 
to be more careful so that you sharpen it evenly on both sides of the "v."  
With the "u" you just have to keep the angle correct but try not to keep it in 
one spot.  Trying to keep it even through the whole tool.   
A larger "u" you can use a slip stone to take off the burr with smaller tools 
you can push the tool into hard wood that should take out the burr.

I don't try to over think the process     20 years as a butcher it sort of 
becomes second nature.

john center


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From: Charles Morgan <cmorgan#uvic.ca>
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 19:10:03 -0700
Subject: [Baren 22501] Re: banned art 

Tsk, Tsk, John.

It is a story about censorship of art, which is clearly of concern to all 
of us. It concerns playing cards, and Baren is involved in a playing card 
exchange at the moment. It concerns Ebay policy with respect to the sale of 
art works. In concerns lino block prints, which are included under the 
Baren mandate. It is NOT a political post.

Cheers ..... Charles

At 06:30 PM 8/7/03 -0400, you wrote:

>political posts are deleted if conservative       so this one should be 
>deleated as well
>
>this link is offensive
>
>john center




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From: Bette Wappner <bettewappner#earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 23:16:06 -0400
Subject: [Baren 22503] Re: banned art 




Please take your differences off-list.    Thank you.


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From: "hey you" <stoogiesaid#hotmail.com>
Reply-To: baren#ml.asahi-net.or.jp
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 22:21:24 -0400
To: baren#ml.asahi-net.or.jp
Subject: [Baren 22502] Re: banned art


Well said Charles. 

Cheers...  Paul Hamilton


>From: Charles Morgan
>Reply-To: baren#ml.asahi-net.or.jp
>To: baren#ml.asahi-net.or.jp
>Subject: [Baren 22501] Re: banned art
>Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 19:10:03 -0700
> 
>Tsk, Tsk, John. 
> 
>It is a story about censorship of art, which is clearly of concern
>to all of us. It concerns playing cards, and Baren is involved in a
>playing card exchange at the moment. It concerns Ebay policy with
>respect to the sale of art works. In concerns lino block prints,
>which are included under the Baren mandate. It is NOT a political
>post. 
> 
>Cheers ..... Charles
> 
>At 06:30 PM 8/7/03 -0400, you wrote:

>>political posts are deleted if conservative so this one
>>should be deleated as well
>> 
>>this link is offensive
>> 
>>john center 




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From: FurryPressII#aol.com
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 07:13:26 EDT
Subject: [Baren 22504] Re: banned art 


What is fair for the goose is fair for the gander        the link was 
political      
I would have said my original post was historical in nature and not political 
but it was deleted as being political. If only pol. correct political links 
and posts are acceptable than I would call it hypocritical and biased.

john




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