Baren Digest Tuesday, 1 July 2003 Volume 24 : Number 2284 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Barbara Mason Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Baren 22017] Re: Exchange 18 This is a good idea, I vote for a nice small one, maybe the 5x5" paper we had one time with the print being somewhere in there, maybe 3x3" What was the actual size? Mike, can you look it up for us????? My memory is real good but very short. Best to all, Barbara Frank Trueba wrote:> >Hi folks, > >Don't know if anyone noticed, but the Exchange 18 sign up is >supposed to begin tomorrow, July 1st. >being small (for example an image of 3" x 3" on paper 6" x 8" or some> >such thing).> > Anything further on this front? I'm certainly interested in a "small" >exchange.> > frank> ------------------------------ From: Mike Lyon Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 17:28:52 -0500 Subject: [Baren 22018] SMALL Exchange 18 SIGN-UP begins JULY 1 !!! Oh -- my -- GOSH !!! I am SOOOOoooo sorry for having forgotten all about this deadline! Frank -- thank you for reminding me! Sign-up for #18 ("small" exchange) begins 3:00 p.m. tomorrow, July 1st (GMT) at http://www.barenforum.org/exchange/exchange_sign-up.html How do you all like this: chuban paper size (10" x 7.5" so it'll fit in one of our standard-size cases) with an image area of 8 square inches in any combination of height x width which will fit on the paper (8" x 1", 6" x 1 1/3", 4" x 2", 2.8" x 2.8", etc)... or, for you metric-types: chuban paper size (25.4 cm x 19 cm) so it'll fit in one of our standard-size cases) with an image area of 50 square centimeters in any combination of height x width which will fit on the paper (20 cm x 2.5 cm, 17 cm x 3 cm, 7.2 cm x 7.2 cm, etc.)... Apologies again -- everyone may sign-up tomorrow, but as usual, #17 participants will take a 'back seat' for the first week of sign-up... Thank you again for the wake-up call, Frank! - -- Mike At 02:33 PM 6/30/2003 -0700, you wrote: >Hi folks, > >Don't know if anyone noticed, but the Exchange 18 sign up is >supposed to begin tomorrow, July 1st. > >We had discussed doing a very small exchange (that is, the paper/image) >being small (for example an image of 3" x 3" on paper 6" x 8" or some >such thing). > >Anything further on this front? I'm certainly interested in a "small" >exchange. > >frank > > Mike Lyon mailto:mikelyon#mlyon.com http://www.mlyon.com ------------------------------ From: John and Michelle Morrell Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 16:32:14 -0800 Subject: [Baren 22019] Exchange #18 and Welcome Aimee Aimee-- It was such a surprise to hear that you'd tied in with Carole Baker at the Summit--what a place for two gals from Gustavus meet up! I'll bet there's a story there, as Carole was on her own and alone when she passed thru Juneau on her way to KC. You may remember me from the time you and Carole came to Sitka for one of Dale's workshops at UAS. But maybe not! Anyway, it's good to know yet another Alaskan reads the Baren. Frank Trueba wrote:> > >Don't know if anyone noticed, but the Exchange 18 sign up is >supposed to begin tomorrow, July 1st.> > >We had discussed doing a very small exchange (that is, the paper/image) >being small (for example an image of 3" x 3" on paper 6" x 8" or some >such thing).> > >Anything further on this front? I'm certainly interested in a "small" >exchange.> > frank> > > I've been wondering the same. I could bite on a miniature format exchange> but presently am not really interested in carving a larger size> block.........> ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ Michelle Morrell jmmorrell#gci.net MichelleMorrell.com ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ ------------------------------ From: Aqua4tis#aol.com Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 22:35:32 EDT Subject: [Baren 22020] Re: Exchange #18 and Welcome Aimee i like the idea of a very small sized exchange also (dimension wise) georga ------------------------------ From: "Maria Arango" Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 20:02:44 -0700 Subject: [Baren 22021] Re: Exchange #18 Yes, I concur, a small exchange, perhaps in mm? and only two or three people...ready...set...sign up!!! just kidding, I'm giddy, it's the heat...I'm warning everyone right now! Regarding our oily-watery debate...gosh, I love to hear about moku-hanga. When I first joined the forum I appreciated every word of wisdom from the membership on the water-based stuff. Then somehow it stopped. In my view this was not a "take over" by the oily folk, simply, someone would ask a question and answers would be short or none. So the oily folk started talking to each other...the rest is history. In fact recalling troubles with Exchange 16, I believe I asked several questions and received speculative answers from other oily folk or, GET THIS, OFF-LINE responses from the moku-hanga experts. Why? I thought? why? why? Does moku-hanga make you instantly shy? Having met some of you...heh heh Look, folks, wanna talk about moku-hanga? Let's do it! But let's think for a moment how MUCH not how LITTLE (sorry I don't mean to raise my voice) we have in common! Wood and all its wonderful intriguing variations, how to prepare it, tools...virtually thousands of tools...we haven't even begun to talk about rocks as tools!!! and this from a water-based printmaker...barens and other creative printing instruments, registration, sharpening, paper, transfering designs, etcetera ad nauseum...where do we draw the line? are there lines to be drawn? is transfering a design to a block for oily base printmaking different from transfering a design to a block for moku-hanga? Anyway, I guess I'm beating a dead horse by now but, hey, I've been busy and pondering about much more important and earth shattering things than how to divide barenforum.org. For example, why do they keep making fatter toothbrushes when everyone's ceramic toothbrush holder still has skinny holes? And, really, do we need that big a grip to brush our teeth? has anyone in the forum ever lost their grip on their toothbrush and have it fly across the bathroom? raise your hand, please...a poll is forthcoming...And why doesn't more research go into frame protector corners that don't fall off???? Maria, oily outside but watery inside (or is that the other way around...) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-baren#ml.asahi-net.or.jp [mailto:owner-baren#ml.asahi-net.or.jp]On Behalf Of Aqua4tis#aol.com Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 7:36 PM To: baren#ml.asahi-net.or.jp Subject: [Baren 22020] Re: Exchange #18 and Welcome Aimee >i like the idea of a very small sized exchange also (dimension wise) georga ------------------------------ From: Wanda Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 20:26:45 -0700 Subject: [Baren 22022] message from PrintAlliance This just received from Carol Pulin, director, American Print Alliance: The slide deadline is July 15 for Theater of the Mind, the next travelling exhibit from the American Print Alliance. The prospectus is available on-line: go to www.PrintAlliance.org and follow the click-on path. Thanks! Carol Carol Pulin, director, American Print Alliance non-profit consortium of printmaker's councils 302 Larkspur Turn, Peachtree City, GA 30269 www.PrintAlliance.org, director#printalliance.org ------------------------------ From: Bette Wappner Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 23:44:08 -0400 Subject: [Baren 22023] missin' the muse and thanks to Mike Lyon Hi Mike Lyon and everyone again! Just a note to tell you how much our first Baren Summit sponsored by Mike Lyon in KC, MO meant to me. My first week home has been a combination of happiness and sadness. I jumped right into everyday life the day after with volunteering at our daughter's vacation bible school. What was I thinking? First they stuck me with the 4-yr. olds! Yikes! They were total animals! Then, finally the director let me help out with my daughter in the 4th graders. So...... now I continue to try to keep the house clean and entertain our two kids and their friends for the course of the summer and of course spend time with my wonderful husband! And I'm sure life goes on with you and your families too. I don't know where to start with expressing my gratitute toward you- Mike- for being such a super host. I guess it starts with your building that eminates a sort of creative spirit - even before I got settled in - I felt it - must be that Mike Lyon's creative muse in action. Gayle Wolkein expressed it perfectly for me in her email. The bonding of Baren members, the sounds of art being born, the chatter of spirits interacting, Po the crow upstairs clicking his claws on this roost and feeling the bonding of his spirit with mine while I slept, the sun rising on my face and the moon peering in the fourth window upon my tired, but happy spirit, the crunching of wood shavings beneath my sandles that I now miss, the presentations of our new-found friends sharing from their souls of what means the most to them and now to us, the wonderfully musty aroma of the richest, blackest sumi ink that permeates my mind with the scent of patchuoli, and oh the list goes on and on and on. Mike, thank you, thank you, thank you. I just couldn't resist sharing what I'm feeling with you all right now. And for those who couldn't make it to this Baren Summit; I only hope that my short description helps you to feel like you've been there and hope that we can all be together again. But for now, we are together in spirit and in email! Besides....we wouldn't be together if it wasn't for this ole' internet. Bette Wappner, northern KY - greater Cincinnati, OH area. p.s. I still owe all of you my digital photos. Its on my list!!! ------------------------------ From: Emkaygee#aol.com Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 01:03:56 EDT Subject: [Baren 22024] Re: Baren Digest V23 #2282 Brother and Sisters of the Baren! : ) I know I'm joining the discussion late, but I thought it was important to through in my support (for what it's worth) for a specialized hanga forum. Clearly this is an area with little available information to the average person. David has so generously given of his time, so that artists can delve into image-making possibilities that might have not previously occurred to them, or with other techniques were impossible to achieve. I am increasingly amazed at the range of subtlety of tone and richness of color available in using this technique. While other printing techniques all have their benefits, hanga is truly a rich heritage for printmakers. This forum has been a wonderful treasure trove of information on this water-based printing technique. I hope it continues for many years to come! Mary Weimer Green ------------------------------ From: Barbara Mason Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 23:11:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Baren 22025] to hanga or not to hanga I just came back from beautiful Pacific City where I gave a lecture on printmaking in conjunction with a show of work that Print Arts Northwest is having. I took every kind of print sample with me, but as I could not take the press I took all the stuff to make moku hanga work. People were extremely interested in it and most were unaware that a separate block is needed for each color in most types of printmaking. Everyone had lots of questions and were very impressed after I explained that this was the first baren I had managed to tie successfully in four years of trying. They were especially amazed that we print with shoe brushes...... Pacific City is small and the closest large city (still small) is Lincoln City, 20 miles to the south. Amazingly there were 32 people at the lecture. They charged $3 and the gallery owner's young neice was taking money, so when my husband came in the door, she dutifully charged him. I think it may be the first time a husband has ever paid to hear his wife talk. I admit to being an oily person, but I do think we should encourage moku hanga discussion on the baren. It is so wonderful and if I did it a little more competantly I would be very happy. We process junkie people have trouble giving it the learning curve it needs as we have so many other interests. I am plugging along and if I live long enough, will eventually get better at it. I could answer all your questions, Maria. However, I don't know if the answrs would be right. So there you go, I promise to put my oar into the pot if anyone asks a question. Dave is taking a sabatical, he says he is overwhelmed with work and is going to shut off his computer for a month...bet he can't really do it. It is sort of addictive. I am carving away here and soon #17will be done, almost in time for #18. Best to all, Barbara ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V24 #2284 *****************************