Baren Digest              Thursday, 10 April 2003      Volume 23 : Number 2188


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From: cary_benbow#att.net
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 14:04:11 +0000
Subject: [Baren 21282] eyesight color shift 

Seems I've got the similar "affliction" as others have mentioned. Right eye cool (plus 
astigmatism), left eye warm. (I'm sure everyone by now has squinted at the screen or 
the walls with first one eye, then the other. Rather an interesting mental image, no? 
Hundreds of people independently squinting out their left and right eyes at the same 
time.) 

I've  wondered how this effects the way my brain is processing and interpreting the 
images I work on. If I am looking at a slide through a loupe (with my left/warm eye) I am 
surely getting a different impression or interpretation than someone with different 
"temperature vision". Same goes for looking through a camera - which I do with my 
stronger, warmer eye.  I apply this idea more to photography than printmaking, since 
focusing and taking photos is done with one eye. I like the idea of our brains mixing the 
color between the two eyes... I'll have to make note of my color tendencies in 
printmaking vs. photos from now on to see if I can find a trend.  

If you add the whole left brain vs. right brain thing, then you've got a whole new set of 
problems! 

Cary


Wow is right! I didn't know that anyone else's eyes saw colors differently 
either. My right eye sees blue light and my left eye sees the warm spectrum and 
together.... well I always assumed that I saw colors as they are.... hoping so 
anyway. 

Barbara P

>   My hands are still very steady and I have good motor

> > skills, but my eyes are not that great -- my right eye sees 'cooler' than
> > my left, I'm nearsighted, and I need to use no. 1.75 reading glasses.
> > -- Mike
> > 

> 
> Wow!  I didn't know that anybody else saw colors differently from one eye to
> the other.  My right eye sees warmer ( slightly more yellow) and the left
> eye sees cooler (bluish).  Interesting.
> 
> Cyndy Wilson


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From: "Jeanne N. Chase" <studiojnc#prodigy.net>
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 11:01:28 -0400
Subject: [Baren 21283] Re: Secret Ingredient ? 

Carol

Just a simple dash was left out of my url;

http://www.jeannenormanchase-art.com

who would have known?????

I don't get it, why would anyone mix gin and sumi ink? I missed something
somewhere. What a waste of gin!

Jeanne N.


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From: FurryPressII#aol.com
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 11:36:57 EDT
Subject: [Baren 21284] Re: seeing light differently 

near sighted in one eye and far sighted in one eye     only use one at a time.
john

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From: Wanda <robertson#canby.com>
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 10:59:54 -0700
Subject: [Baren 21285] Re: sumi ink 

I guess it depends on what you intend to do with it.  Right now it sounds
like you're planning to drink it! :-)

If you are using it as pigment for hanga - don't mix any starch in with it
until it's put on your block.  Much easier to store & control the mix when
it's on the block.  The starch will add a component that will not store as
long as the sumi/gin mixture.

Wanda

on 4/8/03 2:51 PM, eli griggs at eli_griggs#yahoo.com wrote:


> Hi there:
> 
> This last week, I bought a pint of gin and eight or
> ten sumi sticks and brought them together, making the
> most wonderful black mud you ever did see!
> 
> O.K., so I have to ask, what the heck do I do now?
> 
> Should I add some starch, (what kind?) to the mix,
> dilute it with more gin, (I still have a sip or two
> left) or should I just add water as needed?
> 
> Regards,
> Eli



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From: G Wohlken <blueman#pantek.com>
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 14:46:27 -0400
Subject: [Baren 21286] Warm and Cool Eyes 

Regarding warm vision in one eye and cool in the other, I had heard we 
all have that and it aids in our three dimensional vision.  Anyone know 
more about that?  

Gayle/Ohio





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From: b.patera#att.net
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 18:56:32 +0000
Subject: [Baren 21287] Re: Warm and Cool Eyes 

Once asked the eye doc about seeing warm with one eye and cool with the other 
and he said that he had never been asked about this condition before and had no 
idea why or even that anyone's eyes actually saw that way. Has anyone else 
asked? Any answers? Do I need a new ophthalmologist?

Barbara Patera

  

> Regarding warm vision in one eye and cool in the other, I had heard we 
> all have that and it aids in our three dimensional vision.  Anyone know 
> more about that?  
> 
> Gayle/Ohio
> 
> 
> 
> 


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From: Mike Lyon <mikelyon#mlyon.com>
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 09:06:11 -0500
Subject: [Baren 21288] Re: congrats Mike etc 

At 09:00 PM 4/8/2003 -0400, you wrote:

>I also really enjoyed the Hishiki prints... there was one that looked sort 
>of like a cross between a bear and an owl that I particularly liked (on 
>the third webpage listed) - thanks for sharing those with us.


Here are some more beautiful little prints -- 66 of them!  Each is about 2" 
x 2 7/8", from about 1930 by Hiroaki Shotei...  The link is long, so be 
sure you copy the whole thing into your browser window!
http://www.floatingworld.com/docs/cat_Results.asp?wrk%5FExhibition=HiroakiMini&wrk%5FPAG=1&wrk%5FPAGSize=66 



- -- Mike


Mike Lyon
mailto:mikelyon#mlyon.com
http://www.mlyon.com 

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From: Minna Sora <indian.girl#luukku.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 22:37:41 +0300 (EEST)
Subject: [Baren 21289] Themes, miniatures and goggling 

Many thanks for the very good answers for all! I'm beginning to think a 
print with some chine colle.
And, Mike, special thanks for the reassuring fatherly tone... I appreciate 
your fast,  kind and guiding answers.


>I had quite a problem wading through all the gobbledegook and symbols

Strange, whatever I say on this topic, always some ostrichs come to goggle
 around. This time maybe it's the e-mail program, it adds automaticly some 
 sentences with scandinavian letters.

Interesting to see how people read the word "american".

Concluding from all the post it seems like exhange may appear to be somehow
 U.S. -centered.  And, Myron, I'm worrying about this.
I hope it won't mean that everything is seen as  pro or against something. 
Whatever parties or countries there may be.  (Especially "flag waving" as 
Sharri put it, is just surface, not depths) 

The works should interest also afterwards, even if you haven't even heard a
bout this war. I think a some kind of touch to contemporary situation is go
od, but also a broader and  deeper point of view.

Also, miniature exhange sound good. Maybe there could be more participants 
than usually? 3X4 is ideal, or a little bit more, if it is paper size.

Minna

(BTW, Does anybody feel pity for ruining the cradle of western civilization
, last traces of Mezopotamian and Babylonian cultures?)

............................................................
Maksuton s=E4hk=F6posti aina k=E4yt=F6ss=E4 http://luukku.com              =
             =20
Kuukausimaksuton MTV3 Internet-liittym=E4 www.mtv3.fi/liittyma


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From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 14:50:17 -0500
Subject: [Baren 21290] Re: ruining western civilization 


Minna writes:
"(BTW, Does anybody feel pity for ruining the cradle of western 
civilization, last traces of Mezopotamian and Babylonian cultures?)"

Yes, it was such a sorry sight seeing all those statues of Saddam topling 
over this morning....a real true loss for the art world and culture of the 
region.

Julio Rodriguez {;-)


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From: Barbara Mason <barbaramason45#yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 16:06:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 21291] Re: Warm and Cool Eyes 


Barbara,


I had this very thing when I was pregnant with my babies, all
three times! The doctor said it must be caused by
hormones...where does that leave eveyone? Maybe he just said that
because he had no idea what caused it! It seemed to go away and I
don't notice it now, but it was very dramatic! I think it has
something to do with the shape of the eyeball. Best to all,
Barbara b.patera#att.net wrote:Once asked the eye doc about
seeing warm with one eye and cool with the other and he said that
he had never been asked about this condition before and had no
idea why or even that anyone's eyes actually saw that way. Has
anyone else asked? Any answers? Do I need a new ophthalmologist?

Barbara Patera



> Regarding warm vision in one eye and cool in the other, I had heard we 
> all have that and it aids in our three dimensional vision. Anyone know 
> more about that? 
> 
> Gayle/Ohio
> 
> 
> 
> 



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From: David Bull <davebull#woodblock.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 08:11:13 +0900
Subject: [Baren 21292] Re: eyesight color shift 


> Seems I've got the similar "affliction" as others have mentioned.
> Right eye cool (plus astigmatism), left eye warm. (I'm sure everyone
> by now has squinted at the screen or the walls with first one eye,
> then the other.


Everybody should remember though, when trying this, that the way _each_ 
eye reacts to colour/light does change second by second throughout the 
day depending on how much illumination is falling on it.

For example, I am sitting looking at my computer screen at the moment, 
but off to the right hand side of my vision there is a window in the 
north wall of the room. Over on the south wall, there is no window. So 
there is a faint stream of light coming into the side of my right eye 
that is not present in the left eye. If I suddenly close my eyes tightly 
_and_ cover them with my hands, I can see the afterimages under my 
eyelids that show these differences. Doing a 'colour test' under these 
conditions will result in the two eyes reacting differently to the 
colours.

Now if I turn 180, look at the far wall for a minute to let the eyes 
become acclimatized to this new light situation (now the window is only 
visible in my _left_ eye), and then do my colour test again - the 
results may be completely _reversed_.

So make sure you 'even out' the illumination falling on your eyes for at 
least a few minutes, before 'deciding' that you have two 'different' 
eyes!

Dave


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From: FurryPressII#aol.com
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 20:25:15 EDT
Subject: [Baren 21293] Re: ruining western civilization 

Such great Stalinist art was lost today      ;-)       I am happy for that.  
Just as many were happy when nazi art was destroyed as well as Stalinist work 
as well.  Being an artist does not mean I have to love the scum of the earth 
like Joe Stalin, Hitler or Saddam.

How much artistic freedom existed in Iraq before today?  Very little I would 
say.  Just as the oppression has gotten worse in Cuba today.

John Center

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From: "Bea Gold" <bnj50#earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 18:10:11 -0700
Subject: [Baren 21294] cateracts and seeing yellow 


You probably have a cataract in your right eye.  I've heard that Van 
Gough saw yellow and that's why he used that wonderful yellow in his 
paintings.  I was shocked after Cataract surgery to find that I saw a 
white wall bright white with my left eye and yellow with my right.   
Check with your optometrist.  Bea

  From: Ruth Temple
  
  Cyndy Wilson quoth:

  > My hands are still very steady and I have good motor
  >> skills, but my eyes are not that great -- my right eye sees 
'cooler' than
  >> my left, I'm nearsighted, and I need to use no. 1.75 reading 
glasses.
  >> -- Mike
 
  > Wow!  I didn't know that anybody else saw colors differently from 
one eye to
  > the other.  My right eye sees warmer ( slightly more yellow) and the 
left
  > eye sees cooler (bluish).  Interesting.
  
  > Cyndy Wilson
  >


>  How wonderful to have a name for it! My eyes see the same way as 
>yours,
>  Cyndy.
>
>  -Ruth Temple
>  a new Baren lister, mostly listening to start



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From: John and Michelle Morrell <jmmorrell#gci.net>
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 19:48:34 -0800
Subject: [Baren 21295] Liberty in tennis shoes 

Carol in Sacramento wrote:
P.S. If you are curious, you can check out what I'm up to when I'm not
obsessing over woodcuts at
www.papalotl.com. Just be aware that there are no woodcuts there yet, and
the site is due for some updating.

Great stuff, Carol!  

^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^
Michelle Morrell
jmmorrell#gci.net
MichelleMorrell.com
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