Baren Digest Wednesday, 2 April 2003 Volume 23 : Number 2179 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Dew Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 08:53:46 -0500 Subject: [Baren 21186] Re: Baren Digest V22 #2177 #1. Sharri, ping me off line to chat, we have a lot in common! #2. Be very, very careful about taking our precious tools to a local sharpener. I have two useless stubs of former tools at home to prove the point of going to someone who says "sure, I can sharpen that thing". Right, he butchered them into worthless stumps. I do my own now, at least that way the only one at fault is myself. d. dew > From: Sharri LaPierre > Reply-To: baren#ml.asahi-net.or.jp > Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 11:03:04 -0800 > To: baren#ml.asahi-net.or.jp > Cc: NMfriese#aol.com > Subject: [Baren 21181] Re: Baren Digest V22 #2177 > > In response to sharpening service: I used to have it made because my > father was a saw sharpener - this was all before they came up with > disposable saws and carpenters and large construction companies, lumber > mills, etc., would send or bring their saws to him to have them > sharpened. He also did knives and scissors and - on occasion - wood > cutting tools! So, if you can find a saw/knife/lawn mower sharpener in > your area he will probably be happy to sharpen your tools for you. > These people are generally perfectionists and do a beautiful job. I > used to love to watch Daddy do the hand saws by hand - it was like > watching a conductor of a great orchestra. Then he invented a machine > to do them, but still would go over them once by hand to be sure the > machine did it right! (actually I think what he did was a finishing > treatment). Good luck. > > Sharri > ------------------------------ From: Mike Lyon Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 09:56:54 -0600 Subject: [Baren 21187] EXCHANGE #17 is open for sign-up Sign-up for Exchange #17 (War and Peace) is officially open at http://www.barenforum.org/exchange/exchange_sign-up.html - -- Mike Mike Lyon mailto:mikelyon#mlyon.com http://www.mlyon.com ------------------------------ From: "carolwagner" Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 09:46:29 -0800 Subject: [Baren 21188] Baren vol 22:#2177 You wrote: < Not to nit-pick, but it is Tyrus...> Oops! mea culpa, and apologies. Carol in Sacramento ------------------------------ From: Sharri LaPierre Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 09:57:29 -0800 Subject: [Baren 21189] Re: Baren Digest V22 #2178 Jack is right! I forgot to add that if you do take your tools to a saw/knife/scissor sharpener, be sure to stress that you want them hand-sharpened. No grinding wheels. Anyone worth his salt will do this anyway, but there are apparently a lot of saltless folks out there and you need to be wary of them. I would ask if they do chisels, etc. and if they have any experience with tools of this sort. Better safe than sorry. My best advise though remains: have a sharpener person in your family, either by parenthood, marriage, adoption, whatever means works. Sharri ------------------------------ From: JMartin906#aol.com Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 13:24:01 EST Subject: [Baren 21190] re. postcard calendar sign up Hi, Julio, I thought I signed up for the postcard calendar project a couple of days ago, but don't see my name on the list. Maybe it hasn't been updated or I am too late? (or I pushed the wrong button?) If I do make it onto the list, must I decide NOW if I want to use oil or water based ink? I said oil when I filled out the form, but I am wavering. Suzi Sutherland-Martin ------------------------------ From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 12:37:43 -0600 Subject: [Baren 21191] Re: re. postcard calendar sign up Hi Suzi, I did receive your signup notice and you are onboard, unfortunately the list is not updated yet as I was trying to finish up the Baren-suji newsletter before March slipped away. Calendar-2004 signup still has openings. http://www.barenforum.org/calendar/ You can do either oil or water....or both {;-), just let me know later when the prints are done. I will be putting up a colophon entry page soon so the participants can enter all the pertinent information. Baren-suji Newsletter - If I missed to mention exhibit or workshop info from any of our members, my apologies, please send me any info/photos/articles you want published in the June issue off-list to newsletter#barenforum.org thanks...Julio Rodriguez (Skokie, Illinois) ------------------------------ From: Mike Lyon Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 15:49:46 -0600 Subject: [Baren 21192] Re: Newsletter mailing notice >Issue #10 of Baren-Suji - the Newsletter of the [Baren] Forum for >Woodblock Printmaking - is now ready! Editor Julio Rodriguez has outdone >himself yet again, and produced an action-packed issue crammed with >information and stories of interest to all woodblock printmakers. > >The newsletter can be found at: >http://barenforum.org/newsletter/issue10/issue10.html GOOD LORD, JULIO !!! You are one aMAZing dude! What a GREAT Baren-Suji (actually, always great, but this quarter particularly great)! Thank you, thank you, thank you. What a huge undertaking! - -- Mike Mike Lyon mailto:mikelyon#mlyon.com http://www.mlyon.com ------------------------------ From: Wanda Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 14:47:34 -0800 Subject: [Baren 21193] Re: Baren Digest V22 #2177 on 4/1/03 5:53 AM, Daniel Dew at ddew#tampabay.rr.com wrote: > #1. Sharri, ping me off line to chat, we have a lot in common! > #2. Be very, very careful about taking our precious tools to a local > sharpener. I have two useless stubs of former tools at home to prove the > point of going to someone who says "sure, I can sharpen that thing". Right, > he butchered them into worthless stumps. > I do my own now, at least that way the only one at fault is myself. > I sharpen my own tools - I don't always do it right, but I had a To ruined by someone who thought he knew what he was doing - he took all the temper out for about the first 1/4" of steel! Darn! So after I hand sharpened that baby back past the scorched part, I won't let anyone else touch them! It really isn't that hard to sharpen them & if you didn't do it right - you'll know as soon as you start cutting & you can go back & do some more learning how to sharpen. One of the best implements to use while sharpening is a magnifier of some kind. Someone (Barbara Mason thank you!) gave me a loupe type magnifier so I can really *see* what I'm doing (or doing wrong). At least when you sharpen by hand you don't make any really big mistakes & ruin your precious tools! Wanda > ------------------------------ From: Barbara Mason Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 18:41:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Baren 21194] southern Graphics conference If anyone is going to SGC, Carol Pulin of the American Print Alliance would like some help with the Alliance booth. She relied on her husband greatly in the past, but since his death this past year, she will be on her own. So if anyone can spare an hour or two to help her she would be most grateful. The Print Alliance table will be at the registration area, rather than the product fair, Thurs, Fri and Sat a.m 8-12. Wish I were going to Boston, but our new grandchild arrived right on time and I am spending a lot of time holding a 7# little girl. Lots of black hair and very alert. You cannot believe how small a 7# human child is.....just visualize 10# of sugar and take 3 away....not much left. So amazing to hold the child of your child.....I cannot even describe the feeling. Best to all, Barbara ------------------------------ From: Barbara Mason Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 18:48:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Baren 21195] magnifier Wanda, you are most welcome! This little magnifier comes from Graphic Chemical and cost about $8 as I remember, so if you don't have a magnifying glass, this is great! It really lets you see what you have done, or not done! Best to all, Barbara >One of the best implements to use while sharpening is a magnifier of some >kind. Someone (Barbara Mason thank you!) gave me a loupe type magnifier so >I can really *see* what I'm doing (or doing wrong). At least when you >sharpen by hand you don't make any really big mistakes & ruin your precious >tools! > >Wanda > ------------------------------ From: Louise Cass Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 23:35:32 -0500 Subject: [Baren 21196] Re: green stuff for honing To Eli (+ others) Thanks for feedback on 'green stuff'. I had printed out the 'Guide to Honing and Sharpening' by Maurice Fraser on the Museum of Woodworking Tools site which seems to be standard -I didn't see that book on sharpening at Lee Valley but the fellow who is giving the sharpening workshops looked at my tools and seemed to feel that they just needed regular honing with the ' green stuff' - Previously I had sharpened them on Japanese water stones I'd bought at Lee Valley years ago - it seems I didn't ruin the tools. BUT HAS ANYONE TRIED THE SCARY SHARPENING METHOD ???(Maurice Fraser doesn't approve of it and the Lee Valley chap didn't say anything one way or the other - I tried applying the (PSA backed pieces) to curved dowels, etc and only the coarse grit (15M) would adhere so will have to get back to Lee Valley on that. I have a jeweller's loup which does help one to see what's happening with the edges, etc. Wish I could enter the War and Peace exchange but won't be able to meet the deadline. Good luck to everyone! Louise Cass P.S. What a great newsletter Julio! (and what a nice surprise seeing my #14 exchange print on it) At 08:19 AM 3/31/03 -0800, you wrote: >Hi there: > >Wrong author. Richard Lee for reloading info/how-to, >and gear. Leonard Lee, The Complete Guide to >Sharpening, for sharping how-to and tools. > >--- eli griggs wrote: > > >Look for a copy of "the compleat guide to sharping" by >Richard Lee, at Lee Valley Tools. > ------------------------------ From: eli griggs Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 03:38:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Baren 21197] Re: green stuff for honing Hi there: Lee Valley should have the book; it's by the owner. As to getting the adhesive sheets to adhere to wood, lightly sand and paint or shellac or polyurethane the wood several times to create a good base for the adhesive sheets. 3M spray adhesive, type 77 I think, is very good for gluing up non-adhesive sheets, such as auto wet/dry papers. Buy good quality sanding sheets and work on the pull stroke only and you will be OK. Cheers, Eli ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V23 #2179 *****************************