Baren Digest               Friday, 28 March 2003       Volume 22 : Number 2174


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From: "Jean Womack" <jeaneger#jeaneger.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 06:28:50 -0800
Subject: [Baren 21142] Re:   Baren Digest V22 #2173 

Perhaps a theme for an exchange could be a memorial to those killed in the
Iraq fighting.

Jean


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From: "marilynn smih" <marilynnsmih#hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 07:42:39 -0800
Subject: [Baren 21143] Re: Baren Digest V22 #2173 

My praga has a good clearance, i am not there to measure it, but it would 
take quite thick work.  My husband thinks it raises about 6 inches.  But I 
do have a free standing press not a table model.  I do understand the 
problem of a press not giving you much clearance, the little table model I 
have here in Mexico gives me very limited space, tiny little thing.  I hate 
being limited to smaller work, so get as big a bed as you can manage. April 
and I will be home in Washington with my big press and all my studio, 
yeah!!!
Marilynn Smith


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From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 10:22:15 -0600
Subject: [Baren 21144] Re: More photos, KC Summit 


I added more photos of the mini baren get together in Oakbrook Illinois. 
You can tell we are all smiles after the food 
arrived !!!  But seriously we had a real good time, talking prints and 
Baren stuff.....lot of fun talking in person instead of thru email. 

http://barenforum.org/messageboard/guestbook.html

There is still plenty of room available for the June get together in 
Kansas City.  Twenty onboard right now. Some not able to make the whole 
week of workshop and field trips may be able to come down to meet the 
folks, party and talk printmaking. 

http://www.barenforum.org/summit/

Julio
ps. Thanks to Don Linder for the newOakbrook pics

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From: Louise Cass <lcass#primus.ca>
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 12:36:34 -0500
Subject: [Baren 21145] Re: posting/press for sale 

Thanks but couldn't afford this one - 
Thanks again to all comments on presses - Actually, I can only accomodate
a table top -I should have a chance to use an old Vandercook at a printmakers
co-op in the U.K. this summer - now to find someone with an old Praga table-
top model as well as a Dan Patrick and I can decide what to go for - this is
pure indulgence as I'm not primarily a printmaker.

While I'm in writing mode, re my bugbear SHARPENING, I recently visited Lee
Valley Tools where the sharpening expert gave me a quick lesson and sold me
BLADE HONING COMPOUND (green stuff) saying that was all we really needed for
smallish woodcutting tools - you make a gouge in a piece of soft wood, rub
the green
stuff in and hone in the trough - it seems to work better than the micro
abrasive film 
(Scary method) which I went there for and decided to try out anyway.

Who has or is using either of these methods??
Cheers -
Louise C.  


At 08:17 AM 3/26/03 -0500, you wrote:

>   Hello, I have a Polymetaal press for sale: 4 years  old/ bed 24" x 47".
>5" upper roller. star wheel. $1750. w/blankets contact:
>dwaimon277#earthlink.net  Press  is located in CT. 

http://www.LCassArt.com

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From: Myron Turner <mturner#Ms.UManitoba.CA>
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 11:59:48 -0600
Subject: [Baren 21146] Re: posting/press for sale 

The Lee Valley green stuff is very good--just as he recommends, with a 
piece of wood.  I also put the green stuff on an old leather belt and use 
that.

Myron Turner


At 11:36 AM 27/03/2003, you wrote:


>While I'm in writing mode, re my bugbear SHARPENING, I recently visited Lee
>Valley Tools where the sharpening expert gave me a quick lesson and sold me
>BLADE HONING COMPOUND (green stuff) saying that was all we really needed for
>smallish woodcutting tools - you make a gouge in a piece of soft wood, rub
>the green
>stuff in and hone in the trough - it seems to work better than the micro
>abrasive film
>(Scary method) which I went there for and decided to try out anyway.
>
>Who has or is using either of these methods??
>Cheers -
>Louise C.
>
>
>At 08:17 AM 3/26/03 -0500, you wrote:

> >   Hello, I have a Polymetaal press for sale: 4 years  old/ bed 24" x 47".
> >5" upper roller. star wheel. $1750. w/blankets contact:
> >dwaimon277#earthlink.net  Press  is located in CT.

>http://www.LCassArt.com



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From: Daniel Dew <ddew#tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 12:59:50 -0500
Subject: [Baren 21147] Re: posting/press for sale 

I use the honing method almost exclusively, and as you might notice, I carve
very tiny lines, so I only hone if possible.  Haven't heard the method of
creating the groove in the wood before, which sounds neat and I'll give it a
try.  I also use Lee Valley's green honing compound, simply the best.

d. dew

> From: Louise Cass <lcass#primus.ca>


> Subject: [Baren 21145] Re: posting/press for sale


> While I'm in writing mode, re my bugbear SHARPENING, I recently visited Lee
> Valley Tools where the sharpening expert gave me a quick lesson and sold me
> BLADE HONING COMPOUND (green stuff) saying that was all we really needed for
> smallish woodcutting tools - you make a gouge in a piece of soft wood, rub
> the green
> stuff in and hone in the trough - it seems to work better than the micro
> abrasive film 
> (Scary method) which I went there for and decided to try out anyway.
> 
> Who has or is using either of these methods??
> Cheers -
> Louise C.  



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From: "Jeanne N. Chase" <studiojnc#prodigy.net>
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 14:24:00 -0500
Subject: [Baren 21148] Paper 


Do any of you folks out there know anything about a paper called
Ragston? Someone gave up art and gave me about 100 sheets of the
paper which he says is 100% rag. It looks a little like the
lightweight Rives.

I have not used it as yet but was wondering if anyone had used it
and how they like it. If it is used for what method. It looks
great to draw on and I will do that.

Speaking of presses;  I had an Etan press which was melted in the
fire and it was great. I now have a Tachach press with the gears.
I like it very much. It can also accommodate a pretty fat piece
of wood. Although I still prefer to use a baren for woodblock
printmaking.

Thanks for all of those neat little goats, sheep, etc, that have
been arriving. Mine is drying as I speak. And since I am an oily
person it will take awhile before they are ready to leave the pen.

Jeanne N.



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From: Sharri LaPierre <Barebonesart#attbi.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 12:06:19 -0800
Subject: [Baren 21149] Re: Baren Digest V22 #2173 

Hey, Jean, as I recall I said soviet with a little "s", as in 
politically acceptable socially engineered type art work.  I think you 
are on the wrong bandbox.  There is nothing wrong with Posters as 
Printmaking, and indeed, there is a long and glorious history in this 
genre, however, that has nothing to do with what we are talking about.  
This was all in reference to an exchange theme.  If someone suggested 
"Posters" as a theme that would be legitimate, also.  But, we were just 
looking for a general theme for the next exchange and "war and peace" 
were mentioned.  Then someone said that might degenerate into poster 
art, and the general consensus, as I took it, anyway, was posters were 
not what was wanted at this time.

I still think "war and peace" would be a terrific theme for an exchange 
and particularly relevant for this time in history. If some of the work 
would make a good poster, so be it - plenty of work for all the 
exchanges would look good as a poster! War and peace do not have to be 
purely political issues, they can also be moral, aesthetic, 
philosophical, theological  - you name it.

BTW- Marilynn, it is still a good idea to turn the bed of your press 
every few years.  I suppose the time period depends on how much you use 
it.  I use mine quite a lot, so I turn it every 3 years.( You are right 
on! Take care of your investments/materials and they will serve you 
well.) I missed changing it once - it completely slipped my mind and 
before I knew it  it had been 5 years - but, when I did turn it, it 
eventually straightened out.  Being continually squished between two 
rollers will eventually warp the bed, even when you release the tension 
when you've finished printing.  This is particularly true of composite 
beds, but I've seen some steel beds that were warped beyond recall, 
mostly in institutions where no one took the trouble to change the beds.
Sharri


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From: Myron Turner <mturner#Ms.UManitoba.CA>
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 17:06:17 -0600
Subject: [Baren 21150] Re: Paper 


Ragston was/is a 100% rag book paper , originally designed, I believe,
for people doing fine art letterpress printing. Years ago, we had a
small poetry publishing house and used Ragston for one of our books,
printing on dampened paper. Without dampening, it has a fairly hard
surface. But because of its light weight, I don't think you'd
want to soak it, as you might do with etching papers. I'd suggest
dampening every second sheet with a large brush or mister and stacking it
under weight in plastic garbage bag.
I still have a few hundred sheets of it myself but never print on it.
I'd be careful with large blocks, if you're putting it through an etching
press, since it might crease--which has been my experience with Arches
Text, another book paper, which is said to be ok for block printing in
paper catalogues Both are ok but only for smaller 
blocks.
Myron

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From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 17:48:43 -0600
Subject: [Baren 21151] Calendar-2004 Final Assignments and Instructions 

The  Calendar-2004 signup has pretty much slowed down to a fine
trickle..so it's time to finalize the project and get cutting &
printing !!!! My thanks to everyone for their support of this
project. I will put this info on a link to the main calendar
signup list soon...two openings remain for PAGE. Please
print/save this page for future reference.

Some of you entered several calendar formats so please check your
options and instructions carefully  for each format/calendar.

A suggestion was made early on the project discussion to have
everyone print on the same paper..but I think that for a
printmaker, paper choice is a major design option and one for
which I want to leave the door entirely open to you. Any quality
printmaking paper is acceptable. No restrictions in color or
brand but please take in consideration the nature of the project.
For the PAGE calendar,  papers that are either very light or very
heavy in weight should be avoided. Also papers that are somewhat
transparent or extremely delicate.

A note about month assignments. The names below appear in signup
order. If you entered a month in your signup form, I gave you
that...otherwise if you only entered a season, I gave you a month
still open for that season....else...I assigned remaining months
based on calendar & signup sequence.   Most popular month:
October

For my part I will start ordering paper & supplies, designing the
final calendar formats and trying to get a jump on some of the
work ahead. I may contact some of you for help as the project
goes along.





PAGE Calendar - Open Theme (40 prints needed) 7.5"W X 10"L (image 
orientation along the vertical), please leave approx. 1" open at top edge 
for binding. Please stick to this paper dimension to avoid discrepancy and 
possible trimming.

Mike Lyon - February
Julio Rodriguez - March
Maria Arango - April
Wanda Robertson - May
Thea Bendix - June
Gilda Machado-Zimmerling - July
Richard Campbell - November
Bobbie Mandel - January
Sharri LaPierre - August
Myron Turner - September

****two openings remain for October & December !!!!



POSTCARD Calendar - Open Theme  (4x6") print size, any orientation ok
*we will need 45 prints from each participant (or more if you are willing 
!)

Carol Gilbert-Wagner
Mike Lyon
Wanda Robertson
Kat Pukas
Barbara Mason
Jean Eger Womack
Dave Bull
Carol L. Myers
Mellissa Read-Devine
Richard Campbell
Louise Cass
Patricia B. Phare-Camp
Bobbie Mandel
Bea Gold
Jan Telfer
Bette Wappner
Julio Rodriguez
Gayle Wohlken - October
Maria Arango
Lezle Williams

*** signup for POSTCARD format will remain open until 24 participants 
signup


PRINTS-only Calendar - "Landscapes" (40 prints needed), prints
will be attached to an 11"W X 14"L calendar sheet pre-printed by
the project coordinator with the month info and using a laser
printer. Max paper/image width size for print is 8" and max
length size is 11". Minimum width size is 6" and minimum length
size is 9". Any size format within those ranges is acceptable
(ex. 6"W  X 11"L ).

Gilda Machado-Zimmerling - May
Ray Hudson - October
Joe Sheridan - April
Mary Jane Bohlen- February
Wanda Robertson - March
Jean Eger Womack - July
Richard Campbell - December
Frank Trueba - September 
Ruth Leaf - January
Carol Gilbert-Wagner -August
Carol L. Myers - November
Louise Cass - June

*taking entries for waiting list : Barbara Mason, Julio Rodriguez



PRINTS-only Calendar - "Nudes" (40 prints needed), prints will be attached 
to an 11"W X 14"L calendar sheet. The month info will be printed using a 
laser printer by the project coordinator. Max paper/image
width size is 8" and max length size is 11". Minimum width size is 6" and 
minimum length size is 9". Any size format within those ranges is 
acceptable ( ex. 6"W X 11" L).

Mike Lyon - January
Barbara Mason - February
Barbara Patera - April
Tony Redman - June
Cyndy Wilson - July
Jan Telfer  - May
Julio Rodriguez - March
Sharri LaPierre - September
Jeanne N. Chase - October
Patricia B. Phare-Camp - November 
Bobbie Mandel - December
Marilynn Smith - August

*taking entries for waiting list:  0


If there are any mistakes in your preferences or you have any questions 
feel free to post to the list or email off-list at calendar#barenforum.org

Send your prints to:

Julio Rodriguez
3801 Dobson
Skokie, Illinois
USA  60076


CUT, PRINT !!!

thanks....Julio Rodriguez




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From: G Wohlken <blueman#pantek.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 19:33:01 +0000
Subject: [Baren 21152] green stuff for honing 

I use the green stuff in grooves made on a board.  I think Baren member 
Eli Griggs was the first to suggest doing it this way.  I bought some 
basswood about four inches wide in a craft store and used it to make the 
grooves by cutting a groove with each tool.    Then I used the green 
stuff in the grooves and now hone by just pulling the tool toward me in 
the groove.  I do both sides of the tool.  For the insides of the gouges 
I use different sized dowel rods which have been coated with the green 
stuff.  I pull the tool down the dowel rod.  This works very well.      

Gayle


>While I'm in writing mode, re my bugbear SHARPENING, I recently visited Lee
>Valley Tools where the sharpening expert gave me a quick lesson and sold me
>BLADE HONING COMPOUND (green stuff) saying that was all we really needed for
>smallish woodcutting tools - you make a gouge in a piece of soft wood, rub
>the green
>stuff in and hone in the trough - it seems to work better than the micro
>abrasive film 
>(Scary method) which I went there for and decided to try out anyway.
>
>Who has or is using either of these methods??
>Cheers -
>Louise C.  
>
>
>
>  >




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From: Myron Turner <mturner#Ms.UManitoba.CA>
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 21:00:30 -0600
Subject: [Baren 21153] Re: Calendar-2004 Final Assignments and Instructions  


7.5 X 10 is the paper size?
Myron

>PAGE Calendar -
>Open Theme (40 prints needed) 7.5 W X 10 L (image orientation
>along the vertical), please leave approx. 1" open at top edge for
>binding. Please stick to this paper dimension to avoid discrepancy and
>possible trimming. 

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From: Roger Leee <leesartstuff#shaw.ca>
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 19:49:40 -0800
Subject: [Baren 21154] Re: posting/press for sale 

Hi there

Lee Valley "green Stuff" is great for honing VERY small gouges and V
grooves. I have been using it for a few years. A very worthwhile product

Roger Lee, Vernon


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