Baren Digest Saturday, 15 March 2003 Volume 22 : Number 2158 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shireen Holman Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:34:18 -0500 Subject: [Baren 20980] Re: Baren Digest V22 #2156 Beautiful work, Ruth! The only thing I would like to see on the website is more information about the prints. When you click on a print to get an enlargement, it would be nice to have something there about the imagery, the size, the paper used, etc. I especially like the woodcuts. Shireen At 12:38 PM 3/13/2003 -0500, you wrote: >I have a new website. I would love any comments from Baren members. Ruth > >http://www.ruthleaf.com *********************************************** Shireen Holman, Printmaker and Book Artist email: shireenh#earthlink.net http://www.shireenholman.com *********************************************** ------------------------------ From: "April Vollmer" Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:31:22 -0500 Subject: [Baren 20981] flying around I was just at Franklin & Marshall College in Lancaster PA for my show at the Phillips Museum. It was a very nice show, a good size gallery. I took the train out to give a talk last week and they put me up for a night in their pleasant guesthouse. Photos of the show are on my website at www.aprilvollmer.com/transmutations This was a show of woodcut AND digital work, I am finding many colleges are interested in what artists are doing with digital. I don't think digital does it alone, though, don't' worry, I'm not giving up woodblock! Now I am off to Berlin for two weeks to teach a Japanese woodblock class, and see some art! I thank Baren for introducing me to Eva Pietzcker and her Druckstelle workshop. I'll give a report when I return. best, April www.aprilvollmer.com ------------------------------ From: "Jeanne N. Chase" Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:40:55 -0500 Subject: [Baren 20982] Re: flying around Great show, April and what a gorgeous gallery to show off your art!!! Have fun in Berlin, I am sure you will wow them with your expertise. Ruth Nice web pages. I agree with a few people who want to know the sizes of the work. The colors on your woodblock prints are beautiful. Jeanne N. ------------------------------ From: "PHARE-CAMP,PATTI (HP-USA,ex1)" Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:29:33 -0800 Subject: [Baren 20983] RE: Baren Digest V22 #2157 Gillyan: I loved the sheep postcard. It's sitting prominently on the fireplace mantle. I'm going to share it with my classmates in a class on Marcel Duchamp. We've been discussing content and how it is expressed in art. Your piece is topical and very timely. Just as Maria's earlier "Ram Descending: after Duchamp" came just in time for me to share it in the second class session. BTW, I didn't even think of Afghanistan or Iraq when I saw it, it reminded me of a Basque shepherd, and of the many images of Christ with a lamb on his shoulder. Now will someone please pass me the peas...Patti P-C ------------------------------ From: richard stockham Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:31:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Baren 20984] Re: Ball-bearing baren? - --- Marco Flavio Marinucci wrote: trying to > find a way to ease the > strain on the shoulder and secure good ink transfer. Marco, I had a pain in my shoulder after printing a large number of impressions. I solved it by inclining the printing surface away from me so I used a different set of muscles; more like pulling than pushing. I got the idea from something I saw in the Baren Encyclopedia, I think, but I just searched there for the link and could not find it. Good luck, Richard Stockham Birmingham, Alabama ------------------------------ From: Bobbi Chukran Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:35:25 -0600 Subject: [Baren 20985] Question about framing prints Hi guys, I've been lurking mostly, working on some collages (some of which include prints), but still have a few unframed prints here that I've done, or bought from others, that need to be framed. My question is: how do you frame your prints? I know I need something for a spacer between the print and glass, right? I saw Maria's prints on Ebay with the oak frames, (they look great, BTW) and no matts.......Are you using some kind of spacer in there, or is one really needed? I realize a mat would work, but I'd like to frame some of these without them...... Thanks! Bobbi C. http://www.bobbichukran.com ------------------------------ From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 12:25:07 -0600 Subject: [Baren 20986] Re: mailing list for sheep, calendar signup update Bea writes: " Let's enjoy all our artistic expressions whether we agree with the politics or not and keep them coming. I'm finishing my Sheep print but can't find the addresses - anyone? " Bea, did you mean keep the politics coming ? {;-) The Sheep/goat mailing info can be linked to from: http://www.skokienet.org/bandits/jcrstuff/blacksheep/snames.html The signup for the Baren Calendar-2004 project/fund-raiser is going well. Approx. 40+ entries so far, enough to put out at least one of each of the calendar formats offered. The long work period (six months) should give plenty of chance for many of us to participate. More info soon. http://barenforum.org/calendar/ thanks......Julio Rodriguez ------------------------------ From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 12:31:56 -0600 Subject: [Baren 20987] Re: strain on the shoulder while printing.. Marco & others...check this one-point lesson relating to relieving strain while printing... http://barenforum.org/encyclopedia/entries/onepoint/018_31/018_31_frame.html Julio ------------------------------ From: Wanda Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:02:50 -0800 Subject: [Baren 20988] sheep/goats/rams page Here is the URL for the New Year's cards: http://www.skokienet.org/bandits/jcrstuff/blacksheep/snames.html I have sure been enjoying the great variety of images coming in. They are all so individual and so expressive. I think this may be the most artistic bunch we've exchanged so far. Wanda ------------------------------ From: Myron Turner Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 13:38:24 -0600 Subject: [Baren 20989] Speedball Water-based Ink An artist in the studio next door to me bought some speedball water-based black ink---she's just starting out in woodblocks. The texture of the ink surface on her block looked very uneven and the Japanese paper she was using stuck to the block. The paper was--I believe --Kitikata. So she re-inked the block and we took it to my studio and put it on my etching press and used a piece of Japanese paper, which I had around and which I believe is called Sekishu. This time the sticking was even worse--no doubt the added pressure of the press. I've printed with both these papers in the long ago past, and I don't recall ever having this problem. But I always used oil-based inks. These days I often use water-based ink from Daniel Smith for proofing and I proof on an old stock of Moriki. And I never have this problem with the DS water-based ink. Any advice for her? Myron ------------------------------ From: LEAFRUTH#aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 14:39:00 EST Subject: [Baren 20990] Re: Baren Digest V22 #2157 Charles and Barbara Thank you for your comments. The print eqinox uses 4 plates and is printed all at once. The secret is that the surface prints are a very thin zinc which is placed in the area bitten down for them. The viscosity prints are all 15"x18". Thats the size my rollers can do and I can handle them because they are not as heavy As the rollers for a 18"x24". Ruth http://www.ruthleaf.com ------------------------------ From: Charles Morgan Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:36:23 -0800 Subject: [Baren 20991] Re: Baren Digest V22 #2157 Wonderful stuff ... thanks very much, Ruth. Cheers ..... Charles ------------------------------ From: Daniel Dew Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 14:52:34 -0500 Subject: [Baren 20992] Re: Speedball Water-based Ink from a Speedball expert, print faster. I have found in using the Speedball inks that they dry very, very fast. Sometimes, if the air is very dry, I will use a humidifier in the room to slow down the drying. Roll the ink out very thinly, work quickly or use Graphic Chemical inks, which dry slower. Daniel L. Dew Suncoast Equipment Funding Corporation http://www.suncoastleasing.com http://www.dandew.com ddew#tampabay.rr.com > From: Myron Turner > Reply-To: baren#ml.asahi-net.or.jp > Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 13:38:24 -0600 > To: baren#ml.asahi-net.or.jp > Subject: [Baren 20989] Speedball Water-based Ink > > An artist in the studio next door to me bought some speedball water-based > black ink---she's just starting out in woodblocks. The texture of the ink > surface on her block looked very uneven and the Japanese paper she was > using stuck to the block. The paper was--I believe --Kitikata. So she > re-inked the block and we took it to my studio and put it on my etching > press and used a piece of Japanese paper, which I had around and which I > believe is called Sekishu. This time the sticking was even worse--no doubt > the added pressure of the press. > > I've printed with both these papers in thelong ago past, and I don't recall > ever having this problem. But I always used oil-based inks. These days I > often use water-based ink from Daniel Smith for proofing and I proof on an > old stock of Moriki. And I never have this problem with the DS water-based > ink. > > Any advice for her? > > Myron > ------------------------------ From: Roger Leee Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:57:34 -0800 Subject: [Baren 20993] Re: Question about framing prints Hello I have owned and operated a frame store for several years. My advise is to USE MATS. Mats have two purposes: 1. to make the picture look good 2: and MOST important - is to create an air space between the glass and the art work. If the art work is allowed to make contact with the glass, it has the propensity to stick, fade, discolour ( SIC if you are Canadian) get moldy and other very unsatisfactory changes. If you have work that is going to be frames sans mat. then the work must be mounted ( in an archival manner - no glue) and the glass is then supported using "FRAME SPACERS" your frame store or art store should be able to supply these if you are a home framer. I have personally uses a back mount frame with no glass for short periods of time - 1 -2 weeks for a show - but not for permanent display. Roger Lee\ Vernon, BC Canada - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobbi Chukran" To: Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 9:35 AM Subject: [Baren 20985] Question about framing prints > Hi guys, > > I've been lurking mostly, working on some collages (some of which include > prints), but still have a few unframed prints here that I've done, or > bought from others, that need to be framed. > > My question is: how do you frame your prints? I know I need something for > a spacer between the print and glass, right? I saw Maria's prints on Ebay > with the oak frames, (they look great, BTW) and no matts.......Are you > using some kind of spacer in there, or is one really needed? > > I realize a mat would work, but I'd like to frame some of these without > them...... > > Thanks! > > Bobbi C. > http://www.bobbichukran.com > > > > ------------------------------ From: "Bea Gold" Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 12:15:43 -0800 Subject: [Baren 20994] Re: Ball-bearing baren? Hi Marco, I've been using a ball bearing baren I bought from the Baren mall for a couple of years. I love it. I have used the nylon, plastic, $40 wrapped baren and then this Korokoro Baren. I have no desire to change tools. It's strong. easy to use and stays in usable shape with out needing to change the covering. Good luck on finding the right one. Bea Gold > hello there, do any of you use a ball-bearing baren with water > based inks? I print very saturated deep colors on 9x12 prints > and trying to find a way to ease the strain on the shoulder and > secure good ink transfer. Any feedback is welcome. Grazie, > Marco Flavio ------------------------------ From: Bobbi Chukran Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 14:19:37 -0600 Subject: [Baren 20995] Re: Question about framing prints Hi Roger, Thanks. Your answer was what I suspected......that I either need a matt or a spacer of some type. Funny thing, I've never been able to find spacers around here at any of the art stores or arts/crafts stores. All the frame shops have dried up and blown away (unfortunately).....And I do use linen tape to mount my prints.... Maybe I can find some spacers from a mail-order art supplier........ Bobbi C. >I have owned and operated a frame store for several years. My advise is to >USE MATS. Mats have two purposes: 1. to make the picture look good 2: and >MOST important - is to create an air space between the glass and the art >work. ------------------------------ From: "Gillyin Gatto" Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 16:29:02 -0500 Subject: [Baren 20996] Bareners thanks to Jean and Louise for encouragement concerning my sheep postcard i appreciate your compliments/comments i admit tofeeling paranoia about how barener folks would take it and when the Baren digest did not come on wednesday i truly thought i had been kicked off ! i was pleased to learn otherwise when it came on thursday and get a reassuring email from moderator Wanda John and Carol - thanks for your opinions too i agree with you that my card is "political" the personal IS political and vice versa i disagree that being for peace is being' for Hussein.' one can advocate a " win without war" philosophy that includes peaceful diplomatic solutions.... but i dont want to stir up a "political "discussion at all so 'nuff said ... we all follow our own conscious' and are "right" with ourselves I wrote an op-ed piece about the 'year of the sheep' post card exchange for my local papers in which i praise the BAREN FORUM as a " true global community which enhances each others' lives and CREATES peace by NOT talking about politics, but simply sharing and encouraging our common interest -woodcuts" if anyone would like an email copy of that short article - let me know off list i am thankful that baren members from all over the world can peacefully discuss all the things we do and share ourselves through art thank you to Bea for noting this too and your comments on my postcard........ Ruth - thanks for steering us to your website , it is great to see-- I love your masks and the colorful woodcuts and, as i have shared with you before, about a piece in an exchange- your colors always seem to jump off the page -very exciting work ! but my favorite is the black and white fawn Gillyin ------------------------------ From: Mike Lyon Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 15:41:17 -0600 Subject: [Baren 20997] Re: At 04:29 PM 3/14/2003 -0500, Gillyin wrote: >I wrote an op-ed piece about the 'year of the sheep' >post card exchange for my local papers >in which i praise the BAREN FORUM as a > " true global community which enhances each others' lives and > CREATES peace by NOT talking about politics, > but simply sharing and encouraging our common interest -woodcuts" Dear Gillyin, I hope you'll send the email version of your op-ed piece for the entire forum to enjoy. I'm sure we'd ALL love to read it (I know I would)! Thanks, Mike Mike Lyon mailto:mikelyon#mlyon.com http://www.mlyon.com ------------------------------ From: FurryPressII#aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 17:01:17 EST Subject: [Baren 20998] Re: You will note there were no anti-saddam posters, etc., at the so called peace demos. Both positions are political and if you say no politics it applies to every one not just the pol. correct crowd. To me appeasement will not bring peace and Saddam goal is not peace in any manor. John Center ------------------------------ From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 17:11:42 -0600 Subject: [Baren 20999] Re: Non-printmaking related. Stop reading now if you are sensitive to the US-Iraq conflict ! IMO, don't think the US would be mobilizing such a large military force just for show. It is highly unlikely the US is just going to bring them all back w/o achieving the goals outlined by the coalition of countries against Iraq. The only realistic way to avoid war and killing at this late stage is for the leader of Iraq to abdicate and leave in exile. Other countries and war protesters should focus all their energy toward such a "peaceful" solution....it is the only win-win scenario...for Iraq and it's people and the US and it's allies. You can argue both sides of politics, world rights and justifications forever and ever (not on this forum list, go to Baren-After-5 {;-) ....but you can't stop this action anymore than you can stop a wounded elephant. Had all countries come to a unified agreement at the start, the pressure on Iraq would have been insurmountable and the goals would have been achieved by now. Is like going outside and seeing a big storm coming....you can curse the weather all you want and you can wish for the sun to come out....but if you don't get out of the way or take cover....you are going to get all wet! Weather Forecast in Iraq for the next few weeks: Heavy Rains and ThunderStorms ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V22 #2158 *****************************