Baren Digest Thursday, 13 February 2003 Volume 22 : Number 2128 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fatima Ferreira" Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 20:22:24 -0000 Subject: [Baren 20726] Re: Print Alliance It is Fatima Ferreira again... my email is fami#clix.pt thank you so much again... Fatima ------------------------------ From: Myron Turner Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:35:11 -0600 Subject: [Baren 20727] Re: Japanese papers for printing with oil-based inks Thank you all for your comments on Tableau and for your suggestions about Japanese papers for oil-based printing. They have been very helpful. Of course, the problem from up here (Winnipeg) is that many papers are not readily available to see and touch. But from your combined descriptions I do have a very good sense of what the paper is like. I've written to some of the places Barbara suggested I contact, and I've asked the University of Manitoba Book Store about Moriki, and they are getting me a sample of what they believe is Moriki from one of their suppliers. (It comes in at $CDN 8.00 per sheet--I had so much of it and didn't realize I was sitting on so much money--I could have sold it and retired earlier!) Thaks again, Myron ------------------------------ From: "Maria Diener (aka Arango)" Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 14:49:22 -0800 Subject: [Baren 20728] RE: papers and sandstone Dan, thanks for the info on marble printing, that print is very nice. I will try shellac seal and a stiffer ink. I printed some today off a particularly smooth piece of sandstone and it turned out soft and beautiful. My goal is to print a background and then print the actual carved stone on top to come up with a realistic approximation of the original carved stone. Anyhow, just playin' Myron, might try getting some sample sheet booklets from several vendors so you can "chew" on the papers a bit before ordering. I own several little booklets from diverse vendors and when I really want to try a paper I order a few full sheets to get a full "taste." Maria <||><||><||><||><||><||> Maria Arango Las Vegas Nevada USA www.1000woodcuts.com <||><||><||><||><||><||> ------------------------------ From: David Bull Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 08:40:36 +0900 Subject: [Baren 20729] Re: stone prints? Maria wrote: > I was talking with a brave fellow art festival goer who does stone > carving > on flat sandstone. He has been wanting to make prints off the stone > and I > think the texture of the stone would be awesome. It would indeed, and there is a 'standard' technique available for this job, used for taking 'prints' from things like relief-carved monuments, etc. - - use a fairly thinnish paper, or at least one that is fairly 'stretcheable' when damp - - place the paper over the stone, spray it as necessary with a mister, and gently press it down into the carved areas of the stone, working slowly and spraying as necessary. - - once it is all in place, let it dry - - using a 'tampo' (dabber), dab the ink of your choice over the face of the paper. The areas pressed down into the carved lines will remain white. Might this be suitable for your friend? He could present some pretty awesome looking prints to go along with his stones I think! Dave ------------------------------ From: "Maria Diener (aka Arango)" Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:22:36 -0800 Subject: [Baren 20730] Re: stone prints? Perfect! Awesome prints indeedy! Thank you, Dave, I will try that too. Should work especially well here since the paper will dry very tightly to the stone. Ohhhhh boy. M <||><||><||><||><||><||> Maria Arango Las Vegas Nevada USA www.1000woodcuts.com <||><||><||><||><||><||> > It would indeed, and there is a 'standard' technique available for this > job, used for taking 'prints' from things like relief-carved monuments, > etc. > > - use a fairly thinnish paper, or at least one that is fairly > 'stretcheable' when damp > > - place the paper over the stone, spray it as necessary with a mister, > and gently press it down into the carved areas of the stone, working > slowly and spraying as necessary. > > - once it is all in place, let it dry > > - using a 'tampo' (dabber), dab the ink of your choice over the face of > the paper. The areas pressed down into the carved lines will remain > white. > > Might this be suitable for your friend? He could present some pretty > awesome looking prints to go along with his stones I think! > > Dave ------------------------------ From: ruthf4#aol.com Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 19:35:35 EST Subject: [Baren 20731] Re: Print Alliance Barbara, Please add my email to the Print Alliance lists Thanks, Ruth ------------------------------ From: Roger Leee Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 21:00:42 -0800 Subject: [Baren 20732] Re: stone prints? Hi there The Chinese use stone to create "prints" A stone is carved - usually in reverse, but not necessarily. A piece of paper ( rice ) is Adhered to the stone and dried. Color - usually black - is then "pounced" onto the surface of the paper with a very hard ball of soft leather- about 5 inches in diameter. This will allow the pigment to color the area that has NOT been carved. The carved area will not receive the color because the paper has " sunk down below the surface of the stone. The " Pouncing " will take a LONG time as very little pigment is used at a time. When all is completed, the paper is wet and lifted off the stone and Voila - a print.. Roger Lee - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maria Diener (aka Arango)" To: "Baren" Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 8:03 AM Subject: [Baren 20709] stone prints? > Hi all, > > I was talking with a brave fellow art festival goer who does stone carving > on flat sandstone. He has been wanting to make prints off the stone and I > think the texture of the stone would be awesome. I'm willing to experiment a > little, but would like to avoid horrid expensive mistakes if at all possible > (I know, what a coward, ey?) Has anyone done relief printing off sandstone > or similar porous stone? Any tips or suggestions? > > TIA > Maria > > <||><||><||><||><||><||> > Maria Arango > Las Vegas Nevada USA > www.1000woodcuts.com > <||><||><||><||><||><||> > > ------------------------------ From: ReadDevine#aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 00:04:55 EST Subject: [Baren 20733] Print Alliance > Send your address to me by replying to this post and I will put you on the > list. > > Best to all, > > Barbara > > > > ... I have one Aunt, a cousin and a Mother in law who live in the States - Hey I'm almost American! (I was going to say Yank, but is that rude?) In the same vein I can also call myself English, Irish, French, Portuguese.... Thankyou Barbara Mellissa Read-Devine Tennyson, Sydney, Australia www.depicture.com.au ------------------------------ From: Roger Leee Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 21:05:32 -0800 Subject: [Baren 20734] Re: Print Alliance Hello Barbara Please add my name ... Many Thanks Barbara ------------------------------ From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Hor=E1cio_Soares?= Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 06:12:25 -0300 Subject: [Baren 20735] Re: Print Alliance Dear Barbara Horacio Soares Neto ... horacio#centroin.com.br Thanks Horacio ------------------------------ Archivist's Note: Snail Mail addresses removed for privacy -------------------------------------- End of Baren Digest V22 #2128 *****************************