Baren Digest              Friday, 24 January 2003      Volume 22 : Number 2106


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From: "Jean Eger Womack" <jeaneger#jeaneger.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 05:28:57 -0800
Subject: [Baren 20521] Re:   Baren Digest V22 #2105  

Marilyn,
As I read you comments about working spontaneously in the wood, I wished you
could see the Munkata Shiko exhibition at the Los Anglees Museum of Art.
They have a video of him furiously cutting the wood with a V-veiner, using
it almost as a brush.  And he was nearly blind, leaning down so close to the
plate that his nose could almost touch it.  Then he would rapidly clear the
plate with a u-gouge, leaving the kind of marks that you like.  So you have
a very illustrious model for your kind of cutting.  However, it doesn't hurt
to know how to do precise work, as long as one is not constricted and
stifled by it.  You might want to get the exhibition catalog, a beautiful
hardcover book that cost about $60.

Jean Womack


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From: David Bull <davebull#woodblock.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 23:38:40 +0900
Subject: [Baren 20522] Exhibition snapshots ... 

The page doesn't have any descriptions yet ... but the first batch of 
photos of this year's Tokyo exhibition are now up:

http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~xs3d-bull/exhibitions_events/finished.html

Prints by _three_ [Baren] members are visible, if you look carefully 
enough!

Dave


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From: John Amoss <amoss#mindspring.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 09:50:22 -0500
Subject: [Baren 20523] Re: Exhibition snapshots ... 

I don't see how you do it all Dave!
What is your secret- Elves? Cloning?
- -John Amoss

on 1/23/03 9:38 AM, David Bull at davebull#woodblock.com wrote:


> The page doesn't have any descriptions yet ... but the first batch of
> photos of this year's Tokyo exhibition are now up:
> 
> http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~xs3d-bull/exhibitions_events/finished.html
> 
> Prints by _three_ [Baren] members are visible, if you look carefully
> enough!
> 
> Dave
> 



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From: Mike Lyon <mikelyon#mlyon.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 08:49:28 -0600
Subject: [Baren 20524] Re: Exhibition snapshots ... 

Dear Dave,

The show looks just GREAT !!!  Congratulations, good job, and thanks!

Mike

At 11:38 PM 1/23/2003 +0900, you wrote:

>The page doesn't have any descriptions yet ... but the first batch of 
>photos of this year's Tokyo exhibition are now up:
>http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~xs3d-bull/exhibitions_events/finished.html
>Prints by _three_ [Baren] members are visible, if you look carefully enough!
>Dave





Mike Lyon
mailto:mikelyon#mlyon.com
http://www.mlyon.com  

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From: David Bull <davebull#woodblock.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 00:04:18 +0900
Subject: [Baren 20525] Re: Exhibition snapshots ... 

Mike wrote:

> The show looks just GREAT !!!  Congratulations, good job, and thanks!


John wrote:

> I don't see how you do it all Dave!
> What is your secret- Elves? Cloning?


Look at that! Not ten minutes after I post that link, look which two 
[Baren] members post a reply!

You think they were waiting or something?!

Dave

(Capsule descriptions now added ...)
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~xs3d-bull/exhibitions_events/finished.html


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From: "Jeanne N. Chase" <studiojnc#prodigy.net>
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 10:46:59 -0500
Subject: [Baren 20526] Re: Exhibition snapshots ...  

Dave

What a fantastic exhibition and it is sooo finely presented. Wish we could
see the real thing.
I did spot Mike Lyons beautiful print in the show.

Anyway , congratulations on another successful endeavor.

Jeanne N.


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From: Bette Wappner <bettewappner#earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:00:36 -0500
Subject: [Baren 20527] Re: Exhibition snapshots ... 

Dear Dave 
Thank you so much for presenting your beautiful exhibit to us!  I will look
at it many, many times and will wish each time that I was there in person to
meet you, your family, and to admire your outstanding art.
Thank you again also for your passion of your art, for Baren, and to
everyone here who shares what they know and do.  I appreciate all of you.
Best Regards.  Domo Arigato.
Bette Wappner


> From: David Bull <davebull#woodblock.com>
> Reply-To: baren#ml.asahi-net.or.jp
> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 23:38:40 +0900
> To: baren#ml.asahi-net.or.jp
> Subject: [Baren 20522] Exhibition snapshots ...
> 
> The page doesn't have any descriptions yet ... but the first batch of
> photos of this year's Tokyo exhibition are now up:
> 
> http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~xs3d-bull/exhibitions_events/finished.html
> 
> Prints by _three_ [Baren] members are visible, if you look carefully
> enough!
> 
> Dave
> 



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From: ArtfulCarol#aol.com
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:00:32 EST
Subject: [Baren 20528] Re: Exhibition snapshots ... 

Dave, Congratulations! 
 Beautiful job of exhibiting.

How did you attach the actual paper?
Carol
Irvington, NY

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From: G Wohlken <blueman#pantek.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:32:03 +0000
Subject: [Baren 20529] Tinting the Paper 

This is regarding tinting the sheets of paper (that will be printed) a 
little deeper color because I don't like the white.  I will do this when 
moistening the paper just before printing,  and will use a wide brush. 
 However, in my experiments, I notice I run kind of dry by the end of 
the paper (which would be cut to 16 inches long).  So how do I do this 
evenly so as not to get streaks or overlaps?  It seems I would have to 
reload the brush some toward the end of the sheet and in the place I go 
over it or try to meet the last brush stroke, it seems there will be a 
problem of slight overlapping or if I'm careful, I might even leave an 
accidental white gap from where I left off and where I start again.  How 
do we do this smoothly without overlaps.  There's no way I can seem to 
load the brush with enough water to go to the end, and then there's the 
problem of over-moistening the paper, and the third thing is I will have 
to do this to each sheet of paper instead of the recommended "moisten 
every other one".  Can anyone advise?

Gayle in Ohio  




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From: Mike Lyon <mikelyon#mlyon.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 10:59:28 -0600
Subject: [Baren 20530] Re: Tinting the Paper 

At 11:32 AM 1/23/2003 +0000, Gayle wrote:

>This is regarding tinting the sheets of paper (that will be printed) a 
>little deeper color because I don't like the white.  I will do this when 
>moistening the paper just before printing,  and will use a wide brush. 
>However, in my experiments, I notice I run kind of dry by the end of the 
>paper (which would be cut to 16 inches long).  So how do I do this evenly 
>so as not to get streaks or overlaps?  It seems I would have to reload the 
>brush some toward the end of the sheet and in the place I go over it or 
>try to meet the last brush stroke, it seems there will be a problem of 
>slight overlapping or if I'm careful, I might even leave an accidental 
>white gap from where I left off and where I start again.  How do we do 
>this smoothly without overlaps.  There's no way I can seem to load the 
>brush with enough water to go to the end, and then there's the problem of 
>over-moistening the paper, and the third thing is I will have to do this 
>to each sheet of paper instead of the recommended "moisten every other 
>one".  Can anyone advise?
>
>Gayle in Ohio


It can be impossible to do this with a 'normal' brush -- one of those 
WONDERFUL mizu-baki from the Mall at 
http://www.barenforum.org/mall/products/mizu_bake.html will make quick work 
of it, though -- a fully charged brush holds an AMAZING amount of liquid 
without dripping and releases it so evenly!  Charge the brush and start the 
stroke moving quickly and then gradually slower and slower as you reach the 
end of the sheet and the stroke will coat the paper evenly with water (or 
water and pigment) -- takes some practice but works SO well!  But it may be 
easier to dip each sheet in a tinted bath of water and then stack up to 
drain interleaving with dry sheets.  Another approach might be to print the 
color on dampened sheets using an uncarved block

When you're done with the mizu-baki, wash out the color and shake the brush 
hard and then hang it up bristles down to dry.

Let the paper relax at least overnight before printing!

Mike


Mike Lyon
mailto:mikelyon#mlyon.com
http://www.mlyon.com  

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From: Louise Cass <lcass#primus.ca>
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 12:30:19 -0500
Subject: [Baren 20531] mail format problrms  

Apologies for a messy message once more - I believe someone (Gayle)
had a suggestion on how to correct it but I've misplaced the info
help?!
Louise Cass
http://www.LCassArt.com

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From: Myron Turner <mturner#Ms.UManitoba.CA>
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:35:07 -0600
Subject: [Baren 20532] Re: mail format problrms  

Just received your very lovely sheep.

Myron Turner

At 12:30 PM 23/01/2003 -0500, you wrote:


>Apologies for a messy message once more - I believe someone (Gayle)
>had a suggestion on how to correct it but I've misplaced the info
>help?!
>Louise Cass
>http://www.LCassArt.com



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From: Mike Lyon <mikelyon#mlyon.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 12:59:15 -0600
Subject: [Baren 20533] Miniature Print Competition... 

At 08:08 PM 12/4/2002 -0500, April Vollmer wrote:

>International Miniature Print Exhibition
>Juror:  Reba White Williams, Ph.D.
>President, The Print Research Foundation
>send for prospectus
>Center For Contemporary Printmaking
>299 West Avenue, Matthews Park
>Norwalk, CT  06850 USA
>Contemprints#snet.net
>Deadline for entries February 1, 2003


I normally do not show or sell my work nor enter competitions (if you're 
curious, I sorta describe why in a lengthy interview I gave to CIDTALK at 
http://www.cidtalk.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=260 ...

BUT... there was something irresistible to me about the Center for 
Contemporary Printmaking's Miniature Print Competition that April Vollmer 
introduced to us last month...  I think it was the tiny size.  So I spent a 
couple of days week before last and produced three TINY prints for 
submission...  The largest is 4" x 1".  Each of these is a traditional 
moku-hanga (except that they were all reduction prints which saves 
considerable wood and carving time).  The 'fanciest' of the three had 16 
printings (color layers or 'blocks') and the 'simplest' had 8.  You'll 
recognize that one, perhaps, as it is the same design I used for my Baren 
Exchange #12 print...

Anywho...  my new teeny tiny prints can be viewed on-line at 
http://www.mlyon.com/prints/relief/teeny_tiny.htm -- I think they're sorta 
"precious"     :-)

- -- Mike


Mike Lyon
mailto:mikelyon#mlyon.com
http://www.mlyon.com  


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From: Aqua4tis#aol.com
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 14:57:54 EST
Subject: [Baren 20534] Re: Miniature Print Competition... 



these are wonderful mike   hard to believe they are so small
bravo
georga



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From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 14:13:14 -0600
Subject: [Baren 20535] Re: Miniature Print Competition... 


Mike,

Good luck with your miniature entries, they are indeed precious! I am 
specially moved by "Sarah". There is a very elusive, romantic and 
mysterious feeling to that print, very nice work!!!

Speaking of your work, I had wanted to comment a while back about your 
print from Exchange #14a (Blue Shoes).   As always we get to talking a lot 
about our printing problems, deadlines and mailing issues...but not much 
discussion takes place after the prints are received.  I am just as guilty 
as the next. 

I like 'Blue Shoes' a lot. IMO, it captures the wonderful essence of a 
Normal Rockwell composition. Subtle things which amount to a great 
image......the gentle overlapping of the two heads, the imaginary line 
that follows the hands of mother & child to the shoes, the blending of the 
background colors, having the mother w/o shoes, etc.
Most importantly I like the fact that we can't see the mother's 
face...only the child's expression gives us a hint of what could possibly 
be going on. 

thanks for sharing your work with us.....Julio


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From: G Wohlken <blueman#pantek.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 15:55:59 +0000
Subject: [Baren 20536] Dave's Show 

Beautiful show, Dave!  Tasteful and serene and meditative.  I like the 
hush of the dim lighting, and the little spotlights affixed above the 
prints.

Gayle/Ohio  




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From: David Bull <davebull#woodblock.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 07:47:54 +0900
Subject: [Baren 20537] Re: Tinting the Paper 

Thanks for the comments/notes about the Tokyo exhibition preparation. 
Had a fairly heavy fall of snow for the first day so things were quiet 
indeed ...  Hopefully things will pick up today!

A couple of you asked about wanting to see the David's Choice prints in 
more detail. These _will_ be up in a new section of the website in due 
course, but I just don't have time for that this week. If you can't 
wait, you can read the text that is on the display panes if you download 
this file:
http://woodblock.com/media/davids_choice.pdf

***

Gayle wrote:

> This is regarding tinting the sheets of paper (that will be printed) a 
> little deeper color because I don't like the white.  I will do this 
> when moistening the paper just before printing,  and will use a wide 
> brush.


My recent experience is that trying to combine this job with the paper 
moistening job means that neither gets done properly. The 'old guys' 
could apparently do this, but I haven't had much success. These days I 
do the tinting job first, and then when the paper has dried, go ahead 
with the moistening for printing.


> It seems I would have to reload the brush some toward the end of the 
> sheet


It _must_ be done in one smooth long stroke, just the same way that the 
sizing is done. Load up the brush, then when you start your stroke move 
fairly quickly. As you move down the length of the sheet and the water 
is released from the brush, gradually slow down so the brush spends a 
longer time in each place. Getting just the right 'deceleration' in the 
movement is difficult, and you can easily end up with paper tinted 
strongly at one end and weakly at the other. But then again, maybe that 
long gradation could be attractive!

***

Carol wrote:

> How did you attach the actual paper?


For all the normal fairly small prints, I did it with small clear 'photo 
corners', the same way that I mount the prints in the Albums themselves. 
For the two large prints on the wall, they are lightly pasted (with 
rice) at the top corners - I will 'wash' this off later ...

Dave


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From: "Ramsey Household" <cjramsey#mind.net>
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 18:49:43 -0800
Subject: [Baren 20538] Re: Update 

Have you tried dipping your fingers in baby powder to keep away the smudges?
It really helps.  I first learned to do it in lithography.

Carolyn Ramsey
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "G Wohlken" <blueman#pantek.com>
To: <baren#ml.asahi-net.or.jp>
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 12:24 PM
Subject: [Baren 20518] Update



> Hanga report! Hanga report!  :-)
>
> I found some  sheets of  shin torinoko in the drawer (left from my
> spider print) and practiced today on it.  My, but that Akua color is
> strongly pigmented.  The black sumi didn't cover it well the first time
> and the sumi took on a brownish hue which was too much in the family of
> the color in the background, but then when I did a second printing of
> the black, it covered very well, but I  felt it was too black, too
> opaque,  so now I'm thinking of a layer of something else first, and a
> soft layer of "blackish" over it might look better.  I'm not sure about
> that.  The layering is kind of fun.  I'm making a mess.  Ink gets on my
> fingers for every print, and it gets on the edges of the paper no matter
> what I do.  Also, my kentos are off.  Yet, on some of the sheets of
> paper, it lines up better.  The only thing I can figure out is that
> because the paper was torn rather than cut, some of the inconsistencies
> in the tearing is making it fit on the kentos in an odd way.  Plus I
> probably (knowing me) cut the kentos  imperfectly.
>
> Also, I sent an email to Woodlike Matsumura about the "New Hosho" paper.
>  The answer came and  it seems the paper is sized on both sides, and
> that the shiney side is actually the back, and the smooth, duller side
> is the carefully sized side, and it is the side to print on. So all you
> people who said "smooth side" were right!
>
> I washed my hands a lot today to get the extra ink off between prints,
> and now my hands look as dry as they do when I use oil based ink and
> scrub that ink off with grainy soap.
>
> My muscles ache and I'm a little tired and I had a tiny tiny glass of
> cognac (I love that word), and tomorrow is another day.
>
> And thank you, fellow bareners and shopkeepers off list who've offered
> moral support and advice.
>
> Gayle in Ohio
>
>


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From: Barbara Mason <barbaramason45#yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 21:12:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 20539] busy day 



what a lot of messages on baren today! I leave for one day and
look what happens!

Dave, as always your exhibit just excites us so much. I am so
amazed at how professional and polished it looks. I just cannot
imagine one person could put this together...seems like it would
take many people many days. Congratulations of your exhibit and
we wish you much success...you know, lots of orders! Praise is
well and good but it doesn't buy rice!

Mike, your mini prints are wonderful! I hope we will see them in
Kansas City...I am getting excited about the trip...we are
renting an Alfred Hitchcock movie that has good pictures of Mt
Rushmore to get in the mood for the long drive!

Gayle, I think you should just print the tint on and then later
dampen the paper. I think this will be the easiest. When I used
to do lithography I printed lots of backgrounds and am still
using them once in awhile to overprint. I think it is very
interesting to do this, makes work look a little deeper and more
meaningful.

Happy Birthday John Amoss, It couldn't happen to a nicer guy!

Best to all,

Barbara



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