Baren Digest Friday, 3 January 2003 Volume 22 : Number 2082 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 06:38:50 -0800 Subject: [Baren 20277] Re: water based inks Charles, 'cant locate that Lascaux site! Could you tell me their web address please. Thanks, Philip ------------------------------ From: Aqua4tis#aol.com Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:24:50 EST Subject: [Baren 20278] Re: water based inks hi philip here you go Lascaux - Coulours & Restauro http://www.lascaux.ch/english/index.html georga ------------------------------ From: Mike Lyon Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 10:36:54 -0600 Subject: [Baren 20280] Re: SIGN-UP FOR EXCHANGE #16 IS OFFICIALLY OPEN !! At 06:39 PM 1/1/2003 -0200, Murilo wrote: >I have just signed-up for 16 exchange (06.36PM Brazil time) >but received answer that it was not opened yet. culd you tell me what's wrong? >Thanks. Happy New year for all. >Murilo, Brazil Dear Murilo (and others)... No, nothing is wrong! I received your #16 sign-ups just fine. I am in the middle of a week-long fast for the new year, so my mind feels clean, but it is running a bit slow (excuses, excuses)... Anyway, I goofed when I added the list of names to the sign-up page yesterday afternoon -- so the "error" message was in error -- your registration really was received and I have corrected my error on the page -- I'll update the list with the new names in a few minutes so you can check to be sure your name is really there. http://www.barenforum.org/exchange/exchange_sign-up.html Thank you for your patience, Mike Mike Lyon mailto:mikelyon#mlyon.com http://www.mlyon.com ------------------------------ From: "Robert Canaga Gallery" Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 08:51:11 -0800 Subject: [Baren 20281] Re: water based inks http://www.lascaux.ch/ Try this one. RC ------------------------------ From: "Robert Canaga Gallery" Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 08:55:30 -0800 Subject: [Baren 20282] Re: water based inks Sorry, I should have been more specific. The ref. to them is through Savoir Faire, the importer. RC ------------------------------ From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:26:09 -0600 Subject: [Baren 20283] Re: old goats & sheep Thanks to Jan T., John C. & Frank T. for sending their New Year prints, all arrived safely and in fine condition.... The exchange has been closed since 12/23 or abouts so the participants list up on the website is the final version. I will be putting up the print images on the web page as they arrive.... thanks to all and a Happy New Year for everyone.......Julio Rodriguez ------------------------------ From: "PHARE-CAMP,PATTI (HP-USA,ex1)" Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 10:34:49 -0800 Subject: [Baren 20284] RE: Baren Digest V21 #2080 AMEN MARIA! What a scam those dam historians and collectors have perpetrated on us poor artists! We are the ones with all the skill, talent and hard work, and they are the ones who get rich transferring their own psych: otic, osematic, oligical quirks into our work and writing about it or reselling it at gross profit. Luckily congress enacted legislation to protect us living artists, if a buyer resells a work at a profit, legally he/she is required to give a percentage of the sale to the artist. Of course enforcement could be an issue, how many of us can afford lawyers to keep track of what happens to a piece after we've sold it? And well, that legislation doesn't do much for the dead... As for changing paper...those same historians and collectors want us to re-edition if we change paper...but you know what? I too change paper mid-run for the same variety of reasons that Maria stated, and I don't re-edition, because rules are meant to be broken, especially bad rules! And I don't care what the "art bores" want. Of course I do have to hold down a job, but I also get to do the art I want to do any old way I want to do it and I don't have to worry about consistency of style, medium, subject matter, etc...I just experiment to my hearts content;-) As for the above art bores...that's what their theories and analysis have done to art education, made it so unbearably boring that the average schmoe sleeps through the art survey class and later in life blows his wages on a (horrors) "Kincaid" (does anyone, other than critics actually, READ "Art Today?" ...and if I have to read another "spiritual" 3 page art statement written to please the above critics...my lunch may rise...I like the way Dan Dew does, give 'em a scriptural reference and let 'em look it up for themselves, or not...in my read-so-many-statements-that-they-all-sound-alike opinion, the less said the more I get out of the work. With one exception, when we exchange prints, I really love getting write up on the process, such technical information from artist to artist helps to understand the work on a much deeper level, I think. Come to think of it, the average schmoe may think so as well! I love to read about what kinds of wood you used, what kind of inks, papers, problems you encountered and maybe resolved during the process and I bet the potential buyer would also be interested. Besides, if I were any good at writing...well heck that's a lot more lucrative than the visual arts and authors get the moola while alive, even the mediocre ones...alas I have to work with the God given talents whether they pay or not! Thank God Mom made sure I learned how to type! I hope you all have a very blessed and prosperous New Year full of new and extrawondermus ideas and inspiration! Patti P-C ------------------------------ From: "MPereira" Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 18:49:15 -0200 Subject: [Baren 20285] Re: SIGN-UP FOR EXCHANGE #16 IS OFFICIALLY OPEN !! Dear Mike, Thank you for your attention. This time (this exchange) I promise you will receive my prints in time. Best wishes and a good year to all . Murilo, Brasil. ------------------------------ From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 16:40:18 -0600 Subject: [Baren 20286] Re: Call for entries........ No..it's not what you think...but I bet I got your attention !!!! Is time to put together another Barensuji newsletter to press..... I'll be taking in articles, photos, book reviews, artist's interviews, views of your studio, views of your neighbor's backyard, new art news, old art news, ANY kind of news you want published....does not have to be formal or even speelchekd...we have a large group of dedicated folks that take care of making it all pretty for you. So come one, come all, come all ye faithful and send me your contributions off-list for the next Barensuji....... xanks.....Julio Rodriguez ps...deadline...up or about 01/15/03 ----------------------------- From: Mike Lyon Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 17:18:40 -0600 Subject: [Baren 20287] Exchange #16 almost full... At last count, there were 28 signed up for Exchange #16... Only two spots left before the waiting list begins growing -- if you want to get in on this one, you'd better hurry! http://www.barenforum.org/exchange/exchange_sign-up.html is the place! - -- Mike Mike Lyon mailto:mikelyon#mlyon.com http://www.mlyon.com ------------------------------ From: "marilynn smih" Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 18:12:04 -0800 Subject: [Baren 20288] Re: Baren Digest V21 #2080 I am a painter turned into printmaker. I used watercolor for monotypes and I used createx. both of these mix colors together beautifully on a pallette and paint like a painting onto an acrylic plate very well. I use gum arabic as a release agent. Akua Kolor is beautful pigment. I have successfully rolled it on a plate and printed it beautifully. It did not mix like paint and if you do monotypes by way of mixing colors first it will not mix as well as createx. But Akua Kolor pigment is stronger and higher in quality. For the block printer I would suggest giving Akua Kolor a try and for monotype use dish soap or glycerin as a release agent. I know this is not purely woodblock info, sorry. If you work monotypes by way of layering in colors and drawing in lines and not mixing a pigment on a pallette than you truly want Akua Kolor and Susan rostow is a lovely person who will always be very helpful. Marilynn Smith ------------------------------ From: ArtfulCarol#aol.com Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:42:50 EST Subject: [Baren 20289] Re: Baren Digest V21 #2080 Hi Several responses: 1. For a link to paper and art supplies including Savior Faire: Billfisher.dreamhost.com/supplies 2. Nancy, you ask why a person would want to change papers part-way through an edition-- Experimentation, Curiosity, Fun!! 3. Sarah, thanks for the AkuaKolor info. I have it and use it. Have I told you lately?--Happy New Year! Carol Lyons Irvington, NY ------------------------------ From: Aqua4tis#aol.com Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 22:18:21 EST Subject: [Baren 20290] Re: Akua kolor sarah which do you like better for hanga? guerra or akua color? georga ------------------------------ From: "Maria Diener (aka Arango)" Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 20:45:24 -0800 Subject: [Baren 20291] pieces here, pieces there Puzzle updates! The first brave puzzle piece that braved the seven seas has arrived to Australia! Wow, I'm very excited. Almost all the pieces have found their temporary homes now. If some of you have received your piece and have not emailed me yet, please do so and tell me the number on the back of your block. And ALL of you, thanks for playing and thank you for your notes; I apologize if I don't answer all of them individually. On yet another puzzling development, the puzzle page has been updated with photos. WARNING! If you want to keep the final design a surprise until the end, don't go look. Really the matrix should make no difference at all in your design, won't help either. http://www.1000woodcuts.com/puzzle/project.html click on photo album and go get a cup of tea if you have a slow modem/connection, many largish pictures. On an unrelated event, Vegas survived the New Year celebrations; 300,000 people from all over came to celebrate on our famed Strip. I spent the night trying to explain to the wolfie-pups that the entire world was NOT on fire and there was no need to stampede to the lake. Maria <||><||><||><||><||><||> Maria Arango Peace in 2003 Las Vegas Nevada USA www.1000woodcuts.com <||><||><||><||><||><||> ------------------------------ From: Sharri LaPierre Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 22:40:18 -0800 Subject: [Baren 20292] Re: Baren Digest V21 #2081 Today herds of Old Goats thundered into my mailbox. Thank you, John, what a nice gift and wonderful way to start the new year. Every time I go near these two critters the smell of ink causes a tremendous impulse to race to the studio and print - and then I remember my studio is torn to bits waiting for carpenters to come and finish their chores. Hopefully, that will be soon and my little goats can frolic off to mailboxes, too, but I guarantee they will not be as grand as the Furry ones. Sharri ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V22 #2082 *****************************