Baren Digest             Wednesday, 1 January 2003     Volume 22 : Number 2080


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From: "Robert Canaga Gallery" <rcg#robertcanagagallery.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 13:31:13 -0800
Subject: [Baren 20253] Re: water based inks

Hi. I have been using Lascaux screenprintingpaste(Siebdruckpaste) for  years
for blockprinting, monotype, et. al. and love it.I can use pigment on the
block, mix gouache, WC, acrylic, chalk, Sumi...any thing ws will work. It
stays open for three days on the ink plate, rolls up wonderfully, wipes
easily, cleans up with no fuss, dries on the paper in a few hours, and best
of all, is non toxic.
All my students use it now and are pushing the boundaries even further(as
students are supposed to do).
It works better than any rice paste I ever used for mixing on the block, it
wont dry out and ruin your paper with dry pulls. It is not cheep or easy to
find. Savoir Faire out of Sausalito imports it and you can get a list of
dealers who carry it.
I have prints done in Sumi as a roll up that look as good or better than
oil.
RC

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From: "nancy osadchuk" <nosadchuk#hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 15:14:22 -0700
Subject: [Baren 20254] Editioning questions again 


Back to the much discussed issue of editions, I don't recall
any mention of using a different paper part way through.
Other than not planning ahead and having enough on hand, or
deciding one doesn't like the result on a particular paper I
don't know why a person would want to change. But if they did,
does this make for a&nbsp;second state situation?  My herd
of Big Horns should be in the mail this week...have so far
received Frank Trueba's very delightful serigraph.

Happy New Year to all.......Nancy O.

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From: Cucamongie#aol.com
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 17:49:12 -0500
Subject: [Baren 20255] ink, goats etc 

Hi all, John, I am sad to say that my card from you arrived
"goatless" - perhaps some postal worker is now the proud owner of
your print! Carol, I suggest you try Susan Rostow's Akua Kolor -
it's a far superior product to Createx and you don't have to mix
any gum arabic, etc with it.  It can also be used for
monoprinting, etc.  Her website is www.waterbasedinks.com.  Of
course, to each his own, but I believe you will be happy with the
results of this ink.  If you tell her I sent you, she will most
likely be happy to send you a little sample of 4 colors or so for
you to try. Happy new year all, Sarah

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From: Cucamongie#aol.com
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 17:51:48 -0500
Subject: [Baren 20256] inks again 

ooops, sorry for the double posting, but it's short.  Charles,
you are in Canada, right?  I believe that Graham has a source for
pigment dispersions there - I have a great source for them here
in NYC in USA - contact me offline if you want that info. best
Sarah

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From: Barbara Mason <barbaramason45#yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 15:21:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 20257] Editioning questions again 


 
 Nancy, I don't think it is a second state as that denotes a
 change that is more substancial than the paper, usually a change
 in the plates....but you could note on the back of the prints
 that 1-23 were printed on hosho and 23-75 were printed on
 Yamaguchi or so on. This would be good info for collectors and
 museums to know when you are dead and famous....they want
 information....they can never have enough. I am  not the only
 voice here, what do others think about this? Should it be a
 second state? Best to all and Happy New Year Baren! Barbara




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From: "Maria Diener (aka Arango)" <maria#mariarango.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 15:51:40 -0800
Subject: [Baren 20258] RE: Editioning questions again 


Ohhh, a little spicy question to end the year...
Of course we sloppy amateurs do this all the time...too many rules spoil the
art, I dare say.
I have:
- -changed papers in mid run because I ran out and completed the edition in a
similar paper
- -changed papers many times throughout the run just to see what the print
would look like in different papers
- -made special runs of one print on hand-made paper and the rest of the
edition on standard printmaking paper
- -made one or two prints on a special paper by customer request
- -printed some of the edition in 2000 and finished the edition in 2002 in
another paper from another batch as the whim struck
In none of those cases did I make a second state or wrote anything in the
back. In no case did I have some frantic collector chase me down to demand
the "correct" paper for my print.

Collectors and museums?? when we are famous????? let me laugh a little, come
on Barbara, that's funny, let's be realistic. I'm writing on my will that
nobody other than my family will profit from my art after I am dead. Whoever
wants some can buy some now and feed the artist while the artist is alive.
All my remaining art will be destroyed upon my death by last will and
testament mandate (hey! I think I will put that on the front page of my web
site). The art world is so cruel with artists...wait until we are dead and
then have some miserly stranger go rummaging through our studios searching
for lost gems? I see on eBay all the time stuff for sale from an artist's
estate sale of some poor bastard that died destitute and now some vulture is
selling their stuff which they picked up for a dime. No, no, no, I will not
be a part of that, not now not ever, and have no desire to go down in
history as anything but a happy artist who ate while alive and made happy
puzzle prints with her friends.

Happy New Year everyone!
Maria

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     Maria Arango
  Las Vegas Nevada USA
  www.1000woodcuts.com
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From: Charles Morgan <cmorgan#uvic.ca>
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 17:05:26 -0800
Subject: [Baren 20259] Re: inks again 

Thanks, Sarah ... but it is not pigments that I need ... pigments I got ... 
I'm looking for the ideal water based medium for woodblock and metal 
plates!!! (No, that is not a mermaid psychic!!!)

Cheers ........ Charles

At 05:51 PM 12/31/02 -0500, you wrote:

>ooops, sorry for the double posting, but it's short.  Charles, you are in 
>Canada, right?  I believe that Graham has a source for pigment dispersions 
>there - I have a great source for them here in NYC in USA - contact me 
>offline if you want that info.
>best
>Sarah



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From: Charles Morgan <cmorgan#uvic.ca>
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 17:07:23 -0800
Subject: [Baren 20260] Re: water based inks 

Thanks for the tip. (1) Will the stuff roll out smoothly on metal plate? 
(2) Do you have an email address, web site, or any other contact information?

Thanks ..... Charles

At 01:31 PM 12/31/02 -0800, you wrote:

>Hi. I have been using Lascaux screenprintingpaste(Siebdruckpaste) for  years
>for blockprinting, monotype, et. al. and love it.I can use pigment on the
>block, mix gouache, WC, acrylic, chalk, Sumi...any thing ws will work. It
>stays open for three days on the ink plate, rolls up wonderfully, wipes
>easily, cleans up with no fuss, dries on the paper in a few hours, and best
>of all, is non toxic.
>All my students use it now and are pushing the boundaries even further(as
>students are supposed to do).
>It works better than any rice paste I ever used for mixing on the block, it
>wont dry out and ruin your paper with dry pulls. It is not cheep or easy to
>find. Savoir Faire out of Sausalito imports it and you can get a list of
>dealers who carry it.
>I have prints done in Sumi as a roll up that look as good or better than
>oil.
>RC



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From: slinders#attbi.com
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 19:38:41 -0600
Subject: [Baren 20261] "WHO'S THAT TRAMPING ACROSS MY BRIDGE" 

shouted the troll?  

..."it is i, the little (old) billy goat gruff!" 

"AND WHO'S  T H A T  GOING ACROSS MY BRIDGE," shouted the
troll.  

..."I T    I S   I ,  S A I D   T H E   G R E A T   B I G (old) 
B I L L Y   G O A T !

Your little and big 'old goat' selves are terrific, Furry! Thank
you so very much! ;-)  Thanks to all of you on the Baren list for your friendship, 
your patient indulgences, your humor, your knowledge, your
lovely prints, and for the time you so generously give to keep
this forum lively and informative.  Special thanks to David Bull
for the idea and action that brought Baren to it's existence
five years ago!

May this next year bring us peace, health, and time to pursue
this wonderful art form that we continue to learn together! 
Happy New Year to you all!

Sharen

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From: Aqua4tis#aol.com
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 22:23:31 EST
Subject: [Baren 20262] Re: ink, goats etc 



sarah
  is the aqua color already mixed like the guerra pigments?   have you used 
it for hanga?
   happy new year everyone!!!
georga
ps
   looks like a couple of my woodcuts will be in the next issue of the Black 
Bear Review   its a literary magazine    im happy




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From: Aqua4tis#aol.com
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 22:36:01 EST
Subject: [Baren 20264] Re: Editioning questions again 


maria
  bravo   SUPPORT LIVING ARTISTS!!!!!


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From: Mike Lyon <mikelyon#mlyon.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 22:57:49 -0600
Subject: [Baren 20265] EXCHANGE #16 SIGN-UP JAN 1 

Just a reminder that the sign-up for exchange #16 begins tomorrow (Jan 1, 
2003 at 10am Central US time)... Information and sign-up form are available at:
http://www.barenforum.org/exchange/exchange_sign-up.html

Good luck!

- -- Mike Lyon


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From: Wanda <robertson#canby.com>
Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 00:43:14 -0800
Subject: [Baren 20266] Happy New Year 

Happy New Year everyone! And thanks for a very exciting & satisfying year of
Baren's success.  It wouldn't happen without each and every one of you!  May
your year be full of successes and many good things.

Wanda


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