Baren Digest Friday, 13 December 2002 Volume 21 : Number 2058 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cucamongie#aol.com Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 08:42:09 EST Subject: [Baren 20090] April's class Dan Kitchen, if you can take April's class, I'm sure you'll enjoy it so much - - she's great! She really got me going with hanga, and we've done a bunch of shows and demos together. Go for it! Glad people are enjoying the sheep prints and I look forward to seeing what everyone comes up with. best wishes all Sarah ------------------------------ From: Bette Wappner Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 09:18:14 -0500 Subject: [Baren 20091] Re: New to the Baren Welcome Dan! How nice to hear you received your BFA in Des Moines, IA! I used to live in Des Moines as a kid, then again from 1981-1988 when I was an Art Director. Iowa is my old stomping ground. But now you're also lucky to be in an area where you're close to great Baren members' resources and knowledge for woodblock and moku hanga! Best Wishes to you, Bette Wappner northern KY/Greater Cinti,OH > From: Dan Kitchen > Reply-To: baren#ml.asahi-net.or.jp > Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:20:07 -0800 (PST) > To: baren#ml.asahi-net.or.jp > Subject: [Baren 20074] New to the Baren > > Hello All, > My name is Dan Kitchen. I have been lurking the > archive forums for a few weeks, and also explored the > site quite extensively. I am very excited about > participating. > A quick synopis of my relation to woodblock. I > have been printing for the last few years in a couple > of mediums (relief, intaglio, litho, collagraph), but > always finding myself returning to relief work. The > relation between the tools and the marks made. I > recieved my BFA in printmaking in Des Moines, IA, and > am currently working on a MFA in Long Island, NY. > Recently, I have been trying to develop a studio > practice in my home that involves relief printmaking. > > I am also fascinated about learning moku hanga and > water based inks, and am trying to slowly pick up > things here and there. I am hoping of picking up a > workshop in NYC, for instance. > The other day I was working on a sculpture using MDF > fiber board. I tried cutting it with my print chisels > and tools and it cut very smoothly and easily. I am > working on a print matrix using MDF. My only worry is > perhaps it will be too soft to hold under printing. I > thought as long as I was introducing myself to the > group I would ask if anyone has tried MDF or other > fiberboards for printing, and if they had worthwhile > results? > Excited to be involved. > > Dan Kitchen > xweave#yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Gillyin Gatto" Date: Mon, 27 Aug 1956 08:48:56 -0700 Subject: [Baren 20092] speedy cut hi Louise I have used "speedy cut" for 2nd-4th graders to introduce them to tools and carving but it is SO soft it is difficult to get a sharp line no integrity to the stuff but great for little kids if its speed and ease you seek- why not just used regular lino ? which is soft enough but still will hold fine lines am enjoying the late trickling horses and the early bird sheep/goats thanks to all gillyin in maine ------------------------------ From: "Cynthia S. Bendix" Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 08:58:15 -0800 Subject: [Baren 20093] Re: New to the Baren Welcome Dan, Hi everyone. What is MDF. Is it also called "chip board?" I'm wondering if it is a similar product to 3M's mounting board? Sounds interesting. I am currently fiddling around with thin craft foam cut into shapes and glued to masonite. I've also been cutting woodblocks (a self portrait-scary) and am frustrated with the amount of "ink" (water mixable oil paint) that the block is "drinking." I can't seem to get enough ink on this wood (a plywood with a poplar top- I think) to get a deep black-I'm using fairly hard paper though (it was free!) Have also been revisiting linoleum and using oven cleaner (caustic soda) to etch line and textures onto my block. Very nice, but scary stuff to use. I have alot of pets, so I take it outside in a contained box to spray and leave to etch. Time to go to work. Bye Thea ------------------------------ From: Chelsea391#aol.com Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 12:10:25 EST Subject: [Baren 20094] Re: Baren Digest V21 #2057 In a message dated 12/12/02 8:00:59 AM, owner-baren#ml.asahi-net.or.jp writes: << we are about 17 short to make a full 100 on the BarenMap...so if you have not posted to the map...do it now and help meet our goal. >> Hi Folks. I've been out and about and not writing, but storing up all the wonderful technical tips and conversations about why we do art that have filled the Forum for months. Julio, I can access the map and navigate around it but it won't let me post, so please add me in : Janet Hollander in Jersey City, NJ. I'm working on my hanga print for exchange 15 but struggling to clarify the image: struggling about whether to keep the world out or let it in. The things I've cared about in image-making feel provincial in the light of what feels like a dark and frightening time. That's all I'll say: Keep cutting and see what happens. Hi April. I was out of town for the LESP print party. I bet it was wonderful. Janet ------------------------------ From: Sharri LaPierre Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 12:38:30 -0800 Subject: [Baren 20095] Re: Baren Digest V21 #2057 Dan, April is right - you do have a great name. Any relation to Helen Kitchen? Sharri ------------------------------ From: "Cynthia S. Bendix" Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 19:03:30 -0800 Subject: [Baren 20096] Re: speedy cut THea here, I've been using speedy cut with success (I think?) for over a year now. I'm able to get great sweeping curves and best yet, a double tone on my paper (because the block is so squishable) of black and grey right beside the black. This has give me a curious and lovely depth of field. However, I really like to experiment in printmaking rather than edition my stuff ,so I'm not sure how reproducable this effect is over time. For those of you who were interested in the printathon week of printmaking workshop, I am forwarding an e-mail from Debby Neely regarding times and dates etc. Happy printing! Thea: Thanks for contacting me regarding the woodblock classes. I will be teaching the following this summer: 1) Menucha: second week of Aug 10-16. The class will cover many different types of relief and intaglio print making with an emphasis on experimental and combined methods. The Hanga method will be included. You can contact: Creative Arts Community PO Box 4959 Portland, OR 97208 (503) 281-2204 email: info#creativeartscommunity.org www.creativeartscommunity.org ------------------------------ From: "Lee and Barbara Mason" Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 20:55:23 -0800 Subject: [Baren 20097] interesting couple of weeks I have a something to share.....heart warming story to follow, read at your own risk.... The Northwest Print Council is doing a pilot program with an inner city school here in Portland. The plan is that we will visit the school three times, for 8 days each time, running all 320 students from grades K-5 through our printmaking "art in the schools" program. It is a collagraph plate make on a piece of mylar (dontate by Dan Welden of Solar plate, we only pay shipping on the plastic). The image is built up with office stickers and tape. The smaller children use only the stickers and the colored ones are the favorites. We used $95 worth of stickers in 8 days. You can see the process if you go to www.printmakersonline.com and click on watersoluble monotypes. We buy the artist tape at a 20% discount at our local Art Media store. The children are so cute but this school has 85% single parent families. They were all so excited to make the prints, it is a two day process. They make the plates the first day and see the demonstration on the printing, then the second day they see the demonstration again and do the printing. On the printing day we have several artist volunteers as well as a few parent volunteers to help. We give the children a roller loaded with ink letting them chose from 8 colors of speedball ink. They roll the ink on their plates. We print on damp Rives lightweight paper which we buy at a great price from Graphic Chemical. Dean has also offered us Speeball ink and as soon as we run out of our current supply we will be going to him hat in hand asking for that promised ink. One little first grader, rolling ink on his plate with huge enthusiasm, said "this is my bestest day ever" and we heard from the special reading teacher that one of her students started crying in the middle of his reading class because he thought he was missing the printmaking by going to reading. These children have no art teacher and no organized art curriculum. When you see the school it is obvious the teachers are trying hard but are a little overwhelmed just working the academics into their classes and art is not their priority. So I gave 8 days of my time and made a huge difference in the lives of 320 kids. It was so much fun and I am just exhausted. Maybe I am too old for this.... We hope to see the imagery and the inking ability of the children develop by the third visit and hope to use the documentation from this school to secure funding to expand the program to other schools. Without paying the artists and buying things at a discount, it still costs us $1 a child to run this program. We hope to get a grant and actually pay the artists, a novel idea! What a high, I love printmaking and I can tell you, we have 320 little kids who will love it almost as much by the end of the school year. This almost seems like a Christmas story, but has nothing to do with Christmas....maybe it is just that goodwill stuff..... I was in Walgreens buying more "stars" to stick on the plates and a little girl with long red hair ran up and grabbed me around the knees with a hug and said "you were at my school"....... It was just great! Best to all, Barbara ------------------------------ From: Charles Morgan Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 17:30:43 -0800 Subject: [Baren 20098] Re: New to the Baren Chip board, as I know it, is also called "oriented strand board" or OSB. It consists or fairly large chips of wood (about the size of a 50cent piece) glued together in a matrix ... comes in various thicknesses, typically 4 x 8 foot sheets. Is a nightmare to carve ... not recommended. MDF, for medium density fiber board, is sometimes known as "particle board". There are no discernible chips of wood on normal inspection. It is more like fine sawdust bonded in a matrix ... comes in various thicknesses, typically 4 x 8 foot sheets. You can cut 1/4 inch MDF into shapes and then glue it to masonite or other hard backing ... makes fine relief prints. If your block is absorbing too much ink, try sealing it with some sort of penetrating sealer, like thinned urethathane. Cheers ...... Charles At 08:58 AM 12/12/02 -0800, you wrote: >Welcome > Dan, > >Hi everyone. >What is MDF. Is it also called "chip board?" I'm wondering if it is a >similar product to 3M's mounting board? Sounds interesting. I am >currently fiddling around with thin craft foam cut into shapes and glued >to masonite. >I've also been cutting woodblocks (a self portrait-scary) and am >frustrated with the amount of "ink" (water mixable oil paint) that the >block is "drinking." I can't seem to get enough ink on this wood (a >plywood with a poplar top- I think) to get a deep black-I'm using fairly >hard paper though (it was free!) >Have also been revisiting linoleum and using oven cleaner (caustic soda) >to etch line and textures onto my block. Very nice, but scary stuff to >use. I have alot of pets, so I take it outside in a contained box to >spray and leave to etch. >Time to go to work. Bye >Thea ------------------------------ From: FurryPressII#aol.com Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 04:25:18 EST Subject: [Baren 20099] Re: interesting couple of weeks ;-) ^5 john ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V21 #2058 *****************************