Baren Digest              Friday, 29 November 2002      Volume 21 : Number 2044


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From: <Philip238#copper.net>
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 06:15:34 -0800
Subject: [Baren 19999] Re: announcement 

Congratulations Barbara,
Having a grandchild is a MOST wonderful experience. A delight. And at
Christmas time you have that one very special person you, and you alone, can
spoil only as a grandparent can.
Best of luck,
Philip
Hammond, OR
USA

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From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 08:50:14 -0600
Subject: [Baren 20000] Re: announcement 11/28/2002 08:55:36 AM 

Barbara, what great news..congratulations...a new member to our ever
growing Baren family....those two names...Julia & Marie run in my family
for many generations....I am a fifth generation Julio...my wife's name is
Maria..as well as my sisters, grandmother, great aunt, great grandmother,
etc....they are very dear names to me.

Congratulations, so much to give thanks for in this special day !!!!!

Make sure you bring Julia Marie to KC....is never too early to start
printmaking {;-)

all the best to the new parents and your whole family........Julio Rodriguez



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From: Aqua4tis#aol.com
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 10:43:47 EST
Subject: [Baren 20001] Re: announcement 


barbara
   congratulations to you and your whole family    what a blessing!!
a very happy thanksgiving to you
georga


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From: "Lee and Barbara Mason" <lbmason71#attbi.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 08:09:31 -0800
Subject: [Baren 20002] shipping with glass 

When I ship work with glass, I make a box for the entire piece out of foam
core. I cut one piece that is the exact size of the front of the glass and
then put another piece over the top of that and tape all together with the
side and back pieces. This way nothing can move. I think a truck would have
to run over it to break glass packed this way. Then I wrap the whole thing
in bubble wrap, a couple of layers, then in a heavy duty box, with extra
cardboard on top and bottom. I have never had a piece of glass broken packed
this way and it is easy to unwrap and leaves no marks on the frame or the
glass, no tape to remove, just to cut away. Use plastic tape or strapping
tape, do not use masking tape or artist's tape. Both will break in shipping,
plastic tape will never break, it just sort of gives with stress. If you
dropped a piece packed this way, I swear it would just bounce! I have
shipped work all over like this, to shows clear across the country. The
important thing is to have lots of padding, several layers of bubble wrap,
the large bubbles, over the foam core "package". I have seen whole shipments
of work in a wooden crate shipped in only bubble wrap and nothing broken,
but I think my foam core package is a double safety. Those guys in Chicago
at UPS drop stuff off a conveyor into a box and it falls about 6
feet........
Actually I do not know this for sure...it is one of those ugly rumors passed
around by Fed Ex.
Best to all,
Barbara

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From: Charles Morgan <cmorgan#uvic.ca>
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 08:34:13 -0800
Subject: [Baren 20003] Re: Baren map 

Could they be the Christmas Carols????

Let's see ....

"Here comes Santa Clause ...."
"Oh, Holy night ..."
"Away in a manger ..."

Sorta tells a story, doesn't it ????

Cheers ....... Charles

At 09:03 PM 11/27/02 -0800, you wrote:

>Now that we have three Carols on the
>forum, maybe it is mas importante that we identify ourselves by location?



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From: Wanda <robertson#canby.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 09:21:06 -0800
Subject: [Baren 20004] Re: goats & sheep 

on 11/27/02 10:04 AM, Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com at
Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com wrote:


> so....goats & sheep are ok.........
> http://www.skokienet.org/bandits/jcrstuff/blacksheep/
> 
> thanks.........Julio Rodriguez
> 

As someone who raises a few sheep & knows a few goats (old ones) there are
goats who look like sheep & sheep who look like goats!  If you are
interested in taking a look at different breeds of sheep & goats - go to:
http://www.ansi.okstate.edu/breeds/sheep/

As you can see, there are 2 varieties of sheep - hair sheep & wool sheep,
which further confuses the situation.

and then, for goats, go to:
http://www.ansi.okstate.edu/breeds/goats/

By the way, go to Border Leicesters in the wool sheep category to see what
my sheep look like.

I used to think those white sheep in the Rocky Mts were "Mountain Goats" but
I learned later they are called Dahl Sheep!  And, one of my friends raises
hair sheep - which everyone in the neighborhood calls goats, because they
have no wool. :-)

So, use your artistic license & make them look like whatever you want -
chances are, there is a breed of goat or sheep that looks exactly like that.

Wanda


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From: "marilynn smih" <marilynnsmih#hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 10:40:53 -0800
Subject: [Baren 20005] Re: Baren Digest V21 #2042 

As one who has studied painting and comes from that background to this 
printmaking venue thanks to David Bull.  Putting a touch of sumi in each 
color to make them all work better together makes wonderful sense.  Mixing 
color is a life time of learning.
HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL
Marilynn Smith
Nahcotta, Washington



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From: Sharri LaPierre <Barebonesart#attbi.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 12:38:35 -0800
Subject: [Baren 20006] Re: Baren Digest V21 #2042 

Carol,
I probably said something about attending a Solarplate workshop put on 
by the NWPC with Anthea Bosenberg from Australia.  It was the second one 
I've done, the first being with Dan Weldon, also sponsored by the NWPC.  
It is a fascinating process, and I'm anxious to put it together with 
woodblock - but, alas, haven't found time to experiment, yet.  Now it 
probably won't happen until after the holidays.

Happy Holidays, everyone :-)

Julio,
thanks for Greg's email address, but its the same one I have.  I guess 
he's too busy to answer.

Sharri


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