Baren Digest Wednesday, 20 November 2002 Volume 21 : Number 2033 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Myron Turner Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 07:10:58 -0600 Subject: [Baren 19876] Re: Baren Digest V21 #2030 I've also asked to be on it but my name hasn't appeared yet. At 11:03 PM 18/11/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Julio, I would love to be in the goat,sheep exchange but I can't access the >list to see if I'm on it. Please let me know. Ruth ------------------------------ From: Shireen Holman Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 08:37:58 -0500 Subject: [Baren 19877] Re: sheep, etc That's great, Sarah. I'm also going to be in the show with an artist's book of woodcuts. I hope to meet you there! Also Barbara, I'll look for your print if you can't come! Shireen At 08:06 PM 11/18/02 -0500, Sarah wrote: >I just got some good news, I'll have one of my solarplate prints in the >Boston Printmakers American Print Biennial, which is the site of the >opening reception for SGC. I don't know if I'll be there in person, we'll >see... Anyone else going to be in this show? >best wishes all, >Sarah *********************************************** Shireen Holman, Printmaker and Book Artist email: shireenh#earthlink.net http://www.shireenholman.com *********************************************** ------------------------------ From: Mike Lyon Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 10:25:51 -0600 Subject: [Baren 19878] Re: help At 11:44 AM 11/16/2002 -0800, Barbara wrote: >So I used a piece of damp tableau, printed it and immediately glued it down >with rice paste. In the middle of the night I visuaized everything drying >and the paper and glue ripping the plate apart... Generally speaking, the 'plate' is stronger than the 'paper' :-) Traditionally, the hanshita's were printed from the carved key block (printing the corner and edge registration carved into the key block as well as the image) and then pasted to the additional color blocks -- that way all the blocks and images behave the same registration during printing is 'dead on' even with 20 or more blocks... - -- Mike Mike Lyon mailto:mikelyon#mlyon.com http://www.mlyon.com ------------------------------ From: "Lee and Barbara Mason" Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 08:48:34 -0800 Subject: [Baren 19879] CD and video Ah Ha!!!!! Just hold on to it until we decide what we are going to do...not to worry, we will start sending it again soon. Barbara > im the culprit as far as michael schneiders cd is concerned im so >sorry i have it and if youll let me know where to send it i will get >it in the mail > georga ------------------------------ From: "Lee and Barbara Mason" Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:01:38 -0800 Subject: [Baren 19880] help Thanks, Mike. I did realize I was over reacting in my fear, but what kind of a teacher just wings it like this? Guess that's how you make up new processes. I did print the kento, of course. So at least it should line up and they are all using my Kento knife to make the cuts so it should be accurate. I don't even want to think about making 20 blocks of anything. I watched the tape Dave had going around, I found it when I cleaned my office and felt bad I had had it for months. It was wonderful to see Dave again, almost like a real visit. The carving is amazing and I loved seeing him holding the knives and how he steadies them with his other hand. I will not live long enough to get good at this, but sure is fun trying. I was impressed with the wonderful wooden blocks. The all shina plywood is good, but that real wood looked lushious. Best to all, Barbara > Generally speaking, the 'plate' is stronger than the 'paper' :-) > > Traditionally, the hanshita's were printed from the carved key block > (printing the corner and edge registration carved into the key block as > well as the image) and then pasted to the additional color blocks -- that > way all the blocks and images behave the same registration during printing > is 'dead on' even with 20 or more blocks... > -- Mike ------------------------------ From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 11:09:41 -0600 Subject: [Baren 19881] Re: Sheep..... 11/19/2002 11:14:51 AM Ruth Leaf was added to the list last week, but I still have to add Myron Turner & Elizabeth Atwood. I only update the list when I get a handful of new signups. Signup is open until 12/21/02. I will get an updated list up tonight after 10:00pm CST. http://www.skokienet.org/bandits/jcrstuff/blacksheep/ thanks...Julio Rodriguez (Skokie, Illinois) ------------------------------ From: Lezle Williams Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:53:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Baren 19882] Re: Baren Digest V21 #2032 Any and all are welcome -- with a little advance notice. My husband is still living in South Dakota until the end of the school year (teaches at the university), so there is plenty of room in both houses. I think half the reason he stayed is so I will have done all the work myself and everything will be done when he gets here next summer! :) Anyway, I just bought some new wood and am headed back to the studio and away from the house projects - for a little while... >From: Pgiclas#aol.com >Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 22:56:51 EST >Subject: [Baren 19871] Re: address > >Lezle: You've done a great job with the remodeling - it never ends, does it? >Your new house is not too far from where I grew up! I get to Albuquerque a >couple of times a year or more to see my sister so I'll give you a call next >time I'm there and maybe we can get together. Patsy > > >Lezle Williams >Laughing Crow Studio >http://www.laughingcrow.org ------------------------------ From: Aqua4tis#aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:41:36 EST Subject: [Baren 19883] Re lezles home lezles wow!!!! everything looks wonderful and so impressive makes me want to do more work on my house i love the way youve painted the walls too it looks so inviting great job georga - ------------------------------ From: Arafat Alnaim Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 11:14:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Baren 19884] Re: Woodcuts Bulgaria Dear Carol, Methods and means for creating new forms of relief printmaking was a theme of PHD research that I have completed in the National Art Academy in Sofia, Bulgaria. In this research I included the technical and artistic achievements of more than more than 55 artists from different parts of the world including Bulgaria. Please inform me what kind of information that you are looking for to help you. I have published some information about woodblock in Bulgarian printmaking on 'Baren-Suji newsletter No. 1 (http://www.barenforum.org/newsletter/issue01/issue01.html) or to Maria Arango web site (http://www.printmakingstudio.com/bulgaria/bulgariawoodcuts.html). I hope this could be useful. If you need more information contact me. Arafat Al-Naim National Art Academy Sofia, Bulgaria - --- ArtfulCarol#aol.com wrote: > Hi , > Does anyone out there know of woodblocks in > Bulgaria? Yes, Bulgaria. > Thank you > Carol Lyons > Irvington, NY ------------------------------ From: JennWint#aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:46:43 EST Subject: [Baren 19885] Posting for Baren Hi everyone! I just joined baren. My name is Jenn and I've been doing woodblock prints for 6 years now. Unfortunately, I'm still getting a webpage together so you can't really see what I do-yet. You guys were talking about some videos of other printmakers in Japan. That sounds really informative. How can I get my hands on some of that stuff? I kind of do my printmaking in a vaccum since I don't know anyone else who does it but I'm excited to learn more from being a part of the forum. Jenn ------------------------------ From: Aqua4tis#aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:50:36 EST Subject: [Baren 19886] Re: Posting for Baren hi jenn and welcome!!! where are you posting from? baren seems to have members everywhere :-) georga ------------------------------ From: Daniel Dew Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 15:24:21 -0500 Subject: [Baren 19887] Re: Posting for Baren Welcome Jenn, where are you from? Daniel L. Dew Suncoast Equipment Funding Corporation http://www.dandew.com/ ddew#tampabay.rr.com > From: JennWint#aol.com > Reply-To: baren#ml.asahi-net.or.jp > Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:46:43 EST > To: baren#ml.asahi-net.or.jp > Subject: [Baren 19885] Posting for Baren > > Hi everyone! > > I just joined baren. My name is Jenn and I've been doing woodblock prints > for 6 years now. Unfortunately, I'm still getting a webpage together so you > can't really see what I do-yet. You guys were talking about some videos of > other printmakers in Japan. That sounds really informative. How can I get > my hands on some of that stuff? I kind of do my printmaking in a vaccum > since I don't know anyone else who does it but I'm excited to learn more from > being a part of the forum. > Jenn ------------------------------ From: Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:54:41 -0800 Subject: [Baren 19888] Address?? Yes Jenn tell us all where you are from. Black Forest or some little town in the Mojave Desert. Welcome to the group. Ask your questions away, there's lot's of help here and some really small people with lot's of answers. Be well, Philip Hammond, OR USA ------------------------------ From: Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:58:31 -0800 Subject: [Baren 19889] small people? ER.....that's SMART people. Obviously I'm not one of them. Philip ------------------------------ From: Aqua4tis#aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 18:04:58 EST Subject: [Baren 19890] Re: small people? i dont know phillip we miight have some leprehcans and elves in this group :-) georga ------------------------------ From: Milky Scarabs Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 16:35:44 -0700 Subject: [Baren 19891] you can be in exchange #15! we have room in exchange #15 for you! i'm seeking four more applicants. the first one person to email me directly will get a prize-- an instant spot in the genuine exchange #15, reserved in his/her name! the next three people to email me directly will receive coveted places on the waitlist! my email is milkyscarabs#earthlink.net ... i look forward to hearing from you! :D - -- love <3 & lint * ! kat pukas, exchange #15 coordinator http://home.earthlink.net/~milkyscarabs ------------------------------ From: Mike Lyon Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 17:53:05 -0600 Subject: [Baren 19892] Japanese Papermaking Did you know that the hosho paper we usually use for traditional Japanese printmaking is made from the fibers from the inner bark of young trees? The bark is stripped around this time of year (November) from year-old branches (cut from decade old stumps) of mulberry (kozo)? The branches are steamed, the bark is stripped off, the dark outer bark is scraped off, what's left is soaked and cleaned and picked over and then cooked with sodaash (or other alkalis) washed, beaten, mixed with mucous-like formation aid (from pounding and soaking another plant, tororo-aoi), formed by screening into sheets, carefully couched (laid one delicate, fat, wet sheet upon the next), allowed to drain and de-water very slowly over a day or two, then parted and peeled one sheet at a time from the pack and brushed onto boards (or heated stainless steel) to dry... Well, that's the short course, and I admit that I (sorta) knew about some of this stuff before last weekend, but feel that I really "GET IT" now for the first time... A few weeks ago my wife, Linda, and I visited Baren member Frank Trueba in Santa Cruz (see show and tell at http://www.barenforum.org/messageboard/guestbook.html ) where Frank was busily making paper (VERY western style)... It was pretty darned interesting (and stinky)! So last weekend while we were traveling to and from Cozumel, Mexico, I read Timothy Barrett's 1983 "Japanese Papermaking". Wow. WOW !! What a wonderful description of Barrett's (now Adjunct Associate Professor Barrett at the University of Iowa's School of Art and Art History http://www.uiowa.edu/~art/faculty/art_studio/barrett/barrett.html ) two year paper making stint in Japan in the late 1970's... The book has wonderful illustrations of paper making, many photographs, detailed drawings and descriptions of traditional tools and techniques, suggestions for growing in North America, and on and on... Wonderful anecdotes of Japan, including one which sticks in my mind of Barrett watching two 90-year-olds pound steaming kozo sticks in preparation for stripping the bark -- an activity these normally frail individuals undertook with youthful gusto... The same activity in the same house at the same time of year for 85 consecutive years. The book is as much a description of traditional Japanese culture and its very different standard than our typical western and commercial one. If you're interested in Japanese technique printmaking, then I can't recommend this book to you highly enough. It's out of print now, but can be found ($$$!) used --OR-- I bet you can find a copy easily enough at your friendly neighborhood public library. It'll give you a renewed appreciation of our most important printmaking material !! - -- Mike Mike Lyon mailto:mikelyon#mlyon.com http://www.mlyon.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 16:04:14 -0800 Subject: [Baren 19893] Re: small people? To be sure georga. I think I'm one of them. Philip ------------------------------ From: ArtfulCarol#aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 19:08:52 EST Subject: [Baren 19894] Re: Woodcuts Bulgaria Dear Arafat, Thank you for responding and so quickly!! Several people sent me information including marvelous Maria who I have met in my travels. I spent time looking at the print Bulgaria site that she has and I am glad the there is a history of relief printing there. Baren is wonderful in providing an art network. My husband is looking into working in Bulgaria for a few months and I wanted to see if there was anything for me to do there in the woodblock community . This is all only in the possibility stage. For more than 20 years I have been doing experimental work in art, so when I started woodblock printing 5 years ago that was what I continued. Among my methods are composing in a square, printing on both sides of very thin paper, superimposing , and turning the paper. You can imagine that the variations are infinite and it is exciting to discover the most elegant images. Do you have a Web site? I would like to see your work and also read your PhD thesis. Some of my experimental work including woodcuts are here: http://www.rst-art.com/artfulcarol.htm Carol Lyons Irvington, NY ------------------------------ From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 18:09:22 -0600 Subject: [Baren 19895] Re: small people? 11/19/2002 06:14:31 PM I think Phillip was referring to all those little tiny people on the BarenMap....right ? Only seventeen spots left on the map....don't be left out! http://pub15.bravenet.com/guestmap/view.php?usernum=1239044438 Great photos Mike, Frank, et al.......thanks for sharing the papermaking adventures. Lezle, great work on the houses, put me down for a visit on or about September 2004 .....how's the weather don there in September ? Julio ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V21 #2033 *****************************