Baren Digest              Tuesday, 29 October 2002      Volume 21 : Number 2010


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From: "carolwagner" <carolwagner#softcom.net>
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:10:23 -0800
Subject: [Baren 19670] Conditioning brushes and other 

Dear bareners and barenesses,

 this is a humble request for guidance from a neophyte. Having acquired some
beautiful horse hair Maru bake from McClain's (and yes, I know, I know! I
should have gotten them from the Baren Mall because then they would have
already been singed and properly prepared for printing) and find I am dire
need of a clearer understanding of how to prepare them. I also ordered a
"Dragon skin, not really wanting to deal with sharkskin, and Alex sent me a
sheet of instructions. I also have Rebecca Salter's book. My problem lies
with what appears to be conflicting instruction/suggestions;
The McClain's instructions say" DO NOT SOAK THE BRUSH IN WATER',  while
Salter says soaking a new brush in water for about an hour because the hair
may be brittle and break when drawn over the Dragon skin. McClain's says to
"just dip the brush quickly in and out of the water very quickly".
Is there a contradiction here or am I just missing something that would be
very obvious to some of you who have done this procedure?

Awaiting light in Sacramento!
Carol W



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From: "Lee and Barbara Mason" <lbmason71#attbi.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:49:31 -0800
Subject: [Baren 19671] Conditioning brushes and other 

Carol,
I don't think you should ever soak brushes in water as if they get wet up
into the ferrule the hairs can rot if not properly dried. Others will have
more info as I am a novice also...I remember just dipping them in water at
boot camp. There must be info on this in the encyclopedia. I will look for
it and send it on if I find it. You can trim them with scissors also but it
is harder to get the shape , you have to be very careful.
Barbara

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From: Frank Trueba <ftrueba#cats.ucsc.edu>
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:07:34 -0800
Subject: [Baren 19672] Re: New year cards...website for sheep!!!! 

Thanks Julio and Maria for helping to keep this annual
traditional alive and acessible.

The New Year exchange is always great--it's the gift
that keeps on giving all year round (literally, in some cases).

Before we get carried away with sheep, remember that it's
technically the year of the goat (sheep are ok by me), just
didn't want folks to get confused.

frank


At 12:03 PM 10/27/2002 -0600, you wrote:


>The site with the participants names is now up. Please remember signup is
>open till 12/21 so save this link and keep checking the
>site for new names till then. If you want in or I left your name out, send 
>me an email with your name & address and
>I will add you to the list.
>
>http://www.skokienet.org/bandits/jcrstuff/blacksheep/
>
>thanks...Julio Rodriguez



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From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:22:26 -0600
Subject: [Baren 19673] Re: Conditioning brushes and other 10/28/2002 12:27:06 PM 

Here are some tips on preparing brushes.....

http://barenforum.org/encyclopedia/entries/001_15/001_15_frame.html

and from Hiroshi Yoshida's book

http://www.woodblock.com/encyclopedia/entries/011_07/chap_3b.html

thanks..Julio Rodriguez



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From: Brian <bel451#yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:00:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 19674] Re: Conditioning brushes and other 


Soaking is indeed bad for the ferrule and the handle itself.  
Especially as you are heating the brush a lot and it is wet and this 
can cause the wood to split rather badly.  On the other hand, part of 
the goal of conditioning is to split the hairs and so cutting the shape 
with a pair of sissors isn't going to do the trick there.  But on the 
whole it isn't nearly as hard as, say, recovering a baren! :-)
    
    - Brian -
 

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From: Shireen Holman <shireenh#earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:11:05 -0500
Subject: [Baren 19675] Re: Baren Digest V21 #2005 

I'm also planning to go to the SGC conference. Hope to see others there!
Shireen

At 08:02 PM 10/26/02 -0400, John wrote:

>I hope to see some Baren folks at the SGC conference in Boston April 2-5th.
>Anyone got plans?
>
>-John


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From: Myron Turner <mturner#Ms.UManitoba.CA>
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:29:55 -0600
Subject: [Baren 19676] Re: New year cards: sheep vs goats 

Someone suggested that this was the year of the goat coming up.  Last year 
I participated in a Year of the Horse exchange with printmakers from China. 
This year we are exchanging sheep.  I hope those poor folks in China know 
that they've steered us all wrong this year!

Myron Turner


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From: slinders#attbi.com
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:16:55 -0600
Subject: [Baren 19677] Fresno Museum help? 

Teresa Diaz at the Fresno (California) Metropolitan Museum
wants to borrow material for a print making exhibit sometime in
2004.

Contact her directly if you have anything you would be willing
to loan.
	
	_______________________
>"I am working on a printmaking exhibition of Lithographs,
>etchings, monotypes, woodcuts, etc.-- fine arts practically.
>
>I am looking for table presses, or objects and materials used
>for the production of prints.  Our objective is to show printing
>processes and examples of all of them.
>
>If you have any leads around this area, please do let me know."
>
>Thank you,
>
>Teresa Diaz de Doyle
>Chief Curator
>Fresno Metropolitan Museum
><teresad#fresnomet.org> 					
    __________________________

Sharen

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From: slinders#attbi.com
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:30:42 -0600
Subject: [Baren 19678] Re: New year cards: sheep vs goats 

Japanese:<http://japanese.about.com/library/weekly/aa100498.htm> 
<http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~syuLove/nenga.htm>

Chinese:
<http://qi-journal.com/action.lasso?-Token.SearchID=Astrology%20and%20Zodiac&-Response=culture.asp>

Myron, I haven't seen "the year of the goat" anywhere.  Most
places I've searched have listed it as the year of the sheep.  I
expect that your group is doing well!

Sharen

 Last year

> I participated in a Year of the Horse exchange with printmakers from China.
> This year we are exchanging sheep.  I hope those poor folks in China know
> that they've steered us all wrong this year!
> 
> Myron Turner


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From: Frank Trueba <ftrueba#cats.ucsc.edu>
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:30:43 -0800
Subject: [Baren 19679] Re: New year cards: sheep vs goats 

Myron, Sharen, et.al,

How about either for our cards?

Below are just a few sites that call 2003 the Year of the Goat
(and some sites I've seen say Year of Sheep/Goat or Goat/Sheep).

frank

http://www.chinatoday.com/culture/zodiac/zodiac.htm
http://www.paulnoll.com/China/Zodiac/zodiac-sheep-pic.html
http://www.babycrazy.net/YearGoat.htm
http://www.chinavoc.com/zodiac/goat/year.asp
http://www.pacoin.com/coins/modernissue/china/1991goat/goat.html
http://www.opengroup.com/oabooks/000/0007131496.shtml


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From: "Robert Canaga Gallery" <rcg#robertcanagagallery.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:37:50 -0800
Subject: [Baren 19680] Re: New year cards...website for sheep!!!! 

Hi, I had some email problems and did not see the "sheep" card mail. Could
you tell me about it? Sizes, rules, or lack there of???
Thanks
Robert Canaga

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From: Myron Turner <mturner#Ms.UManitoba.CA>
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:45:56 -0600
Subject: [Baren 19681] Re: New year cards: sheep vs goats

Thanks for all these astrological web sites.  I always knew that I was 
imaginative, charming, intellectual, sincere. . . .

In answer to Frank's question--would it be o.k. to do the goat, as opposed 
to the sheep?

Myron



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