Baren Digest Sunday, 15 September 2002 Volume 20 : Number 1958 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Bull Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 23:18:02 +0900 Subject: [Baren 19157] Interesting Hasui watercolour and print ... I suppose most of the people on this list won't be closely watching Japanese auction sites, so wouldn't have seen this item: http://page4.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d21151680 It's a rare chance to compare a Hasui watercolour with the resulting print. Your English browsers probably won't show the Japanese text on the page, but the three images should still come through. Three items in the auction: - - the print - - the original watercolour - - a 'kyogo-zuri' (impression from the key block) Dave ------------------------------ From: John and Jan Telfer Date: Sat, 14 Sep 02 23:07:51 +0800 Subject: [Baren 19159] Re: ACACIA wood update Dear Gillyin, ACACIA - there are many different types of Acacia trees - it is a type of wattle with beautiful fragrantly sweet little round fluffy yellow flowers in clumps all over the stems. In Australia there are numerous types. I haven't used it for woodblocks though. Maybe John Root could give you some idea on its suitability. Jan ------------------------------ From: "April Vollmer" Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 11:37:47 -0400 Subject: [Baren 19161] Acacia Jack, you are a treasure! Love the mimosa info. I never tried cutting it, but I have used acacias in my work. They have finely divided leaves that make great patterns. http://www.aprilvollmer.com/images_hanga/simpform.html http://www.aprilvollmer.com/images_hanga/radianta.html Mike thanks for the links to your interview. April P.S. I updated my website with info about my fugu coup: www.aprilvollmer.com (I made the cover of Aug 23 Science Magazine!) ------------------------------ From: Chris Bremmer Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 09:54:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Baren 19165] Using aspen for woodblocks? Hi there, I saw some very nice Aspen planks in the store the other day... very nice and clear with no knots etc. How is aspen for carving? Too soft maybe? Thanks, Chris ------------------------------ From: GraphChem#aol.com Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 15:04:52 EDT Subject: [Baren 19166] Re: bare essentials Graphic still carries the Practical Guide to Etching.....by Bannister. He was a customer for years and became good friends with my father before Bannister died. I was cleaning offices today and came across a book of his on framing and there was, I believe one on papermaking, too. The etching book sells for $7.95, and is well worth it. Dean ------------------------------ From: Pgiclas#aol.com Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 15:45:04 EDT Subject: [Baren 19167] Re: ACACIA wood update I like the local names for catclaw acacia in AZ - it's known as >wait-a-minute< bush since its thorns grab you and hold you back when you are hiking. It is known by some of the native american people as >tear-blanket bush< for the same reason! Does the asian variety also have thorns? Has anyone used the US varieties for carving? They don't get very big in diameter, but the wood has some interesting texture. Patsy ------------------------------ From: Mike Lyon Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 14:54:36 -0500 Subject: [Baren 19168] Re: Using aspen for woodblocks? Aspen is similar to poplar in characteristics. Mike At 09:54 AM 9/14/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Hi there, > >I saw some very nice Aspen planks in the store >the other day... very nice and clear with no >knots etc. > >How is aspen for carving? Too soft maybe? > >Thanks, >Chris Mike Lyon mailto:mikelyon#mlyon.com http://www.mlyon.com ------------------------------ From: Mike Lyon Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 15:03:44 -0500 Subject: [Baren 19169] Re: ACACIA wood update Acacia -- according to my lumber characteristics data base, has other names and includes: Black Locust, Honey Locust, and (I love this one) Tasmanian Blackwood! Mike At 03:45 PM 9/14/2002 -0400, you wrote: >I like the local names for catclaw acacia in AZ - it's known as > >wait-a-minute< bush since its thorns grab you and hold you back when you > are >hiking. It is known by some of the native american people as >tear-blanket >bush< for the same reason! Does the asian variety also have thorns? Has >anyone used the US varieties for carving? They don't get very big in >diameter, but the wood has some interesting texture. > >Patsy Mike Lyon mailto:mikelyon#mlyon.com http://www.mlyon.com ------------------------------ From: Myron Turner Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 16:29:27 -0500 Subject: [Baren 19170] Munakata My Munakata volume arrived from the Philadelphia Museum of Art a few days ago. A few questions came up as I was looking through the prints. 1. Many years ago I saw a Munakata show here at the Winnipeg Art Gallery and the only larger prints they showed were the male figures (from "Two Bodhisattva and Ten Great Disciples"), which are all 40 inches high and were printed from single blocks on single sheets of paper. I was wondering whether anyone knows how the monumental prints were printed. The one celebrating Beethoven's 9th was printed from 36 blocks: were these printed on 36 separate sheets and then pasted together? Or on a single sheet from a roll, in which the blocks were laid side by side? Or a combination of the two? 2. Does anyone know how the screens are constructed? Are the prints glued to a backing? Do they hang freely? In some screens the prints look as though they might be treated as though matted. Are the prints covered by, say, mylar, or thin sheets of plexi? Everything looks nice and flat in the photographs, but it's unlikely that such large sheets would be so absolutely flat unless handled in some special manner. Of course it could just be excellent lighting which eliminates any shadows which irregularities in the paper might cast. Myron Turner ------------------------------ From: "eli griggs" Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 20:29:02 -0400 Subject: [Baren 19171] Re: ACACIA wood update Hi there: Looking in myAudubon field guide I find Acacia under the Legume family. There are several here in N.A., including an asian inport, the 'Silktree' also known as a 'mimosa tree.' This family also includes Locust trees, so there may be pleanty of stuff locally to play with. Cheers, Eli Gillyin Gatto wrote on 9/12/02 6:20 pm: hi more on the acacia wood block I used for ex 14 & 14A : I looked back again at the other round blocks i have and a little sticker on the back says, "Acacia wood- handcrafted in Thailand" so perhaps i have some tropical treewood product that someone is marketing here for crafters? Sharen Linder referred me to Google for a neat pic of an ACACIA tree but i have yet to be able to get to it, thank you Sharen do we have a barener in Thailand who knows this tree? -- Gillyin ------------------------------ From: "Gillyin Gatto" Date: Mon, 27 Aug 1956 09:55:00 -0700 Subject: [Baren 19173] senjafuda/ synchronosity i found it interestingly synchronostic that just days after David introduced us to senjafuda or the small label-like prints we can now design and/or order i get a call from someone to make them - just that - ,for their farm - a label/logo- like print that they can use on all their farm products i usually dont do custom work but since she said that she has liked the carved letters i had done in solstice cards which she sees around the area on peoples walls - - i already know she likes my style of carving the difference here- is that she does not want me to print 100 but just one and they will use it as' camera ready copy' to have someone else mechanically print out labels or whatever they want i told her it was a $50 job she agreed and we will do part of it in barter blueberries for my freezer and some 30' pine 8x8 's sawn into boards downeast senjafuda ------------------------------ From: "Lee and Barbara Mason" Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 19:24:15 -0700 Subject: [Baren 19174] Interesting Hasui watercolour and print Dave, This was really interesting. I like the print much better than the watercolor. What did this sell for? Were they sold as a set? I talked to a woman this morning that just cleaned her mother's home and found a dozen prints used as shelf lining under linens in the closet. I told her to take them into the museum to see what the value of them might be, it would be a shame if they were valuable and she didn't know it. She thinks they are from the 30's. What a find. She said they were very colorful. Maybe I will see her again and get to see the prints. Best to all, Barbara > I suppose most of the people on this list won't be closely watching > Japanese auction sites, so wouldn't have seen this item: > > http://page4.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d21151680 > > It's a rare chance to compare a Hasui watercolour with the resulting > print. > > Your English browsers probably won't show the Japanese text on the page, > but the three images should still come through. > > Three items in the auction: > - the print > - the original watercolour > - a 'kyogo-zuri' (impression from the key block) > > Dave > ------------------------------ From: David Bull Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:57:19 +0900 Subject: [Baren 19175] Re: Interesting Hasui watercolour and print ... Barbara wrote: > Dave, > This was really interesting. I like the print much better than the > watercolor. What did this sell for? Were they sold as a set? The starting price is 160,000 yen (around $1350.) There are no bids yet, and eight days left to run. The three items are selling as a set, and he will not sell them separately. Dave ------------------------------ From: "Lee and Barbara Mason" Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 19:58:41 -0700 Subject: [Baren 19176] senjafuda/ synchronosity Gillyin, This is amazing, blue berries, boards and money. Quite a haul. Can't you design this on paper instead of carving it since they only want you to print one? I guess it will look different if it is printed, still it seems a lot of work for one tiny print! However, the pay looks pretty good to me! Especially the blueberries part. I love them. When I was young we used to eat them out of the freezer like they were candy. Must be why I have no cavities....heheheh. Maybe it will catch on, blueberries instead of chocolate. Barbara i told her it was a $50 job > she agreed and > we will do part of it in barter > blueberries for my freezer and > some 30' pine 8x8 's sawn into boards > downeast senjafuda ------------------------------ Archivist's note: Several messages were removed as the content was not appropriate for this forum ------------------------ End of Baren Digest V20 #1958 *****************************