Baren Digest               Saturday, 29 June 2002       Volume 19 : Number 1880


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From: "April Vollmer" <april@aprilvollmer.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:52:20 -0400
Subject: [Baren 18521] RE: Baren Digest V19 #1879 

It was good to see what Michael S. has been up to! He seems to be able to
incorporate an understanding of traditional hanga with his personal
approach. Very nice to see.

Thanks for the link. Hope you will be stopping by NYC on your way to teach.

April


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From: G Wohlken <blueman@pantek.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 10:44:32 -0400
Subject: [Baren 18522] Sacred Trees/Endangered Species 

The Sacred Trees and Endangered Species exhibit is listed here, if you'd 
like to see.  We hang the show on Tuesday.

http://www.geaugaparkdistrict.org/nature/july02.htm

Gayle
(Ohio, USA)


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From: Greg Carter <artfool@Bulloch.net>
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:08:21 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Baren 18523] What was that question again 

My original question "What is Baren" had nothing really to do with the
specifics of any one member or ex-member but was meant to direct us to the
bigger issues of how the organization has grown and does the advent of a
conference mean that the focus of the group will or should change (I am not
saying it should but it is time to have the discussion).  I believe that
Baren has a governing body that is well designed and made up of dedicated
members and their decision has been made and that is the end of that
discussion for me.

My specific question relates to my own experiences with other conferences.
I simple do not attend a conference were one has to be a member in "good
standing".  Though some require membership, there are no qualifiers to good
standing and your money is all it takes.  With most conferences, moderation
generally takes   place in not who can attend but who may present.  That is
why I do believe there are subtle difference in a group that operates
primarily in the virtual world verses the physical world and I think it is
good to discuss it.

I must stress that I believe it is important to assume (unless other wise
proven) that all points listed on Baren come from sincere members who are
here for a valid reason even if they do not agree with our own or the
majorities opinion.  One of the major changes that occurs when
organizations grow, their governing practices must grow also.  Though the
current organization is excellent for the virtual world, when groups meet
in person there must be a way for members to know that they have an equal
say in the organist ions work and the direction of the organization is
truly guided by a consensus.  I must stress again that as a member, I am
very appreciative of those that have stepped up to lead this organization
and am very thankful for the work that they provide for the organization.
It is important to be able to have this discussion on Baren with out people
thinking it is a about individual members but about the organization which
is larger than the individual members.

Sincerely,

Greg Carter




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From: "george jarvis" <gjarvis@k8.dion.ne.jp>
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 01:18:14 +0900
Subject: [Baren 18524] wa and 14a 

Regarding 'washi'.
The 'shi' is of course paper
The 'wa' means Japanese but is written with
a character which means according to my
'kojien' (the Japanese equivalent of Webster's)
'peace, harmony,  calm ,  mellow'. The name 'wa'
written with a different character is what Japan
was apparently called by the Chinese and Koreans
in early times.
The Japanese also read THAT 'wa' as 'yamato'.
(It is one of the characteristics of Japanese that
 most characters have several readings)
'Yamato' is what the Japanese called their own country. 'Yamato' was also
written with two
Chinese characters 'dai' meaning big or great
and the 'wa' that appears in 'washi'. And so the
'wa' of peace and harmony came to signify Japan.

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From: Mike Lyon <mikelyon@mlyon.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:39:49 -0500
Subject: [Baren 18525] Re: What was that question again 

 Hi, Greg!

I appreciate your ideas.  Personally, I am conceiving Baren's KC, 2003 
'Hanga Summit' to be more a "get together" than a "conference".  My ideas 
run sorta like... Bareners with desire and ability are getting together for 
a "moku-hanga" week next June in Kansas City where we can meet one another 
in person, exchange ideas and techniques, do some work, watch others work, 
show work, see work, eat, drink, be merry, and return home the richer for 
the experience.  And I want to hang out with my cyber-buddies, Dave and 
Julio and Maria and Barbara and Barbara and Wanda and April and Bea and 
Bill and so on and so on...

But those are <my> fantasies.  I'm going to go along with whatever 
consensus Bareners are able to reach.  The place in KC can't accommodate 
more than about 20 or 30 people, so as a practical matter participation is 
going to be limited -- I think we oughta do a first come, first served 
registration like we do with our exchanges?  First 20 or 30 are 'IN' and 
then we build a waiting list?

I hope your note is going to generate a lot of comment from everybody who's 
interested in attending.  So?  What do you all want this "Hanga Summit" to 
be like?

- -- Mike

At 11:08 AM 6/28/2002 -0400, Greg Carter wrote:

>My original question "What is Baren" had nothing really to do with the
>specifics of any one member or ex-member but was meant to direct us to the
>bigger issues of how the organization has grown and does the advent of a
>conference mean that the focus of the group will or should change (I am not
>saying it should but it is time to have the discussion).  I believe that
>Baren has a governing body that is well designed and made up of dedicated 
>...<snip>


Mike Lyon
mailto:mikelyon@mlyon.com
http://www.mlyon.com 

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From: "marilynn smih" <marilynnsmih@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:46:28 -0700
Subject: [Baren 18526] Re: Baren Digest V19 #1879 

Thanks for ideas on how to print a smaller plate with a larger one.  The 
husband, who knows much more than I about wood has said basswood may not be 
the best for this project.  The grain looks for all the world like a womans 
torso, minus a head, ooops.  I was thinking on a second block, larger that 
would provide a head and balance the design.
Michael I enjoyed your site as well.  Are you using sumi ink hanga style for 
some of these images?
updated list 14a, hope I spelled all names right this time:
1. Marilynn Smith, coordinator
2. Mike Lyon
3. Frank trueba
4. Gilda Zimmerling
5. Barbara Mason
6. John Center
7. Kat Pukas-undecided
8. Sharon Linder
9. Monica Bright
10. Charles Morgan
11. Eli Griggs
12. Julio Rodriquez
There is still space, so come join if you want to try an exchange. Email
Marilynn Smith
marilynnsmih@hotmail.com email if you want in.  Also will the baren want a 
portfolio of this for the archives as it is a spin off exchange????




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From: Mike Lyon <mikelyon@mlyon.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:54:09 -0500
Subject: [Baren 18527] Re: Baren Digest V19 #1879 

For sure, Marilyn.  One extra print from each 14a participant should be 
collated into a suite for the Spencer Museum archive.

Thanks again for taking this on, Marilyn.  I have put together some ideas 
and suggestions about coordinating our exchanges.  Let me know if you'd 
like me to send you a copy?

Mike

At 09:46 AM 6/28/2002 -0700, Marilyn Smith wrote:

>Also will the baren want a portfolio of this for the archives as it is a 
>spin off exchange????


Mike Lyon
mailto:mikelyon@mlyon.com
http://www.mlyon.com 

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From: "Maria Arango" <maria@mariarango.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 10:11:10 -0700
Subject: [Baren 18528] KC get together 

Greg, your point is well taken. We absolutely do want to do whatever the
membership decides with our limitations as a small group. We would love to
see suggestions. I will just throw out some issues for the members to mull
over.
Our group is more like Wood Engraver's Network (WEN) than a full-fledged
APA. For those who know neither organization, the WEN is a group of around
200 wood engravers that gets together once a year as well, for a workshop,
some wood engraving related activities and to have much fun. APA has a
fairly large membership worldwide, in the thousands. They organize a fine
conference every year with well-known speakers and printmakers of note
attending. Baren is nowhere near that in scope or organization, so I guess
my conference analogy breaks down miserably on several points.
But we should look at this little get together as just that. The Baren Los
Angeles Chapter got together a couple of times and people just dropped by
and watched Bea Gold do her stuff. And she cooked too! We would like to keep
the same informal "get together" feel while making the KC gathering a bit
bigger.

Moving on to the KC 2003 gathering, in the initial survey, we had 61
responses; 17 were a "for sure" in terms of attendance. Another 30 or so
would like more details before compromising. The rest fell in the
categories, "I dunno" and "I'd rather be beat with a rubber mallet than meet
Maria in person."
If we take those numbers, we can guesstimate that around 25-35 may attend,
perhaps even around 40. Mike's studio space is limited to accommodate around
20 folk who will take advantage of the free space. Again in the survey, most
that would definitely attend chose the privacy of staying elsewhere.

I personally know nada about hanga, so I will be like a kid in a candy
store, tasting a bit of this and a bit of that. I would like to see:
- -demos on nearly every aspect of hanga (I think Dave will be printing and
take care of that part!)
- -specific friendly instruction on tying barens  [;-)] 
- -same on sharpening, especially the smallest tools
- -whatever side trips we can manage to see much woodblock stuff
- -much free time to practice all that
- -breakfast served promptly at 6:30 am with decent espresso coffee and a
healthy bagel and absolutely no jack-rabbits

Dean from Graphic Chemical suggested in the survey that they could bring
some supplies and the Baren Mall might put some kits together for folk to
purchase. I thought that might be a great idea so that we can see the
supplies in an environment where someone can explain their use.

I was also going to say that I didn't expect a formal presentation on the
history of hanga, but then I thought that too might be interesting if
someone decided to contribute such a thing.

On the limit thing, I must say I disagree with Mike. We must limit the
number of people staying at the studio, but I think everyone who wants to
come should be allowed to come. I don't think we will have a problem with
too many attending.

I'm game whatever happens!

Maria

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
Maria Arango
Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
http://www.1000woodcuts.com
maria@mariarango.com
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From: Vishnovus@aol.com
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 15:05:02 EDT
Subject: [Baren 18529] exchange 13 

My Music exchange prints arrived yesterday.
This was my very first exchange and I am wildly impressed by the imagery, 
quality, artistry and creativity of this little bundle of prints. I truly 
treasure it.
I keep opening the portfolio and pouring over them...discovering and  
learning. What a joy.
All my thanks and appreciation ....(and Im sure I speak for all of us)...To 
Barbara for coordinating this exchange. Bravo!!! 
Yes, Cut. Print!!!!
Ld Lawrence

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From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 14:11:44 -0500
Subject: [Baren 18530] Re: What was that question again 06/28/2002 02:13:36 PM 

Greg, thank you for your post, you bring up some very good points which
perhaps bare discussion and further analysis.
I will speak only as I know how, from the heart.

It is true that for an organization to grow it must not remain static but
instead look to it's membership for ideas, opportunities & even solutions
to obstacles along the way. With a worldwide membership of over 260+ active
readers, I am sure Baren is different things to different people.  To some
it may be a place to learn about printmaking, for others a place to share
their latest accomplishments. Perhaps just a place to chat or lurk for a
while and learn about what other printmakers are doing. One thing for sure
(I am certain of this!) is that Baren has brought together a diversity of
artists that perhaps would have never met in the 'real' world. This in
itself is an awesome accomplishment.

The original intent of David Bull to form an international  woodblock
printmaking forum has grown to include an extensive online encyclopedia, an
online printmaking library, a quarterly exchange program, a newsletter, an
off-site repository for archiving Baren prints, a BarenMall, an awards
program to reward student printmakers and most recently the 911-NYFD
benefit project.  These, along with the many thousands of prints created by
members, the many worldwide exhibits of Baren prints and all the side
projects that have come about are all very tangible measurements of Baren's
growth in the last five years (does it seem that long ?). But perhaps the
true measurement of Baren's success can't be found on any one web page or
in any one folio of prints, but rather in the feeling of community that has
bonded together among many of our members. People are making plans to
travel and along the way they seek each other out. Gatherings in New York,
Chicago, Florida, California,  Oregon, Canada...Edinburgh !  all attest to
the bonding that is taking place.

The KC Summit next  year is another step along that road. The attending
membership hopefully will voice what kind of things they want to do and
experience. It will be a community atmosphere with members on EQUAL rank
getting to know each other and making lasting friendships. My thanks go out
to Mike Lyon for his generous hospitality for hosting this event.

Yet, Baren is not standing still. Barbara Mason is working away on getting
us non-profit status. John Amoss has designed a color brochure (see last
issue of Barensuji) which made it's debut at the New Orleans SGC last April
and will be available in Oregon, Ohio, Tampa and all the other places
exhibits are planned for this summer & fall.  Ways to expand the BarenMall
are underway with Baren paraphernalia as a real possibility down the road,
a series of how-to videos or DVDs by our more accomplished printmakers,
etc, etc.  What else do we want to see  on Baren ?

These accomplishments would not have been possible without the input,
dedication and resilience of our many members. The door is wide open and
Baren's future looks bright.  I say to the members...don't just ask...
"What is Baren ?"....but rather, get involved, contribute, bring up ideas,
host exhibitions....help make it into what YOU want it to be...  it's your
Forum !!!

thanks...Julio Rodriguez (Skokie, Illinois)


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From: "Diane Tigue" <dtigue@kscable.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 14:52:13 -0500
Subject: [Baren 18531] Re: KC get together 

I've missed many posts due to a virus (klez0 when is the KC event, where and
how much and for how long?  Diane

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From: michael schneider <mikasch@t0.or.at>
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:51:46 +0200
Subject: [Baren 18532] Re: Baren Digest V19 #1879 

My plan is to do so, but the details are not clear now. I sure would 
like to meet you again, and will give word as soon as I have a fixed 
schedule.
This time I hope to be able to do the preparation in time so we could 
possibly make some arrangements beforehand.

michael schneider


April Vollmer wrote:


>It was good to see what Michael S. has been up to! He seems to be able to
>incorporate an understanding of traditional hanga with his personal
>approach. Very nice to see.
>
>Thanks for the link. Hope you will be stopping by NYC on your way to teach.
>
>April
>
>
>




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From: "Maria Arango" <maria@mariarango.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:27:51 -0700
Subject: [Baren 18533] details of KC  

Diane,
KC 2003 details are still sketchy. What we know for sure is still up on the
survey page. Also, those of you who have not as of yet, feel free to take
the survey.
http://barenforum.org/survey/survey.html

That page will become an information page as soon as we begin getting
everyone's input and fine-tune the details.

Maria

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
Maria Arango
Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
http://www.1000woodcuts.com
maria@mariarango.com
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From: Cucamongie@aol.com
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:09:43 -0400
Subject: [Baren 18534] Sarah Hauser in Works on Paper Exhibition 

Hi all, just wanted to let you know that I will have several recent works 
(solarplate prints & a woodblock rubbing) in "Paper V Invitational", a works 
on paper show at Woodward Gallery at 476 Broome Street in the Soho area of 
New York City. Phone number of the gallery is 212-966-3411.  The show runs 
from July 2nd through July 31st.  There's no opening for the show, but the 
gallery is open Tuesday - Saturday 11 am til 6 pm.  John and Kristine Woodward 
are very friendly, nice people, as is their gallery assistant Tom, and their dog 
Rinki is often on the premises and loves to show people around the gallery (I'm 
serious, she happily gave me a tour!).  I'm fortunate to have my work included 
among the likes of such greats as Willem de Kooning, Roy Lichtenstein, George Grosz, 
Frank Stella, Ben Shahn, Andy Warhol, etc!

Enjoy...
best wishes
Sarah Hauser

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From: Vishnovus@aol.com
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 22:14:58 EDT
Subject: [Baren 18535] Re: Sarah Hauser in Works on Paper Exhibition 

Congratulations Sarah, Kristine and John Woodward are indeed wonderful. I 
know them well. 
Sorry to miss your exhibit as I am now in Washington State.
Pats and scratches to Rinki.....and kiss littleJulie for me.
Ld Lawrence.

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From: "Lee and Barbara Mason" <bemason@concentric.net>
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 19:16:42 -0700
Subject: [Baren 18536] Re: Sarah Hauser in Works on Paper Exhibition 

Sarah! Wonderful news! Congratulations!
I am so excited for you. I will be at the opening in spirit!
Best to you,
Barbara


> Hi all, just wanted to let you know that I will have several recent works

(solarplate prints & a woodblock rubbing) in "Paper V Invitational", a works
on paper show at Woodward Gallery at 476 Broome Street in the Soho area of
New York City. Phone number of the gallery is 212-966-3411.  The show runs
from July 2nd through July 31st.  There's no opening for the show, but the
gallery is open Tuesday - Saturday 11 am til 6 pm.  John and Kristine
Woodward are very friendly, nice people, as is their gallery assistant Tom,
and their dog Rinki is often on the premises and loves to show people around
the gallery (I'm serious, she happily gave me a tour!).  I'm fortunate to
have my work included among the likes of such greats as Willem de Kooning,
Roy Lichtenstein, George Grosz, Frank Stella, Ben Shahn, Andy Warhol, etc!

> Enjoy...
> best wishes
> Sarah Hauser
>



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From: b.patera@att.net
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 05:36:40 +0000
Subject: [Baren 18537] Re: Sarah Hauser in Works on Paper Exhibition 

Sarah,

How wonderful! Congratulations!

Barbara P.

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From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:34:38 -0500
Subject: [Baren 18538] Re: 93'f. -and it's Christmas in Chicago! 
06/29/2002 01:45:47 AM 

Yes, my LPE's are here too....well actually at home and I am at work...a
good time was had by all at the Rodriguez household while opening the
package.

Thanks to all the contributing artists and specially to Rudolph for his
labor and coordination.

On HF....I must admit I am not among the most educated when it comes to
evaluating abstract art or for that matter any type of art...a few college
courses in painting, drawing & Primitive art is all I have under by name.
The links I posted last week on Frankenthaler where not indicative of my
likes or dislikes of her work, just info I thought others might be
interested in pursuing.    For now I'll reserve my humble judgement until I
can be acquainted with more of her work.

I have read (and  highly recommend ) two books on this collaboration
topic... "Ken Tyler - Master Printer" and the other is called "Gemini
G.E.L.". Both of these books go into lot of detail on the goingons at the
studios that Tyler operated. A lot of detail into the working relationships
between famous artists (Albers, Stella, Frankenthaler, etc...) and the
printmakers. Detail
 info on the making of some very well known prints. Both book were
available at my local library.

Julio Rodriguez (Skokie, Illinois)


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