Baren Digest Friday, 21 June 2002 Volume 19 : Number 1870 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ArtfulCarol@aol.com Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 09:37:13 EDT Subject: [Baren 18408] Re: Baren Digest V19 #1869 April, You are not speaking to a vacuum and I am following every word and image. I think your interview and images are wonderful Though my reactions have become a cliche by now., your work is fresh . Congratulations and good wishes for the next exhibit!. Carol Lyons Computer Slave Irvington, NY ------------------------------ From: Shireen Holman Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:02:43 -0400 Subject: [Baren 18409] Fwd: Problems with Graphic Chemical & Ink Dean, This message was posted to the Book Arts List. They seem to be having trouble contacting Graphic Chemical. Maybe you could help? Shireen >X-Sender: tb3e@t1.mail.virginia.edu >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 >Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 01:44:46 -0400 >Reply-To: "Book_Arts-L: READ THE FAQ at >http://www.philobiblon.com" >Sender: "Book_Arts-L: READ THE FAQ at >http://www.philobiblon.com" >From: Terry Belanger >Subject: [BKARTS] Problems with Graphic Chemical & Ink >To: BOOK_ARTS-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU > >In recent weeks we've had great difficulty in getting in touch with Graphic >Chemical and Ink (Villa Park, IL). They've reliably supplied us with >printmaking making supplies for many years, but our most recent order never >arrived, and several follow-up queries were never answered. Does anyone >know if they are still in business? > >Terry Belanger : University Professor : University of Virginia : Rare Book >School : 114 Alderman Library : Charlottesville, VA 22903 : Telephone >434/924-8851 fax 434/924-8824 email belanger@virginia.edu : URL > > > *********************************************** > BOOK_ARTS-L: The listserv for all the book arts. > For subscription information, the Archive, and other related > resources and links go to the Book_Arts-L FAQ at: > > > Archive maintained and suppported by Conservation OnLine > > *********************************************** *********************************************** Shireen Holman, Printmaker and Book Artist email: shireenh@earthlink.net http://www.shireenholman.com *********************************************** ------------------------------ From: "PHARE-CAMP,PATTI (HP-USA,ex1)" Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 07:41:18 -0700 Subject: [Baren 18410] RE: Baren Digest V19 #1869 "I'm planning to do some prints with collage images from magazines). I guess I will use rice paste of methil to stick them, but Im afraid that the acidity of the magazine cuts could pass the acidity into de printing paper. Any solution to this?" Juan: If you seal it with clear acrylic medium that should work. Also at the printmaking studio of a friend many of the artists were using the clear acrylic medium as adhesive. I learned this from Carol Wagner, I don't know if she signed up for this baran group yet but she is a font of information and an incredible source of information on paper and conservation. Carol are you out there? Can you elaborate on this...Batti ------------------------------ From: "Dan Sabo" Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:53:29 -0400 Subject: [Baren 18411] Problems with Graphic Chemical & Ink: I can answer this one Hi, My name is Dan Sabo, I'm Graphic's web designer. First of all Graphic is ABSOLUTELY in business. Unknown to both myself and Graphic for some time, there were e-mail problems. The problem was discovered late yesterday afternoon, and has been completely corrected as of yesterday evening. Now everything with the e-mail situation seems to be working perfectly. The great people at Graphic are currently going through all of the recovered e-mails and hope to get back to everyone who have recently sent e-mails and never heard back from them. In the meantime, if anyone has any immediate questions for Graphic or needs to contact them, or if anyone has written Graphic and has not heard a response from them, please feel free to send them an e-mail again. We are very sorry for any inconvenience that this may have caused anyone on this list. Graphic's e-mail addresses are sales@graphicchemical.net, or you can e-mail Mr. Dean Clark directly at dean@graphicchemical.net. Also if anyone here is experiencing any problems with Graphic's web site, feel free to contact me directly (or them). My e-mail address is dan@dansabo.com Sincerely, Daniel B. Sabo ------------------------------ From: "PHARE-CAMP,PATTI (HP-USA,ex1)" Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 07:59:22 -0700 Subject: [Baren 18412] RE: Baren Digest V19 #1869 Regarding the Alliance print memorial: When I first joined the baren group it was just too close to the deadline for me to get anything done on time. Perhaps I will be able to pull something before the next deadline...we shall see. Phare-Camp ------------------------------ From: pulpfic@sunshinecable.com Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 09:00:03 -0700 Subject: [Baren 18413] Collage with magazine pages; lightfastness Hi Juan and others, If you will be using magazine images in collage, and if colour is important, you need to know that the inks used in printing magazines, posters and such are not lightfast. They will fade generally, as well as colour-shifting when one or more inks in a combination used to print these items fades more than others in the same image. I don't know if coating the magazine or poster image with acrylic medium will slow or stop this fading as I just won't use these short lifespan items in collage. To me, the fugitive inks are almost more of a problem than the acidity. Best wishes, Randi - -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Randi DeLisle - papermaker, bookbinder & publisher pulp fictions & pulp fictions press Grand Forks BC Canada pulpfic@sunshinecable.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ From: "Carole Baker" Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 05:07:38 +0900 (JST) Subject: [Baren 18414] Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 12:02:44 Dear Bareners, Seems my messages weren't coming out in plain text to the digest, so I've resubscribed at this address and want to again thank all of you who came to my aid with my Hanga "bleeding" problems. I'm cured of working too wet. Got rid of the blotters and am just using newspaper (and newsprint paper next to the print) and giving the prints a little time between blocks. Yesterday's run was the best ever. I'm so happy! Is the KC Hanga intensive thing still open? I filled out the survey in March and was traveling and not reading baren for most of April and May and and i kinda remember there was supposed to be some follow up to the survey in April. I found the old survey where it was, but nothing scanning the archives. My seriousness level for attending is way higher now than it was in March. Can someone let me know what the status is. Carole Baker ------------------------------ From: Mike Lyon Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 15:40:21 -0500 Subject: [Baren 18415] Re: Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 12:02:44 -0800 Oh, gee, Carole, let me see... Yes. Yes, I think there may be room for one more at the KC Hanga Summit Intensive Camp Out Happening Event Thing next year... Let me check... Yes, I think we just might be able to accommodate you! Actually, and to be honest, we have not begun to take registrations. But we will, we will! We'll make a big announcement for months on end when we do, so everyone who wants to (up to 30 maybe?) should be able to attend. It'd be very helpful if any of you interested parties out there would throw out your two cents here on the forum about what you'd like to see happening in KC next June -- that sort of discussion would really help us tailor the BIG EVENT !! Thanks! Mike ------------------------------ From: Daniel Dew Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 16:45:33 -0400 Subject: [Baren 18416] Re: KC, 2003 Me, I wanna SEE someone do Hanga! Dan Dew ------------------------------ From: slinders@attbi.com Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 16:33:02 -0500 Subject: [Baren 18417] Hanga-ing around in KC, in 2003! 1. Meeting everyone! 2. (See Dan's comments) 3. See prints and other art! Sharen ------------------------------ From: Cucamongie@aol.com Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 18:37:59 -0400 Subject: [Baren 18418] PBS Animation broadcast Hi, just wanted to inform folks in the Tristate area that my "better half", Jeffrey Lerer, is going to have one of his surreal, funny, strange, absolutely wonderful animations broadcast tomorrow (Friday) night at 10pm on Channel 13 on the program "Reel New York". The whole hour will be short animations, and promises to be a great show - enjoy! best wishes Sarah Hauser ------------------------------ From: GraphChem@aol.com Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 19:13:26 EDT Subject: [Baren 18419] Re: Fwd: Problems with Graphic Chemical & Ink Sharen - Thanks for the heads up. Through a quirk of fate, just yesterday we learned that there has been a long term problem with some of our e-mail addresses. Mail that was sent to these addresses was never delivered. It is simply a lack of communication on our part, and it has been fixed, but we had over 1000 old e-mails show up on my virtual doorstep last night! Some of these go back to September 4, 2001. Needless to say, we dropped the ball on a lot of customers. Some managed to find other ways to contact us, and some we stumbled into contacts with, but unfortunately some we just plain screwed up on. It's been fixed, with the help of Dan Sabo, and I fully expect that we'll have contacted most of the offended parties within the next couple of weeks. To any of our Baren friends out there - if we failed to contact you, I'm really sorry. If ever you don't get a response from us, call, write or use my personal e-mail address: dean710@msn.com . Some of you signed up for our e-newsletter, which hasn't existed because we'd had no signups. You'll be getting some form of communication soon. I'll be out of town at an engravers conference next week through July 3rd, but whatever isn't completed before I go will be right after that. 'Nuff said Dean ------------------------------ From: Brian Lockyear Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 16:23:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Baren 18420] Re: Bell ringing I've been away for a week and am still catching back up. Thought I'd throw in two-cents regarding Karen Kunc even though it is a bit late. I took a one-week seminar from her here at Oregon College of Art and Craft a couple summers back. It was great to learn about her techniques, which were indeed oil based but had many interesting crossovers to waterbased. One interesting aspect was that she printed with very very transparent oil and built colors using layers of ink. She often applies the ink to specific areas of the block with a roller and then "feathers" out the edges of the inked area by hand. (Literally, she beats around the edges of the ink spot with the base of the palm of her hand to soften the edge). So she gets a nice bokashi like fade around a spot area. Another interesting technique was what she called a "double-reduction" woodcut. She had two blocks in which she would reduce overlapping or closely adjacent positive and negative spaces on each. For example she would remove around an area on one block and remove within the area in the opposing block. The first block she would continue to reduce within the area and the other block would continue to reduce in the surroundings. Since she was doing a lot of layers of ink it helped to simplify the order in which things had to be applied. Also her work is very abstract so it was more about reducing general "shapes" than exact drawings. With overlapping reductions she could cut different patterns over same area giving a lot of color variations. Her prints are beautiful and very distinctive. I always find abstracts in woodblock interesting because of the wierd mix of inherent woodblock limitations and the complete freedom of abstract patterns. Helen Frankenthaler of course also does this beautifully as someone else here was mentioning the other day. I think one of her (Frankenthaler's) most amazing prints is a very early woodcut she did at Crownpoint in collaboration with Japenese printers. This piece, "Cedar Hill", takes on all the character of Frankenthaler's abstract paintings yet is clearly a woodcut as well. http://www.crownpoint.com/artists/frankenthaler/cedar.html - Brian - ------------------------------ From: ArtfulCarol@aol.com Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:29:12 EDT Subject: [Baren 18421] Re: Bell ringing In a message dated 6/20/02 7:24:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, brianl@synopsys.COM writes: << http://www.crownpoint.com/artists/frankenthaler/cedar.html >> I am going on record to say that I do not care for "Cedar Hill" The Emperor has no clothes. Carol ------------------------------ From: Brian Lockyear Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 19:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Baren 18422] Re: Bell ringing ArtfulCarol@aol.com writes: > In a message dated 6/20/02 7:24:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > brianl@synopsys.COM writes: > > << > http://www.crownpoint.com/artists/frankenthaler/cedar.html >> > I am going on record to say that I do not care for "Cedar Hill" > The Emperor has no clothes. > Carol Good grief. What a response. Everybody is welcome to like or dislike whatever they wish. ------------------------------ From: juan Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 23:52:50 -0500 Subject: [Baren 18423] Re: Baren Digest V19 #1869 Sharen, Eli: Thanks for the answer about my "deacidification" question. I just visited the University products and Archival suppliers pages and have found a lot of info. What about the sodium bicarbonate? Do you think it could work? who told me was a restoration teacher, but some 10 years ago, and they were using only "traditional restoration methods". Juan Guerrero ------------------------------ From: Charles Morgan Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2002 16:26:26 -0700 Subject: [Baren 18424] Re: hear ye you exchange junkies! Well, as usual, I have a question. The rules state "woodblock", and the only exception noted is lino. I presume plywood is O.K. But, am I allowed to enter if I am carving MDF? Just thought I had better check. Cheers ...... Charles At 11:05 AM 6/1/02 -0700, you wrote: >Hear ye! Hear ye! Yeah, ye too!!! > >Exchange #14 is awaiting your participation! Take your spot now before the >crowds show up... >http://barenforum.org/exchange/exchange_sign-up.html > >Of course, I announced _after_ I signed up... > > [:-)] >Maria > ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> >Maria Arango >Las Vegas, Nevada, USA >http://www.1000woodcuts.com >maria@mariarango.com ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V19 #1870 *****************************