Baren Digest              Wednesday, 12 June 2002      Volume 19 : Number 1859


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From: "Gillyin Gatto" <gillying@Maineline.net>
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:24:46 -0700
Subject: [Baren 18297] ex #14 

bareners-- concerning the  plight of anyone wanting in    marilynn is 
welcome to step ahead of me on the waiting list
as i participated in ex #13       i just followed the instructions of the
coordinator as to when and how to sign up -   Gillyin

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From: Daniel Dew <ddew@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:27:16 -0400
Subject: [Baren 18298] Re: ex #14 

Ya know, I think the Swap Shop is looking for prints.  How about everyone
that doesn't make it in #14, like myself, do a print and send 10 off to the
Swap Shop.  Kinda like a mini-exchange.

Here's the link, speak up and let me know.

http://barenforum.org/swapshop/index.html

Dan Dew


> From: "Gillyin Gatto" <gillying@Maineline.net>
> Subject: [Baren 18297] ex #14
> 
> bareners-- concerning the  plight of anyone wanting in    marilynn is
> welcome to step ahead of me on the waiting list
> as i participated in ex #13       i just followed the instructions of the
> coordinator as to when and how to sign up -   Gillyin



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From: "Maria Arango" <maria@mariarango.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 07:57:49 -0700
Subject: [Baren 18299] exch 14 

The official date for signing up for Exch 14 was June 1st. June 8th was the
official date to sign up if you had participated in Ex13. Anyone that signed
up earlier than June 8th _and_ had participated in Ex13 was deferred (in
order of enrollment) until June 8th. That's why someone that signs up after
June 8th places low on the waiting list.
Does this explanation help any?
I agree with Dan, anyone left out can enter the Swap Shop exchange any time
to get some lovely no-pressure prints!

Maria

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Maria Arango
Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
http://www.1000woodcuts.com
maria@mariarango.com
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From: Mike Lyon <mikelyon@mlyon.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 10:27:25 -0500
Subject: [Baren 18300] Marilyn Smith and Exchange #14 

Dear Marilynn,

The exchange opened for sign-up on June 1.  In order to give everyone a 
chance to take part in the exchange, the ones who participated in the 
previous exchange were "held back" for the first week.  That has been our 
standard operating procedure for every exchange, but there was a LOT of 
thrashing in #13 as quite a few #12 participants were allowed to sign up 
before the first week was over.  Then the list of participants was redrawn 
several times with different people in the participant list.  It was very 
awkward.  So we decided that we would allow EVERYONE to sign-up for future 
exchanges at the same time, but hold those who had participated in the 
previous exchange to the end of the list for the first week.

So for seven days from June 1 through June 7, those who participated in #13 
were held back to the end of the list.  By June 5 forty people had signed 
up, sixteen of them Exchange 13 participants.  Then, on the morning of June 
8,  the exchange #13 participants who signed up were appended to the 
list.  The BarenForum server "time-stamps" each submission with the date 
and time it was received -- the first registration, for example was 
time-stamped 8:29am June 1st.  Later that day you signed up.  Your 
submission was time-stamped 4:34pm June 8.  At that time, all the Exchange 
13 participants were already in line in front of you.

Sorry, Marilyn, I can imagine your disappointment.  If you'd signed up just 
one day earlier you would have been #25 in the exchange proper.  One other 
person signed up after you did, so there are presently twelve on the 
waiting list...

There have been several "Salon de Refuse" exchanges involving both 
wait-listers and regular participants.  Since there are so many on the 
waiting list, perhaps you (or any of the others on the waiting list) would 
like to coordinate a Salon de Refuse for #14?  If so, why don't you post a 
notice or two on the forum and see how many volunteers you get -- those in 
the exchange proper who wanted to take part would only need to make enough 
extra prints to supply those on the waiting list.  I, for one, would be 
happy to participate.

Mike

At 04:39 PM 6/10/2002 -0700, you wrote:



>Question only, I signed up for exchange #14 Saturday morning, June 8, 
>2002, before we left for our trip to the coast.  I am #11 on the wait list 
>and did not participate in exchange #13, there is only one other wait list 
>person behind me???? Does that mean that only one person from exchange #13 
>wants in this exchange? I know this is a tough job and also that this and 
>the next exchange will not happen for me now, but just wondered??
>Marilynn Smith


Mike Lyon
mailto:mikelyon@mlyon.com
http://www.mlyon.com 

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From: "marilynn smih" <marilynnsmih@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:40:07 -0700
Subject: [Baren 18301] Re: Baren Digest V19 #1857 

As a painter turned printmaker I must make a comment about guache, 
watercolor and transparent vs. opaque pigment.  I still consider me a 
beginner at printmaking, I guess because I was a painter for 20 years and it 
still feels so new and challenging.  So, I have not done many reduction or 
color prints and will do my first hanga stuff with graham next week.  But, 
with transparent watercolor pigments often being transparent is a plus as 
when you lay one color over another you can get a third color, not always a 
grey or a brown but a color!!!  You can easily make watercolor opaque with 
the addition of white.  Also, many of the earth pignmemts and even some of 
the lighter ones are on the edge of opaque such as our browns and ochres.  
Quache to me is simply opaque watercolor, also mixed together pigment in 
watercolor slowly become more opaque.  How this applies to printmaking is up 
to you, but it would seem to me you could get some lovely colors using 
transparent paints one applied over the other. Oh and is it Patrick from 
overseas who got into #14, his first exchange, you will be thrilled with the 
exchange of work and it is addictive.  Yes I was disapointed not to get in 
and surprised to be so low on the wait list when i had signed up there were 
spaces showing, but guess it had not been updated.  i will survive, 
unhappily.
Marilynn




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From: "Carole Baker" <caroleterrybaker@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:01:44 -0800
Subject: [Baren 18302] thankyou for advise on moisture 

To all you wonderful, helpful bareners who advised 
me on my hanga problems, a big, big THANK YOU.   Mike, your reply 
is a wealth of information which I have printed and will refer to again 
and again, I'm sure.&nbsp; I'm going to hang in there and think dryer.

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From: "Linda" <LMHTWB@prodigy.net>
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 12:27:26 -0700
Subject: [Baren 18303] Exchange #15 

Since it doesn't look like I'll make it into exchange #14, I'm planning
ahead for #15!  So, when will the sign-up begin?  Actually, can someone
explain to me the exchange scheduling in general?  Does the sign-up for the
next one begin with the due date for the last one?  Or is it more mysterious
than that?

As for #14, I would be interested in either an exchange among the wait-list
people or sending some prints to the swap shop.  I'm no.6 on the wait list,
and Mike said the first 4 or 5 often get in, so I feel I need to play along
just in case an extra one drops out.  (And if not 'just in case' then maybe
I'll bump someone off ahead of me -- hey Maria, guess who lives closest to
me?!  *EG*)

Linda


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From: Mike Lyon <mikelyon@mlyon.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 16:20:26 -0500
Subject: [Baren 18304] Re: Exchange #15 

Well...  We seem to be having an exchange every four months -- a month for 
sign-up, three months to complete, and then the next sign-up, etc.

I was going to wait a bit before springing the details about Exchange #15, 
but (thanks, Linda!!) since you asked...

As we do a "three on two" size vs. theme rotation (chuban, oban, other vs 
theme, no-theme) #15 is to be a themed exchange with some paper size 
"other" than chuban or oban.

Sooooo....

...<big brass fan fare>

for something just a 'teeney' bit different...

...<drum roll>...

Exchange #15 will be...

...<clash of cymbals>...

An ALL-HANGA (that's the 'theme' this time) exchange!  It will be limited 
to multi-block, multi-color Japanese woodblock technique prints using 
primarily brushed on water color pigments and baren on washi (Japanese paper).

For ease of printing, I am thinking of a small-ish paper size -- tanzaku or 
some variation. Tanzaku is a narrow vertical paper format -- the word 
"tanzaku" literally means something like "ribbon" or "strip" and it is the 
usual name given to those strips of paper containing 'wishes', 'names', and 
'poems' which are tied to bamboo branches or other things as offerings in 
the hope they will come true. For a cute illustration, see 
http://www.ak.cradle.titech.ac.jp/rise/HTML/mr003.htm

o-tanzaku (large tanzaku) measure approximately 38 x 17cm (15 x 6 1/2 inches)
chu-tanzaku (mid-size tanzaku) measure approximately 38 x 13cm (15 x 5 
inches) it is half of an oban sheet cut lengthwise
ko-tanzaku (small tanzaku) measure approximately 34.5 x 7.6cm (13 x 3 
inches) it is half of an aiban sheet cut lengthwise

I am leaning toward ko-tanzaku or chu-tanzaku format because the paper will 
be relatively easy to handle and register (if cut with fibers running 
mainly lengthwise) and the format should be interesting, challenging, and 
rewarding to most.

There are few analogous formats in Western art, but this long, slim sheet 
size is common in Japan (and China and "the Orient") where books and 
paintings were frequently mounted as scrolls and could be rolled up and 
boxed for easy storage when not displayed.

Well, Exchange #15 is still a number of months away -- the sign up will 
begin October 1, 2002 (everyone is welcome to sign up right from the start, 
but participants in #14 will be moved to the bottom of the list for the 
first week).  The deadline for completed prints will be February 1, 2003.

Sooooo.... #15 will be a great 'warm-up'!   LET'S GET READY FOR THE FIRST 
BAREN MOKU-HANGA SUMMIT -- MID-JUNE, 2003 IN KANSAS CITY!!!

Mike

At 12:27 PM 6/11/2002 -0700, you wrote:

>Since it doesn't look like I'll make it into exchange #14, I'm planning
>ahead for #15!  So, when will the sign-up begin?  Actually, can someone
>explain to me the exchange scheduling in general?  Does the sign-up for the
>next one begin with the due date for the last one?  Or is it more mysterious
>than that?
>
>As for #14, I would be interested in either an exchange among the wait-list
>people or sending some prints to the swap shop.  I'm no.6 on the wait list,
>and Mike said the first 4 or 5 often get in, so I feel I need to play along
>just in case an extra one drops out.  (And if not 'just in case' then maybe
>I'll bump someone off ahead of me -- hey Maria, guess who lives closest to
>me?!  *EG*)
>
>Linda



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From: Mike Lyon <mikelyon@mlyon.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 16:43:00 -0500
Subject: [Baren 18305] EXCHANGE #14 CORRECTIONS 

I am <SO> embarrassed to inform you all that I inadvertently omitted Sharen 
Linder's name from the list of #14 participants.  She was among the 
earliest sign-ups on June 1st and has taken her rightful place (#29) on the 
list.  Barbara Patera, I regret to inform you that you have been 'bumped' 
to your correct spot, first on the waiting list.  Please look over the list 
here or on the Baren site at 
http://www.barenforum.org/exchange/exchange_sign-up.html I have carefully 
triple-checked this time, but please let me know right away if I have made 
other errors or omissions.

So sorry !

Mike Lyon, incompetent, red-in-the-face, so-called 'coordinator' of 
coordinators...

1.  Tyrus Clutter
2.  eli griggs
3.  Maria Arango
4.  patsy giclas
5.  Darrell Madis
6.  Philip W. Smith
7.  Cathryn Backer
8.  Richard Campbell
9.  G Jarvis
10.  Kat Pukas
11.  Jean Eger Womack
12.  jo ernsten
13.  Mary Kuster
14.  Maurice Fykes III
15.  Robert Canaga
16.  Charles Morgan
17.  Minna Sora
18.  Brad Schwartz
19.  Louise Cass
20.  John Cleverdon
21.  carol lyons
22.  Patti Phare-Camp
23.  Cyndy Wilson
24.  Mellissa Read-Devine
25.  Julio Rodriguez
26.  Wanda Robertson
27.  Barbara Mason
28.  Mike Lyon
29.  Sharen Linder
30.  john Center

WAITING LIST:
1.  Barbara Patera
2.  Gillyin Gatto
3.  Janet Kravetz Hollander
4.  Kate Courchaine
5.  Jeanne Norman Chase
6.  Monica Bright
7.  Linda Hornberger
8.  Bea Gold
9.  Ld Lawrence
10.  Gilda Machado - Zimmerling
11.  Bobbie Mandel
12.  Marilynn Smith
13.  Frank Trueba

Mike Lyon
mailto:mikelyon@mlyon.com
http://www.mlyon.com ------------------------------

From: Mike Lyon <mikelyon@mlyon.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 16:57:05 -0500
Subject: [Baren 18306] Moku Hanga Anyone? 

If you're interested in learning more about Japanese woodblock print-making 
techniques, Hiroshi Yoshida's book is just excellent and can be read 
on-line at: 
http://www.woodblock.com/encyclopedia/entries/011_07/repeat_frame.html

Mike


Mike Lyon
mailto:mikelyon@mlyon.com
http://www.mlyon.com 

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From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 17:00:14 -0500
Subject: [Baren 18307] Re: EXCHANGE #14 issues....... 06/11/2002 05:02:13 PM 

As other have mentioned, a suggestion for the people down on the waiting
list is to use the Swapshop. Since #14 is not themed, it does not make much
sense (at least to me!) to create a "Salon". With the Swapshop you have an
option of two standard sizes and to produce an edition only as large as
however many prints you want to get back.  James Mundie is in charge of
prints received, check the website !

Congrats to Tyrus and John Amoss for getting published, also April
Vollmer's interview at Worldprintmakers is a gem!

http://www.worldprintmakers.com/english/vollmer/interviw.htm

thanks...Julio


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From: Dan Dew <ddew0001@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 18:10:05 -0400
Subject: [Baren 18308] Bell ringing 

Does the name Karen Kunc ring a bell on this group, or should I say with
this group?

She is jurying a print and paper competition and it says she is a woodblock
printmaker and I thought her name sounded familiar.
Or am I just losing my mind?


Dan Dew


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From: b.patera@att.net
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 22:24:09 +0000
Subject: [Baren 18309] Re: EXCHANGE #14 CORRECTIONS 

OH RATS!

Barbara P.



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From: John Amoss <amoss@mindspring.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 18:50:55 -0700
Subject: [Baren 18310] Re: Bell ringing 

Dan-
Yes, Karen Kunc is quite the woodblock printmaker!
See:<http://www.artline.com/galleries/haslem/kunc/list.html>

In fact, many people would say that she is one of the best-known western
woodblock printmakers today- she even appeared in the latest Baren Suji
edition- but I won't tell you where...

I have had the pleasure of talking with her and watching her work. Her
technique, although oil-based and on a press, has a lot of its roots in
Japan, especially the sosaku hanga movement. She is a very open and sharing
person and I would encourage everyone to meet her if you get a chance.

- -John Amoss


on 6/11/02 3:10 PM, Dan Dew at ddew0001@tampabay.rr.com wrote:


> Does the name Karen Kunc ring a bell on this group, or should I say with
> this group?
> 
> She is jurying a print and paper competition and it says she is a woodblock
> printmaker and I thought her name sounded familiar.
> Or am I just losing my mind?
> 
> 
> Dan Dew
> 



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From: Charles Morgan <cmorgan@uvic.ca>
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 20:20:32 -0700
Subject: [Baren 18311] Re: EXCHANGE #14 CORRECTIONS 


Hmmmmm .... let me see now ....

(1) there are more people who want to participate than there are places 
available ... that is, there is a commodity which is in short supply ...

(2) I happen to have the "right" to participate ... I have some of the 
commodity which is in short supply ...

(3) The law of supply and demand says that when a commodity is in short 
supply, the market should yield a high price for it ....

(4) Soooooooo ...... Maybe I should consider selling my place in the 
participation to someone who is desperate to get in on this exchange .....

O.K. ... I am accepting offers .........

Cheers ....... Charles



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From: "John Cleverdon" <jhcleverdon@mindspring.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 22:30:10 -0700
Subject: [Baren 18312] Re: Bell ringing 

Dan Dew wrote:


> Does the name Karen Kunc ring a bell on this group, or should I say with
> this group?
>
> She is jurying a print and paper competition and it says she is a

woodblock

> printmaker and I thought her name sounded familiar.
> Or am I just losing my mind?

.......................................................
Karen Kunc is a professor of printmaking at one of the campuses of the
University of Nebraska.  She does large abstract color woodcuts (oil based
inks).   I saw a demonstration she did many years ago at a Southern Graphics
Council conference at Gainesville, FL (University of Florida and Santa Fe
Junior College).  She used an etching press to demonstrate woodcut color
printing from a single plywood block using a combination of reduction and
using tape to mask out areas.  Her work is included in "Presswork: The Art
of Women Printmakers," published in 1991 by Lang Communications to accompany
the exhibition of the same name.

She has an article in Contemporary Impressions, Vol. 1, #1 (Spring 1993),
titled "Woodcut & the Contemporary Artist."  The article was adapted from a
talk she presented at the Southern Graphics Council conference, Kansas City
Art Institute, 1991.

John Cleverdon
Point Clear, AL



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From: "Lee and Barbara Mason" <bemason@concentric.net>
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 03:37:18 -0700
Subject: [Baren 18313] Re: Bell ringing

Dan,
She is a very well known woodblock printmaker in the NW and uses lots of
blocks working abastractly. Her work is very unusual and beautiful, I think
she uses oily stuff.
Barbara


> Does the name Karen Kunc ring a bell on this group, or should I say with
> this group?
>
> She is jurying a print and paper competition and it says she is a

woodblock

> printmaker and I thought her name sounded familiar.
> Or am I just losing my mind?
>
>
> Dan Dew
>
>



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