Baren Digest               Saturday, 18 May 2002       Volume 19 : Number 1833


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From: Cucamongie@aol.com
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 12:17:59 EDT
Subject: [Baren 18084] power to unpowdered pigments 


Hi again all, Dave, I respect your expert opinion, but Guerra's dispersed 
pigments (at least the colors I've used) happen to be EXTREMELY concentrated, 
I don't think you'd be disappointed if you tried them.  As for color 
selection, they have a giant selection as well.  I think they may carry some 
earth pigments, you'd have to check it out, and it is possible that if you 
really WANTED the powder form, you could get it from them.  Too bad that Dave 
& Charles don't leave nearby NYC, it's fun to visit their store as they have 
swatches of the different colors painted up on the wall.  As for the danger 
of the powder, you can take it out of quotes because it is a reality, because 
no matter how you mix it, in the act of mixing you are still dealing w/the 
powder going into the air, so at least take proper precautions.  
Stay healthy all,
Sarah
Dave said:
<<As for the 'danger' of powder in the air, that can be completely 
eliminated by storing the pigment in paste form.>>




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From: Aqua4tis@aol.com
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 13:13:29 EDT
Subject: [Baren 18085] Re: To: baren@ml.asahi-net.or.jp sarah
   
   does guerras pigments have a web site?
georga

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From: Gerald Lange <Bieler@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 11:02:06 +0000
Subject: [Baren 18086] Fine paper overstocks 

We have a number of papers left over from letterpress projects:

Half-a-ream of handmade Barcham Green Tovil text weight as well as colored
Japanese Usuzumi, a recycled calligraphy text weight.

If interested please contact offlist.

Gerald Lange
The Bieler Press
Marina del Rey, California

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From: "Maria Arango" <maria@mariarango.com>
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 18:08:43 -0700
Subject: [Baren 18087] cruel gruel pricing 

Fellow printmakers,

Many discussions have been geared toward the elusive art of pricing your
prints. For some of us, the magic words are "what the market will bear."
After 3 years in the "circuit" of fine art festivals, I have arrived at some
pricing that seems to work both for me and the public. I was able to raise,
in some cases double, my prices recently and thought I would share with the
group.

Now for the numerous qualifiers and disclaimers:
- - I sell directly to the public, mostly the uninformed public, but I set
them straight on what they are buying.
- - When you sell to the public, you will notice that size matters  [:-)] My
prices _used to_ vary from print to print depending on edition size, colors,
degree of difficulty...
- - 4 galleries that carry my work double my prices and call my prices "artist
direct" or "wholesale" (if I had to eat on what they sell I would be very
skinny--I am not skinny).
- - I frame simply but nicely, some double mats and floats and things like
that. I don't spend a lot of time or money framing, but appearance is
everything when selling to the public so my prints look nice and I get a lot
of compliments on my framing. I buy frames in quantity and wholesale, same
for mats and glass.
- - I have now been successfully selling prints for 3 years, so I have a
pretty good idea overall what "my" market will bear. That is a key concept,
you have to find out what "your" market will bear. I suspect if I were
selling back east I would raise my prices yet again. Also, you might want to
look at the prints, many are one-block or two-block prints in smallish
sizes. Best sellers are framed to 16" x 20" although lately I have had good
fortune with the largest works.

Okay, finally, please don't anyone "touchy" (heh heh) out there think I'm
soliciting or selling (despite the catchy name of my price list page). I am
merely sharing pricing information for those artists that want to get out
there and make a living.

http://www.1000woodcuts.com/buyit.html
Enjoy,
Maria

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Maria Arango
Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
http://www.1000woodcuts.com
maria@mariarango.com
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From: "Lee and Barbara Mason" <bemason@concentric.net>
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 19:50:07 -0700
Subject: [Baren 18088] pricing 

Maria,

You are right about size and the public, I have found that pricing by size
is the way that works best for me. Sometimes a customer will ask for a
discount, but I always offer time payments instead. Usually they just buy it
and are sort of embarassed. Would you ask your dentist or your grocer for a
discount???? why your artist???? So i just gently say that no, I don't do
discounts unless they buy more than one piece and then it is 10% but I would
gladly sell it to them on time....hehehehheheh.

I do a lot of montypes and charge more for them...most of my etchings are
about $100 unframed and fit nicely in a 16x20 frame. I add about $40 for the
framing. Woodblocks are about the same prices.
This is hard to figure for most people, but if you buy standard size frames
and glass and adjust your work accordingly you will save lots of money over
your lifetime!
Best to all,
Barbara



> - I have now been successfully selling prints for 3 years, so I have a
> pretty good idea overall what "my" market will bear. That is a key

concept,

> you have to find out what "your" market will bear. I suspect if I were
> selling back east I would raise my prices yet again. Also, you might want

to

> look at the prints, many are one-block or two-block prints in smallish
> sizes. Best sellers are framed to 16" x 20" although lately I have had

good

> fortune with the largest works.


> http://www.1000woodcuts.com/buyit.html
> Enjoy,
> Maria




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