Baren Digest Thursday, 25 April 2002 Volume 19 : Number 1809 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Myron Turner Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 08:48:17 -0500 Subject: [Baren 17948] Re: Baren Digest V19 #1807 There are apparently security issues with AOL Instant Messenger which make machines vulnerable to viruses of the kind that come in email--this is on Windows machines, not on MAC's. See http://www.w00w00.org/advisories/aim.html. I checked this out because because my sister was visiting and was using Instant Mesenger to contact her daughters and because my grandchildren use it. Myron At 07:51 AM 23/04/2002 -0700, you wrote: >I have AOL instant messenger under MarilynnJn >marilynn > ------------------------------ From: ArtfulCarol@aol.com Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 10:01:52 EDT Subject: [Baren 17949] Re: Instant Message Dan , who asked about Instant Message: I have been using IM every day for years and never had any trouble. Fast, convenient, useful, and fun. Other advantages, too. Carol ------------------------------ From: Myron Turner Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 09:19:49 -0500 Subject: [Baren 17950] Re: Baren Digest V19 #1807 I've been using Photoshop for quite a while now for a variety of applications. For instance, for illustrations for some children's books I've been fooling around with during the past couple of years, for a set of 9 etched glass windows (the 3 main windows each 5 feet square) in a nursing home synagogue, and for my woodcuts. It saves untold hours of labor--you can try things out, shift things around--combine drawings with photographic elements--make alterations on screen--print out a result, work on it in the studio--rescan it, add elements, etc, etc. And you can print out multiple copies to work on in the studio. In the case of the windows, for instance, I designed two of the large windows first as black and white woodcuts, which I laid out from various elements using photoshop. Then I was able to scan the woodcuts, work on them in photoshop,come up with the final designs and present them to the client by printing them out on an inkjet printer in photo quality format. With my current work, woodcuts based on zoomed digital images, without photoshop there wouldn't be any woodcuts. (Getting the final reversed image for transfer to the block is an instantaneous click of the mouse.) (Sorry to be so talkative this a.m.) Myron At 10:53 PM 23/04/2002 -0700, you wrote: >I've been learning Adobe Illustrator lately and I'm >looking forward to planning woodcuts using that program! Has anyone tried >that yet? >Jean Eger Womack >http://www.jeaneger.com ------------------------------ From: Mike Lyon Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 09:45:39 -0500 Subject: [Baren 17951] Re: Baren Digest V19 #1807 Me, too... Me too, Myron! And I also use Corel Draw a lot. I really use layers to good advantage in both programs! They lend themselves to multi-block prints (remember Li-lu in the movie the "Fifth Element"? 'mool-tee-pass') well, I do mool-tee-block !! The ability of Photoshop to manipulate layers, selectively change transparency (and other woodblock-like effects) really helps plan prints FAST. I generally digitize my original sketches or drawings, and work from there. I do it the old fashioned way, too, but I am so much free-er and fast-er using the comput-er !! My computer's such a great tool, but many people, even artists, stigmatize its application to visual art... Only a 'handful' of centuries ago woodblock printing was a brand-new technology in Europe and the fine art of hand-copying was forever lost... Email does nothing to improve penmanship, but WOW -- are we able to communicate efficiently, or WHAT!? Mike ------------------------------ From: Myron Turner Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 10:19:22 -0500 Subject: [Baren 17952] Re: Baren Digest V19 #1807 During the early years of the printing press, there were also people who complained about books! At 09:45 AM 24/04/2002 -0500, you wrote: >My computer's such a great tool, but many people, even artists, stigmatize >its application to visual art... >>Myron > >Mike Lyon >mailto:mikelyon@mlyon.com >http://www.mlyon.com ------------------------------ From: "PHARE-CAMP,PATTI (HP-USA,ex1)" Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 08:56:58 -0700 Subject: [Baren 17953] RE: Baren Digest V19 #1808 I too didn't think reversing the image was important if there was no text. Then I did a print of some of one my sketches while visiting Japan...The full moon is on the wrong side of Mt. Fuji and she is looking in the wrong direction! And I didn't even see it till I did an A/P...OUCH...Patti Phare-Camp ------------------------------ From: Daniel Dew Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:30:36 -0400 Subject: [Baren 17954] Instant Messenger The ultimate real reason for my question was this: I plan on trying to do the Moka Hanga boogie soon and was hoping I could find a pal with IAM capabilities to walk me through e few thingies. Dan Dew ------------------------------ From: barebonesart Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 10:54:34 -0700 Subject: [Baren 17955] Re: Baren Digest V19 #1808 There are lots of good citrus based hand cleaners - some to be used with water, some without, and some do both. A little trick I learned in Amsterdaym: baby powder. Yes! A printmaker was demonstrating etchings in the park and not wearing gloves. His hands were black, but he kept his paper sparkling clean by dusting his hands with bp before handling the paper. It works! So now, if I happen to get my hands in the ink after I've removed the gloves a little powder saves time. A friendly reminder: please don't include the entire digest with your replies. It's a simple thing to "erase all" before typing in your answer. Sharri ------------------------------ From: "Jeanne N. Chase" Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 19:38:15 -0400 Subject: [Baren 17956] Re: paint thinner In regards to gloves. I discovered two years ago that I was allergic to latex. I wore latex gloves and my hands broke out in a terrible rash. Thinking this was just "one of those things", I sprained my ankle and had to wear a latex ankle brace. Wow, I really broke out in a more than terrible rash. It took a month to clear up. I now get these cotton work gloves. They are cumbersome but at least they do not cause rashes.=20 A word to the wise, just in case. Jeanne N. ------------------------------ From: Legreenart@cs.com Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 01:59:18 EDT Subject: [Baren 17957] Re: make your own graphite paper Another substance besides the chalk etc. already mentioned, that makes a nice transfer paper is graphite. empty the pencil sharpener into a strainer, and sift out the wood. proceed with the cotton balls...or paper towels if you don't have any. We are loking for interns and residenct printmakers at stonemetal to act as studio monitors in exchange for use of the facilities, if anyone is interested. Yours, Le Green ------------------------------ From: "John Cleverdon" Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 00:47:02 -0700 Subject: [Baren 17958] Re: Baren Digest V19 #1808 Sharri: Using baby powder on your hands sounds like a great way to keep the paper clean. John Point Clear, AL ------------------------------ From: "John Cleverdon" Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 01:29:52 -0700 Subject: [Baren 17959] Re: paint thinner Cathryn: I appreciate your concern, but I have never heard that mineral spirits is a carcinogen. Have there been recent studies of chronic effects of exposure to mineral spirits and/or mineral spirits vapors? I was taught that mineral spirits is one of the least toxic solvents. It is true that it's not perfectly safe, so I take care to avoid getting it on my skin and to keep to a minimum my exposure to the vapors. Obviously there are some people, e.g. pregnant women, who should not breath any solvent vapors, just like they should not drink any alcohol (which is also a solvent). I think you may have confused mineral oil with mineral spirits. Mineral oil is not a solvent. It's basically the same thing as baby oil, except it doesn't have perfume. I use the mineral oil to clean ink off my hands. Then I wash my hands with soap and water. John ------------------------------ From: "John Cleverdon" Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 01:43:12 -0700 Subject: [Baren 17960] Re: paint thinner Myron: You need to check what's in those hand cleaners. Some hand cleaners contain solvents and some have pumice. The pumice can scrape off some of your skin, reducing its effectiveness as a barrier. John ------------------------------ From: "Rudolf Stalder" Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 08:50:26 -0700 Subject: [Baren 17961] Large Print Exchange Large Print Exchange Jean Womack writes : "How's the progress of the big print exchange going? I haven't heard from Rudolph in a while. The effort to print ten big hanga-style prints was more than I imagined." The LPE is going well. Delays occur mainly related to the problem you mention: considerable work-load. Will report at Barens in about a month when the prints are likely redistributed and sent back. (A message to the group was sent out at about the same time you sent your note to Barens) best for all Rudolf ------------------------------ From: Myron Turner Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 07:59:00 -0500 Subject: [Baren 17962] Re: paint thinner I've had the experience--washing between each print, when I wasn't wearing gloves, and ending the day with sore hands! At 01:43 AM 25/04/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Myron: > >You need to check what's in those hand cleaners. Some hand cleaners >contain solvents and some have pumice. The pumice can scrape off some of >your skin, reducing its effectiveness as a barrier. > >John > ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V19 #1809 *****************************