Baren Digest Monday, 8 April 2002 Volume 19 : Number 1791 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "marilynn smih" Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 12:11:10 -0700 Subject: [Baren 17809] Re: Baren Digest V18 #1790 For those using the digest form if you are using hotmail check the options area and it will give you an option to send without returning the whole list. Internet explorer also has an area for doing this, but I have forgotten how, try the help section and you will probably find it. That way we will not recieve copies of the whole digest along with the new one, thanks. Carol thanks for you work on the firemans prints. Marilynn ------------------------------ From: "Bill H Ritchie Jr" Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 12:58:39 -0700 Subject: [Baren 17810] Re: Electro Etching Dan wrote this is an off topic issue, I think. To ask about electro etching. Darn! I was really getting a lot of help from this for my "Music" print, folio 13. Oh well. I found a great site in France for it. But, wait a minute. I have a video of Claire Van Vliet called "Relief Etching" and it's obvious that the print is a relief print. And Claire won the Genius Award (MacArthur Foundation's quarter-milion dollar prize). When I taught printmaking, I taught that printmaking was actually two operations: Plate Making and Print Making. There are thousands of ways to make a plate, and hundreds of materials and millions of tools. But when it comes to printing, there are four (unless you go down the the electrophotochemical and digital level) for printing: Relief, intaglio, stencil and plano) which all refer to "where's the ink?" In relief printmaking, a favorite expression in my class was, "What up, prints." So, if you make the relief printing plate by using electro-etching, what's up prints--am I right? Bill H. Ritchie, Jr 500 Aloha #105 Seattle WA 98109 (206) 285-0658 mailto:ritchie@seanet.com Web sites: Professional: www.seanet.com/~ritchie Virtual Gallery and E-Store: www.myartpatron.com First Game Portal: www.artsport.com ------------------------------ From: "Dan Sabo" Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 16:47:30 -0400 Subject: [Baren 17811] Re: Electro Etching Bill, there is a new discussion forum I set up yesterday for electric etching at.. http://www.dansabo.com/cgi-bin/agnes.cgi?ElectretchAgnes+ElectretchAgnesHTML Check it out. Dan - -----Original Message----- From: owner-baren@ml.asahi-net.or.jp [mailto:owner-baren@ml.asahi-net.or.jp]On Behalf Of Bill H Ritchie Jr Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 3:59 PM To: baren@ml.asahi-net.or.jp Subject: [Baren 17810] Re: Electro Etching Dan wrote this is an off topic issue, I think. To ask about electro etching. Darn! I was really getting a lot of help from this for my "Music" print, folio 13. Oh well. I found a great site in France for it. But, wait a minute. I have a video of Claire Van Vliet called "Relief Etching" and it's obvious that the print is a relief print. And Claire won the Genius Award (MacArthur Foundation's quarter-milion dollar prize). When I taught printmaking, I taught that printmaking was actually two operations: Plate Making and Print Making. There are thousands of ways to make a plate, and hundreds of materials and millions of tools. But when it comes to printing, there are four (unless you go down the the electrophotochemical and digital level) for printing: Relief, intaglio, stencil and plano) which all refer to "where's the ink?" In relief printmaking, a favorite expression in my class was, "What up, prints." So, if you make the relief printing plate by using electro-etching, what's up prints--am I right? Bill H. Ritchie, Jr 500 Aloha #105 Seattle WA 98109 (206) 285-0658 mailto:ritchie@seanet.com Web sites: Professional: www.seanet.com/~ritchie Virtual Gallery and E-Store: www.myartpatron.com First Game Portal: www.artsport.com ------------------------------ From: Charles Morgan Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 13:51:09 -0700 Subject: [none] Bill wrote: > > >In relief printmaking, a favorite expression in my class was, "What up, >prints." So, if you make the relief printing plate by using electro-etching, >what's up prints--am I right? > Right on, Bill, and that is what I hope to do. BUT the topic is off for WOODBLOCK printing. Now if someone comes up with a reasonable way to etch wood (concentrated lye solution???) I would be happy to try it!!! Cheers ..... Charles ------------------------------ From: "marilynn smih" Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 14:41:51 -0700 Subject: [Baren 17813] Re: Baren Digest V18 #1790 Pardon the second message but this is a technical question. I am working on linoleum and not wood so I hope that is not an infraction. I ran this plate as a black and white print and now want to do it with yellow and than red. I ran one yellow today and yikes I had black ink in with the yellow. I had scrubbed the plate well with a toothbrush with both cooking oil and than soap, I thought I had it all. I did this process again and hopefully have it all. The question is , is there a better way to clean all that black off? Also my brayer has black on it ahd I scrubbed it too with a toothbrush. But those crevaces behind the roller are hard to clean thoroughly. Is there a better way? I am thinking that with a brayer perhaps I need one for black and one for light colors, but here I can not just run to the store and buy another, so I must use what I have on hand. Marilynn ------------------------------ From: "Lee and Barbara Mason" Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 17:25:06 -0700 Subject: [Baren 17815] roller clean up Marilyn, The best way to clean rollers is with solvent...rats. Hate to say it. When I use solvent I use gamsol from Gamblin Ink as it is the safest, almost impossible to get it into your body unless you mist it into the air and breath it or drink it. If you want to only use cooking oil, you might try cleaning a second time with alcohol, you know, regular rubbing alcohol. I usually clean up with water after the oil, but with rollers it is harder to get it all off. Just soak them good in the oil and keep wiping them, I use viva paper towels, and get a que-tip in there around that mechanism. You can do this. I know what you mean about black, it is tougher to get off, even off your hands. Determination and perspiration are the key here! Best to you, Barbara > ------------------------------ From: Minna Sora Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 11:45:20 +0300 Subject: [Baren 17816] Re: block clean up For blocks in my opinion it's best to cover them before printing with some kind of varnish especially cut areas because they are rough Minna Sora ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V18 #1791 *****************************