Baren Digest               Thursday, 4 April 2002       Volume 19 : Number 1787


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From: "marilynn smih" <marilynnsmih@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 08:31:25 -0800
Subject: [Baren 17770] Re: Baren Digest V18 #1786 

Dan regarding your Escher like compositions a friend of mine said my 
friemans print looked like an Escher.  Yes I was jumpimg around with that 
comment.  But another person and several others have said what is it?  
Sounds to me like you should just keep doing what comes, you are following 
your artists instincts and finding perhaps a new path, how exciting!!  I get 
what is it a lot and know that when I show them the block they understand 
better.  So I think it is a marvelous idea to preserve the blocks and when 
possible show them with the work so people understand.
Marilynn


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From: "Bill H Ritchie Jr" <ritchie@seanet.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 16:53:12 -0800
Subject: [Baren 17771] Baren Digest V18 #1786 - Selling 

Maria wrote to Gilda: "Bill Ritchie has one, don't you Bill?"

Yes--you can read it online free in Acrobat at

http://www.artsport.com/apasaebk.html

And you can also buy it from me online or from amazon.com or Border's Books.

Don't get mixed up and buy Zella Jackson's book by mistake--smile.

just e-mail for more info.

I'm making a DVD on it now, and I'm looking for "testers" who have PC/DVD
players on their Windows computers. It's about 20 or so minutes long, made
of 1-minute "sound bites". Kinda fun.

Bill H. Ritchie, Jr
500 Aloha #105
Seattle WA 98109
(206) 285-0658
mailto:ritchie@seanet.com
Web sites:
Professional: www.seanet.com/~ritchie
Virtual Gallery and E-Store: www.myartpatron.com
First Game Portal: www.artsport.com


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From: b.patera@att.net
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 01:04:08 +0000
Subject: [Baren 17772] Exchange 13... Music 

Hi,

Have tried to send a message about exchange 13 to the 
following:

Roger Lee
Linda Hornberger
Monica Bright
Sylvia Taylor
Aimee Youmans
Kathy Chvojka

For some reason all have bounced back. Could you all 
contact me? Thanks!

Regards,

Barbara Patera


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From: "April Vollmer" <april@aprilvollmer.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 21:28:35 -0500
Subject: [Baren 17773] Silver and Gold 

James and Maria, you make me happy to read Baren again!

Maybe I should go to DC, sounds like a great show, I love those botanicals
(they are always best with insects!) and Maria, you are an inspiration.

I was also very interested in Dave's note about printing over gold. I would
love to try this if he has any suggestions about how to go about it. Print
in oil, then lay the gold leaf over the wet oil base ink?

I have used mica on some of my new prints, referring to Dave's instructions.
The only problem I encountered was that it tends to fly up and get all over
the place. Such fine particles are dangerous to inhale, so I had to set up
an 'exhaling' window fan. The prints look great, though, very metallic. I
printed with gum arabic, then sprinkled on mica powder.

I have two 27" x 27" prints in the show, the secret, Dave, is that they are
very messy! I also figured out a way to print from small blocks, by rotating
the paper. Since the images are symmetrical, I only cut a quarter of the
image, and printed it four times. Kizuki hanga is the right paper for that
job, its tough, with a rather coarse fiber. The Yamaguchi was the right
paper for the finer prints with more detail. Anyway I am excited about
finding some new directions for hanga woodcut, it's not ukiyo-e, that's for
sure!

April
www.aprilvollmer.com


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From: Dan Dew <ddew0001@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 21:49:07 -0500
Subject: [Baren 17774] New Search Engine 

I heard about a new search engine I had to try out called
Teoma.com

Looky what I found:

http://www.teoma.com/search.asp?t=wood+block+printmaking&qcat=1&qsrc=0

Interesting that so many of the names are Baren members.

Happy hunting.


dan dew


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From: Mobile101@aol.com
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 23:45:45 EST
Subject: [Baren 17775] Re: selling 

Maria, 
Thank you for being so open with me about your income. I had been a little 
afraid to ask directly (didn't want to get to personal) but it was what I was 
needing to know. As always you seem to be all so willing to help others by 
sharing your experiences. Your directness is greatly appreciated. Wishing you 
all the best in Tempe. Gilda

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From: juan <viscult@prodigy.net.mx>
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 23:19:47 -0600
Subject: [Baren 17776] new web page 

DEAR BARENERS,

Hi to every one. This is just to invite you to visit my new web page:

www.juanguerrero.galeon.com

I would really appreciate your comments,

Enjoy,

Juan Guerrero, Mexico



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From: Vishnovus@aol.com
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 00:38:53 EST
Subject: [Baren 17777] Re: new web page 

In a message dated 4/4/02 12:20:20 AM, viscult@prodigy.net.mx writes:

<< www.juanguerrero.galeon.com >>

Juan, I could be my server, but I couldnt get your pages to load.
Ld Lawrence

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From: "Lee and Barbara Mason" <bemason@concentric.net>
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 23:35:58 -0800
Subject: [Baren 17778] new web page  

Juan,
Your work is very interesting. I especially liked the top left hand one in
the third gallery. Wish I could see them in person!
Nice web site, you did a good job with it.
Barbara


> Hi to every one. This is just to invite you to visit my new web page:
>
> www.juanguerrero.galeon.com
>
> I would really appreciate your comments,
>
> Enjoy,
>
> Juan Guerrero, Mexico
>
>
>



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From: David Bull <davebull@woodblock.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 16:45:57 +0900
Subject: [Baren 17779] Re: Silver and Gold 

April wrote:

> I was also very interested in Dave's note about printing over gold. I 
> would
> love to try this if he has any suggestions about how to go about it. 
> Print
> in oil, then lay the gold leaf over the wet oil base ink?


About printing _over_ gold I still have no idea. I've seen prints where 
this has been done, but don't know the 'key' to getting the pigment to 
stick on top of the gold. If I were experimenting with this, I would try 
adding pretty thick binder stuff (gum arabic?) to the pigment, to see if 
that helped it to stay in place.

As for getting the gold in place on the paper, it doesn't have to be 
over oil-base ink, as I outlined the other day. You can take an 
impression of a carved area with just nikawa (glue), then lay the leaf 
over the face of the print, 'float' it down with a feather, then brush 
off the unneeded parts with a slightly stiffer brush.

I'm toying with the idea of a gold-leaf print for obligatory 'fan print' 
in this year's album, so maybe in a few months I'll have better 
knowledge on this stuff ...


> Anyway I am excited about
> finding some new directions for hanga woodcut, it's not ukiyo-e, that's 
> for
> sure!


No, not many people left making ukiyo-e any more, and that the way it 
should be!

Dave


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From: "Lee and Barbara Mason" <bemason@concentric.net>
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 00:57:03 -0800
Subject: [Baren 17780] gold leaf 

April,
I am sure you could print oil based inks over foil, but wouldn't it be
easier to just get the foil where you wanted it and not print over it? Could
you not do this by printing a block that had only glue on it? I have some
great glue here that I use for drawing on prints and adhearing gold leaf to
them. It is called "Ailene's foiling glue" I mix it 1/2 and 1/2 with water
to get it to the consistency to draw with and then squeeze it out of a small
bottle through a pointed spout with a tiny hole in it, I just draw with it.
The glue goes down white and dries clear, but remains sticky. Takes about 30
minutes to dry. So sheets of gold leaf stick to wherever the glue is. I
just brush off the excess with  soft  2" paint brush. I have a fair amount
of crumbled gold scraps if anyone wants to try the mica trick using the
gold. I think it would stick in the same way. Dave suggested putting powder
with it as I recall, to keep it from sticking together. I will have to find
that post or one point lesson. Just a thought to try, this is always how we
invent new stuff. I know this is a polymer glue so not quite as archival as
all our waterbased stuff, but still good. Maybe I will try this on the music
print. One more thing to make me crazy....
Barbara

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