Baren Digest              Friday, 18 January 2002      Volume 18 : Number 1689


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From: G Wohlken <blueman@pantek.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 08:55:56 -0500
Subject: [Baren 16711] Re: Baren Digest V18 #1688 


> >I'd love to do a hand-printed book on handmade
>> paper, but am not sure I can commit to the time element involved.

It takes a lot of time to do your own.  I've told about this before on 
Baren, but for the new people who are thinking of doing this and 
wondered about it--  I did my own edition of poetry books and handfed 
each page of heavy acid free book quality paper (by Mohawk) into my 
laser printer( after having  scanned in the woodcut images, sizing them 
to the page and working out the text as I wanted it).  Then I 
handstitched the pages with linen thread, and bound each book using a 
nipping press and archival pastes.    The poems in the book were those 
of people in my area who were well known academic as well as coffee 
house poets.  I sold some of the books at a couple galleries and 
bookstores.  It was a rewarding project, but one I grew tired of.  If 
you think an edition of prints can be daunting, try an edition of books! 
 My plan was to make 100 but think I got up into the 60's and other 
projects caught my eye.  It's good, Maria, you have someone else to do 
the mechanical work.  The first few you make yourself are fun, but 
something happens down the road where the fire of excitement begins to 
wane.  I've not been tempted to do another book unless it's one where I 
make only a few copies with the actual woodcuts in them (not laser 
printed reproductions)  and then it would be more a work of art in a 
small edition.  I've been thinking about that one, and have an idea that 
hasn't come to fruition yet, as I keep signing up for projects on Baren, 
instead, since there's that greater temptation to have our work seen 
around the world (rather than just in the neighborhood).   [:-)] 

Gayle        
Ohio, USA



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From: Bobbi Chukran <bobbi.chukran@mindspring.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:38:57 -0500
Subject: [Baren 16712] Re: Baren Digest V18 #1688 

Gayle wrote: < I've not been tempted to do another book unless it's one
where I

>make only a few copies with the actual woodcuts in them (not laser
>printed reproductions)  and then it would be more a work of art in a
>small edition>>


Right, that's what I was thinking of doing.  Have the text part of the book
printed commercially on really nice paper, then "tip in" the tiny prints.
Sigh.  To have the time to do "art" like that.

Bobbi C.
*Loves* books





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From: Wanda <robertson@canby.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:02:43 -0800
Subject: [Baren 16713] Re: oop! (Maria's poetry book) 

Nancy (and everyone else) most of us don't worry much about spelling - it's the
content we enjoy! I just couldn't figure out what kind of exotic thing your
friend was making out of wood. Some kind of amalgamation between a crow (bird)
and a bow (weapon) Ah, crossbows! Very interesting.

Yes, Baren is a fountain of information on all kinds of subjects. And especially
Japanese woodblock and technique. You will really enjoy it here.

Maria, congratulations! Be sure to let us all know when the book is published &
where to purchase it. I know that many people on Baren will be interested. I've
been thinking about a book of prints - ala Masereel - but that is about as far as
I've gotten so far. I do have the grey hair required, though. 

Wanda



"N.D. Wederstrandt" wrote:


> Sorry about the misspellings - I will try to be more careful.
> 
> Nancy



Bea Gold wrote:

> 
> I sent this out to the Baren list on December 21 - Do any of you have the
> sizes for the exchanges since the beginning?  I couldn't find the
> information on the Barenforum.com.  exchange pages.  Time to do it!  Bea
> 
> I realized that we do not have an exchange in process after #12 - With the
> new year approaching it's time to think and make plans for 2002.
> I went back into the files and looked up the original Exchange that happened
> in 1998 - started and planned in 1997 - I looked at the list of First
> Timers - very impressive!!  Please look at this page:
> http://barenforum.org/exchange/exchange_99/exchange_frame.html I would love
> to welcome many of you/them back into the Exchange game for 2002.   I'm
> leaving for Charleston, SC on Monday (son getting married) and don't know if
> I cam get this discussion well underway before then.   We could do a
> complete repeat of the first 13 - except with the new topics we agreed on in
> 2001 -  Please think about what you'd like to see happen and we'll talk
> about it at the beginning of the new year.  Thinking, Bea


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From: Wanda <robertson@canby.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:31:09 -0800
Subject: [Baren 16714] Baren exchanges 

Hi everyone,

And a big welcome to all our new members! I'd like to take a little band-width to
remind everyone to check out the http://www.barenforum.org website. There you
will find an astounding amount of information and interesting stuff. Be sure to
take a peek at the "exchange gallery" and please feel free to comment on the
different prints in those galleries. I don't know how others feel about that
feedback form - but I think it is highly underused! I know we are all busy, busy,
busy - but take a little time to send a comment to the artists about different
prints you see there. Or questions, etc. etc. 

I hope everyone is enjoying the beginnings of this great New Year of 2002! I hope
it brings all of us many joys and much healing. Art is a wonderful route of
communication and I hope that everyone will participate in something with Baren
during the year.

Happy New Year!

Wanda

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From: Cucamongie@aol.com
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 14:29:57 EST
Subject: [Baren 16715] dogs on fiberglass! 


warning, unwoodblock-related stuff!  I know a lot of you are painters as well 
as printmakers, so here goes:
I was just accepted to be part of a project called "Art Unleashed," a similar 
concept to the Cow Parade except that I will be painting a fiberglass dog, 
which will be exhibited in Haverford, PA.  I'm assuming that acrylic paint 
will work fine on the pooch - anyone have experience painting on such a 
surface?  I'm wondering if I would need to coat the acrylic paint with 
anything.  Also, does anyone know if carbon paper would work to transfer an 
image to this type of surface?

thanks a lot!
Sarah


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From: "Mary Kuster" <mkuster@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 14:39:52 -0500
Subject: [Baren 16716] Re: dogs on fiberglass! 

Here in Lexington KY we did horses and wildcats.   The horses were large 
and sat outside, the wildcats are smaller and stay inside.  They were 
clear coated at a car body shop when completed.
Kuster

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From: "Robert Canaga Gallery" <rcg@robertcanagagallery.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:49:31 -0800
Subject: [Baren 16717] Re: puckering paper 

Hi, Long time no speak. The Gallery business is eating all my time
though I have been printing some.
For all you Northwesterners: We are showing Susan Lowdermilk( MFA from U
of O, teaches at Lane Com. Col. and Marlis Killerman( from Germany,
bookmaker)  Should be a great show.

Also, does anyone know who collects Gordon Gilkey work?
I have one of the Knight Library prints he made for his MFA that he
signed for me(there are only 2 of each, one in the big book at Portland
Art Museum.

I have been having a lot of trouble with paper I have been using. It 
looks like Kitakata but is just a bit thicker. When I print on it with 
any moisture it puckers horribly. I don't recall it ever doing that 
before. Any suggestion to prevent this?

Thanks
Robert Canaga


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From: "Maria Arango" <maria@mariarango.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:17:51 -0800
Subject: [Baren 16718] a shameless plug 

Hello all,

I recently ordered paper from Graphic Chemical and they were out of my
favorite engraving paper. Whilst they look for a new source (for Basingwerk)
they were kind enough to send me a few FULL SHEET samples of suitable
substitutes. I usually don't plug any supplier because I use many, but this
really deserves a round of applause in a world that isn't exactly getting
any more polite.

Thanks Graphic Chemical, I only wished I lived closer so that I could load
up my truck often. This really was one of those touching "above and beyond"
things, which, when coupled with the paper we received for the firemen's
benefit print really indicates (at least to me) what type of folks these
are.

Off to Palm Desert now.
Health to all,
Maria



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From: ArtfulCarol@aol.com
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:36:44 EST
Subject: [Baren 16719] Re:Graphic Chemical 

When we write up the portfolio for the Firemens Benefit we will be sure to 
thank  GRAPHIC CHEMICAL for donating paper.

Carol Lyons
Irvington, NY

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From: Printmaker <severn@acay.com.au>
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:15:26 +1100
Subject: [Baren 16720] Horses  

Hi Everyone

My horse cards were posted a couple of days ago, hope you
all enjoy. I used several types of japanese paper to print
on, and a range of inks in blue/greens. Then they were
mounted on samples of handmade paper. This is most
definitely a variable edition! What a wonderful way to use
up studio scraps. And what a delight to open the mailbox
each day.

Michelle wrote me and asked about my address which is
missing from one of the two horse listings. It is recorded
on Julio's list which can be found at
http://www.skokienet.org/bandits/jcrstuff/horsesite.html
Julio, are you putting them online again this year?

I noticed someone mentioned they were going to send theirs
out without envelopes. Please don't, they get awfully
trashed in the mail, the majority that come to me are coming
from the other side of the globe, its a long long way. 
Frank's plastic envelope was torn and the print slightly
damaged when it arrived.

Mary K, I laughed out loud at your humour. And Ruth's lovely
paper is of course recycled and handmade. Did you make it
yourself Ruth? It looks like recycled ragpaper, what did you
use?

Josephine
(waiting for the postman)

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From: "Jeanne N. Chase" <studiojnc@prodigy.net>
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 18:42:01 -0500
Subject: [Baren 16721] Concerned 
Dear Fellow Bareners

Feeling very guilty about not answering all of the wonderful cards from =
you re; the fire.
I am just now fighting back a terrific case of pneumonia and hope when =
it is conquered that I can catch up on my Thank yours!

I hope another shoe does not drop.

Luv

Jeanne N.


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From: "John and/or Michelle Morrell" <jmmorrell@gci.net>
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:11:35 -0900
Subject: [Baren 16722] Baren #11 -- Oops again 

Josephine wrote that she'd just received 2 of Elizabeth Atwood's lilies.
Did anyone in the exchange not get a copy?  Please let me know if you did
not, and we will get you a copy.


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From: "kate courchaine" <katecourchaine@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 05:18:38 
Subject: [Baren 16723] A Postal Request-for horses 

All the horses galloping into my box are great!  Quite a variety of 
approaches and mediums.  In hopes that these horses make it to their 
destination unscathed, I would like to request that people write 'do not 
bend' on the envelopes of the light weight ones.  Just to remind the postal 
people not to fold them while tucking them into the box.

*Did you know - the expression 'going postal' is now offically part of the 
english language, and is listed in the dictionary.

Congrats Maria! Sounds like a neat project.

Kate C





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