Baren Digest              Sunday, 9 December 2001      Volume 17 : Number 1644


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From: John and Jan Telfer <jtelfer@iinet.net.au>
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 01 22:55:24 -0000
Subject: [Baren 16377] Re: Marco's Demonstration 

Dear Jean,

This would have been a very informative night at the Presidio Officers 
Club....

>I attended a great printmaking demonstration last night at the Presidio
>Officers Club in San Francisco, sponsored by the Asian Art Museum of San
>Francisco.  Our own Marco Flavio Marinucci demonstrated Japanese-style
>printing.  First he gave a very informative and wide-ranging talk about
>Japanese woodblock printing, including a good description of the
>tourist-memento nature of Ukiyo-e prints.


Congratulations, Marco....I can just picture your demonstration so 
clearly...I too would have liked to have been there, Maria.

Bill Ritchie wrote:

>Imagine watching Mario's hands, and a place on the screen that says "Go to
>Mario's Web site" or "Go to woodcut.org" etc.

I hope that also says "for slow motion replay press here"....because if 
you have seen Marco working you will definitely need the "pause" button 
every few seconds! Eh, Marco?


Were you able to get there too Nancy?

Thank you Jean for your very informative report on these Meiji prints.  
When the Monet & Japan Exhibition was here in Perth I too queried the 
state of the colours, especially the brilliant maroon reds in some of the 
prints at Gallery East and I am sure that they wouldn't have survived in 
that condition all those years!  The onw thing that really impressed me 
was the number of colours that were used after the key block and all of 
them so well registered. Oh,.... big sigh!!!!...One day!

Thanks, Jean,
Jan

 

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From: ArtfulCarol@aol.com
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 13:11:53 EST
Subject: [Baren 16378] Re:  Bravos 

Several Bravos:
1.I saw Marco at the Presidio in SF when he was giving impromptu woodblock 
info to people coming to the exhibit there.   He had showcases with his 
blocks and the corresponding prints showing the stages the print went 
through.  Very effective. I enjoyed chatting and seeing Marco again. ( I make 
regular visits to daughter)

2.  Thank you to Jean Eger for the informative report on the Mejii Exhibit at 
the Presidio.  I didnt have time to take the audio and I appreciate  the 
thoroughness.

3.   Congratulations to Sarah Hauser for the Purchase Award at the Purdue 
University Galleries National Small Print Competition. 

Aren't we busy??!!

Carol Lyons
Irvington, NY

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From: "G. Wohlken" <blueman@pantek.com>
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 13:38:19 -0500
Subject: [Baren 16379] Exchange prints viewed 

I was invited to share my folios of Baren Exchange prints, as well as 
some of my own work, with the printmaking class at Hiram College on Friday.  
I  also showed the class the tools for hanga and it was nice to be able to back 
that up with actual hanga prints.  The class is about to do their first two-color 
woodcuts and my own color blocks helped them to see how the color blocks look.
By the way, the class liked everyone's work.  A few of the students who like
animals appreciated Sarah's prints of dogs, and Andrea Rich's skill was 
admired as well.  There were a lot of oohs and ahhhs about many prints. 
Questions were asked about Julio's and Dave Bull's  self portraits.   One person said 
he felt intimidated by the skill in many of  the prints they were being shown 
until I assured him a number of the  participants are veteran printmakers as well as 
instructors.  I showed the whole gamut,  though, and by the time my part of the session was 
over, they were ready to get started on their own.  It made me realize how important 
these exchanges are educationally.  And, I told them about the Baren forum.  I hope they 
check us out as we do have that wonderful encyclopedia.  I even brought along my fat loose 
leaf notebook of pages I printed out  from the encyclopedia,  and stuff I brought back 
from bootcamp. Horatio's prints quickly became recognizable by the class and everytime 
one would show up in the pile from a particular folio, someone would ask "Is that the man 
from Brazil's work?"  They were curious about Horatio's very thin paper.  I don't know what it is, 
either.

Thanks, everyone, for your contributions to my little presentation at 
Hiram.

Gayle



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From: Graham <gscholes@shaw.ca>
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 11:00:00 -0800
Subject: [Baren 16380] Re: Ishita's Website 

So very nice indeed. Your sense of design is very strong and offers compatibility between 
the old and new  (Japan) tradition images.  I gather that the images are open (not limited).  
Are you able to keep up with the printing or do you have help.

I think yours is the only other site I have seen that has adopted the horizontal viewing of the 
work.  Back in 1997 I hired someone to do this but alas he could not do it...  So I thought nonsense, 
certainly it could be done.After several books and much cursing with learning curve, I figured it 
out by May 1998, so that like in the real world one can peruse the works as though walking 
through a virtual gallery.

Congratulations.

Graham 


> > Anyway drop in, if you can:
>>
> > http://www.i-chubu.ne.jp/~stones/
>>
>> Dave S (Ishita)



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From: Bobbi Chukran <bobbi.chukran@mindspring.com>
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 13:21:02 -0500
Subject: [Baren 16381] Re: Inks.... 


>You can order online from the following:
>http://www.graphicchemical.net/
>http://www.rembrandtgraphicarts.com/
>http://utrecht.com


Speaking of inks, I used Speedball water based ink for the first time the
other day, and was horrified to find out that it isn't waterproof once dry.
I have used acrylic paints on my prints, but wanted a thicker ink for some
projects.

Are any of the waterbased inks actually waterproof after they dry?  I do a
lot of handpainting on the prints, and sure don't want the lines to
smear....

Bobbi C.



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From: Graham <gscholes@shaw.ca>
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 11:29:51 -0800
Subject: [Baren 16382] Re: Marco's Demonstration 

Jan wrote.....

>...because if  you have seen Marco working you will definitely
>need the "pause" button every few seconds! Eh, Marco?


Here here.....
I get tired watching him... as a matter of fact, thinking about his energy level tires me.
He come to Boot Camp and finishes 5 piece of which only 4 were carved, borders on obscene.
You can see the goods at:
http://members.home.net/woodblocks/2001wkspcasual.html
Mind you, we don't think he sleeps at all. As Richard Stockham stated... he works beyond late all the way to early as did most folks.

So Marco,  what is the objective this coming Boot Camp?
I think we will bring in a resuscitation crew ....
if not for you, certainly for Marnie and I.
 
Regards

Graham

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From: Graham <gscholes@shaw.ca>
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 11:38:15 -0800
Subject: [Baren 16383] Re: Inks.... 

Bobbi C. wrote.....


>Speaking of inks, I used Speedball water based ink for the first time the
>other day, and was horrified to find out that it isn't waterproof once dry.
>I have used acrylic paints on my prints, but wanted a thicker ink for some
>projects.


I offer that Speedball is less than respectable in quality. When Frank (the
master printer from Tamarind) was here for the week I got a first hand
explanation about the stuff and a warning. 
Don't use it....


>Are any of the waterbased inks actually waterproof after they dry? 


By virtue of being waterbase they can not be waterproof unless the are acrylic.


>I do a  lot of handpainting on the prints, and sure don't want the lines to
>smear....


The way around this is to go to Hanga. The pigments a re burnished into the paper and will not smear.
Brayer and press will not offer this luxury.

Graham





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From: FurryPressII@aol.com
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 16:06:46 EST
Subject: [Baren 16384] Re: exhibit coming up 

barbara  yes you can   john

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From: Graham <gscholes@shaw.ca>
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 22:27:43 -0800
Subject: [Baren 16385] The market for prints? 
I was waiting to see the response to this post.!

Bobbi C. Wrote.....


> It seems that many of you are successful at selling your
>prints from your websites...


No not true in British Columbia or Ontario.

and


> I realize that for the most part, prints seems more "friendly" to buyers
>(that's what I've been told anyway), and wonder what success ya'll have had
>selling from your websites?


It is my experience this sale over the web is not the case. I have it from
many artist here that sales of original fine art do not happen. There is
interest in poster art and a chap here in Victoria makes a very good living
by selling posters for under $25.00  That is about $16.00 yanky greenbacks.

I am not sure about the 'friendly' aspect of prints.  I don't believe that
John Q Public is over the scam of reproductions.  They don't trust prints is
the feed back from high end galleries who have put them on the back burner.
We have to do a major sales job on the reality of handmade works and
talk up a storm with every one we meet.


>I'm wondering how the market really is for prints now?  I'm also involved
>with several painter's groups,and some of them are having a really hard
>time right now because of clients who won't pay, or jobs that are falling
>through.


Yep its the sign of the times it seems. The dogged will survive and others
will move on to other ways of making an income.  I recall in 1991 and 1981
when the crunch came we lost many artist to "real" jobs....  I guess you can
look at it as a form of attrition in our profession. Check and balance I guess.


> Or do most of you sell from shows or
>galleries?  I'm in a position now that I can't do many shows (not that
>there are many good shows around here), but do want to vamp up the website
>and have a section strictly for the relief prints.


This is the first year in 25 that I did not have an exhibition of 
work. Could see
no point in spending .... $4 to $5 thousand bucks (Colour invitations, Mailing,
Advertising, Wine & Cheese, etc etc .... to make a few hundred.

Tighten up the belt folks ... my bet is it will be worse that previous.

Sorry about the bad news but..... it is bullet time...  as in bite.

Graham



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