Baren Digest              Friday, 30 November 2001      Volume 17 : Number 1635


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From: John and Jan Telfer <jtelfer@iinet.net.au>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 01 23:43:56 -0000
Subject: [Baren 16274] Re: Soaking Brushes 

Dear Kent,
Nice to hear from you and Graham of course with whom we have looooong 
conversations! I am also looking at my Bootcamp picture above my 
computer.....

Yes,

>You may recall that Jan (Boot Camp) was soaking her Hanga Bake 
>brushes ... these are the ones with the long handle and the hair is 
>bound with wire.  According to Jan this is OKY DOKY as per her 
>teacher.  I have soaked mine with no problems. On one of mine I did 
>make the mistake of pulling some hair out (I was impatient and in a 
>hurray at the time) and now it is bald.


Well, I did quietly follow this up again with a number of my printmaking 
connections and yes, that was what I was told.  The copper wire tightens 
around the swollen soaked duel or split wooden handles (half an hour at 
least before printing).  This grips the hairs more tightly and so are 
less likely to come out and the waterbased paint is slurped up into the 
bristles.....this is what we were also told to do before we used our 
calligraphy brushes from the calligraphy mistro himself.  These are very 
expensive brushes... I didn't need to burn and burnish them at Bootcamp 
either.

I also thoroughly washed them as Graham said after using them and used 
that mild soap...as I do with my watercolour painting brushes all the 
time....and flick them dry by hitting them on my other hand.  To dry them 
I have a board like Graham has with nails so that the hairs are facing 
downward and hanging free.  I never leave them standing on their 
bristles.  With my painting watercolour brushes I cut two grooves in 
opposite sides of a large yogurt or icecream container and lie the 
brushes across the top...or make yourself a little rack like I use for my 
calligraphy pens so that I don't have coloured blobs on my tablecloths!!!!

I haven't had any trouble with my dual handle brushes.

>
>A month or so ago Dave made some important suggestions about the way 
>he uses limited amounts of water to clean his brushes.  Maybe he will 
>post it again.

I have to wash mine thoroughly because I use mine for all different 
colours as I have only one of each in different sizes for my hanga.

But, then again I don't know everything!  

I need a "sugar-Daddy" so I can give up work and concentrate on my 
printing! Any offers?

Jan.





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From: John and Jan Telfer <jtelfer@iinet.net.au>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 01 23:44:33 -0000
Subject: [Baren 16275] Re: Somerset Studio Magazine 

Somerset Studio Magazine - Paper Arts - Art Stamping - Letter Arts
Gallery - Volume 11 (More than 800 Handcrafted Works of Art)
Published by Stampingon & Company in America
Somerset Studio is in Laguna Hills, California. 

You will be pleased to know that Baren Forum gets a mention on Page 48!!

Two years ago I sent in an article on woodblock printing with 6 or 7 of 
my orginal 40 x 35 cm prints (twice magazine page size in inches!) and it 
has finally been printed!!!  Two of the prints and a reverse shadow of 
another are not the ones I would have picked to illustrate my article, 
but I had no control over that!!

Several of my faux postage and lino printed cards appear on pages 3, 
91,107,122 (PB4) and no, I didn't pay to put them in there or "buy or 
bribe the company"!

The magazine is available in Australia through the shops where crafty 
rubber stamps are sold so that is where you may get it in America too.

That's my little bit of trivia for today!!!

Jan
Downunder in sunny Western Australia.

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From: "April Vollmer" <april@aprilvollmer.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 11:04:18 -0500
Subject: [Baren 16276] RE: Baren Digest V17 #1632 

FOO KWEE HORNG, yes, we had an opportunity to see some of those
'revolutionary' prints at the China show here at the Guggenheim in New York
a few years ago. I am sorry I don't remember the names of the artists, but
they showed books and posters from the 30's, mainly political in natutre,
that had the bold compositions related to the graphic work of the Russian
constructivists. I had never seen them before, a revelation that so much
woodcut was being don in China. I was not sure if the prints were waterbase
or oil base, though. I think I was surprised they were in oil, using the
western approach. Is that correct?
April Vollmer
174 Eldridge St, NYC 10002
www.aprilvollmer.com

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From: Graham <gscholes@home.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 08:12:02 -0800
Subject: [Baren 16277] Re: Somerset Studio Magazine 



Way to go Jan.....


>That's my little bit of trivia for today!!!


Not trivia when you get published.  It is always a wonderful sense of 
accomplishment and your mind thinks 'have I made it to the big league 
of the published world'  Damn tough to do.  Congratulations... 
couldn't happen to a nicer person.
Editors note:   You meet a few people in this world that are special. 
Jan is one of them.
Now I have gone and embarrassed her.

You can meet Jan at....
http://members.home.net/woodblocks/2001wkspcasual.html
bottom of the page....

Graham



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From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:31:05 -0600
Subject: [Baren 16278] Re: Chinese woodblock prints 11/29/2001 10:31:04 AM 

Hi Foo, I have a book on Chinese woodcuts from the 30's-40's...lot of
social & war related images. All B&W, about 40-50 prints. Let me know if
you are interested in seeing some of the images, perhaps I can scan and put
online for you.

regards,   Julio


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From: Wanda <robertson@canby.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:30:58 -0800
Subject: [Baren 16279] Re: Chinese woodblock prints 

FOO KWEE HORNG wrote:
<snip>

> On a personal level, I
> am currently doing a MA research in the development of woodcuts
> in pre-war Singapore and will be helping the National University
> of Singapore with an exhibtion of post-war woodcut prints (1950s)

<snip>

and

April Vollmer wrote:

> 
> FOO KWEE HORNG, yes, we had an opportunity to see some of those
> 'revolutionary' prints at the China show here at the Guggenheim in New York
> a few years ago. I am sorry I don't remember the names of the artists, but
> they showed books and posters from the 30's, mainly political in natutre,

<snip>

Foo Kwee & April:

I got to see that exhibit! It was fantastic - and I spent at least an hour in
front of the black & white woodblock print wall! I went to NY as part of a group
of painters at the local college, so I wasn't even doing woodblocks then. Two
that stuck in my mind were one of the soldiers taking away a family's goat, and
one of a man behind bars in jail - just his face and the bars. Small prints, but
very strong in content and powerful images. The paintings & screens were very
impressive in that show also. Huge in size & so different from what we usually
see here.

I will look forward to seeing some images from the Singapore University
exhibition. Please keep us in mind!

Wanda

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From: James G Mundie <jimandkatemundie@juno.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:39:41 -0500
Subject: [Baren 16280] wax alternative 

If I might suggest another material readily at hand if you don't happen
have any paraffin around: soap.  

As most bar soaps are a mixture of fats and waxes, it will achieve the
same end as paraffin.  My father had often soaped screws before inserting
them into wood, as the reduction of friction made the screws goes in more
speedily and also seemed to prevent splitting.  The problem with using
soap in that application is that the soap over time may become reactive
with moisture in the air and cause the screw to corrode or work its way
out of the wood.

Using soap for carving should work fine, though.  And as a nice side
benefit if using a great deal of soap, all you hanga printers will work
up quite a lather!

James
http://missioncreep.com/mundie/index.htm Mike Lyons said:


>There's a nice, 'amateur' article in "Fine Woodworking" magazine 
>this month which applies here -- I just ran to find my copy, but 
>can't remember where I left the darned thing!  Anyway, the author 
>used an electric drill to screw identical wood screws into hardwood 
>having first dipped them into various thread lubricants -- and rated 
>the lubricants based on how deeply the screw could be driven before 
>the drill locked up.  Paraffin was more effective than no lubricant 
>at all, but was the least effective.


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From: Graham <gscholes@home.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 11:38:23 -0800
Subject: [Baren 16281] Re: wax alternative 

Good suggestion James.
I had forgotten about that....

Just a word of caution. 
Make sure you wash the soap off if you are of the varnishing kind.
I mean by that .... after I have finished carving I varnish my plate
50/50 Varnish/Solvent to protect the bare wood. With wax this
is easily dissolved by the varnish. Where as with the soap it would/could
present problems. Comes the added factor of waiting until the
moisture is total dried from the plate before varnishing.

Lather away, could this be construed as foaming at the mouth????

Graham



>If I might suggest another material readily at hand if you don't happen
>have any paraffin around: soap. 
>
>As most bar soaps are a mixture of fats and waxes, it will achieve the
>same end as paraffin.  My father had often soaped screws before inserting
>them into wood, as the reduction of friction made the screws goes in more
>speedily and also seemed to prevent splitting.  The problem with using
>soap in that application is that the soap over time may become reactive
>with moisture in the air and cause the screw to corrode or work its way
>out of the wood.
>
>Using soap for carving should work fine, though.  And as a nice side
>benefit if using a great deal of soap, all you hanga printers will work
>up quite a lather!
>
>James



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From: Graham <gscholes@home.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:24:24 -0800
Subject: [Baren 16282] New address 

Please note our new address

gscholes@shaw.ca

Effective immediately.

Regards,
Graham & Marnie Scholes 

ps
We apologize to some who may have received this notice twice.
You can blame it on poor housekeeping.



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From: mail shaw <leesartstuff@shaw.ca>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 14:18:33 -0800
Subject: [Baren 16283] Re: Baren Digest V17 #1633 

Hello
Can you please forward the internet address for baren to me. My computer
went for a walk and the address and fovouites part of my browser went with
it. I can't find it again with my search engine. I would appreciate the
help. Thanks
Roger Lee
Vernon BC Canada
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "barebonesart" <barebonesart@home.com>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 10:57 PM
Subject: [Baren 16272] Re: Baren Digest V17 #1633


> Maria,
> I got the same thing Graham did, nothing but red x's with IE.
> Sharri
>
>



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From: FurryPressII@aol.com
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 18:10:32 EST
Subject: [Baren 16284] Re: Baren Digest V17 #1633 

woodblock.com

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From: Graham <gscholes@shaw.ca>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 19:30:46 -0800
Subject: [Baren 16285] Re: Baren Digest V17 #1633 

Hi Roger.... my fellow Canuck.

http://barenforum.org/

I am surprised that a search engine won't find that.
I understand that the meta tag for that site is kept right up
to date and the search engines boot it up the the head of the list.

Regards

Graham

You enjoying the snow.... asks the guy from lotus land of green.



>Hello
>Can you please forward the internet address for baren to me. My computer
>went for a walk and the address and fovouites part of my browser went with
>it. I can't find it again with my search engine. I would appreciate the
>help. Thanks
>Roger Lee
>Vernon BC Canada



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From: Cate-Earthlink <cate108@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:48:24 -0600
Subject: [Baren 16286] Snake Exchange Addresses Please 

Would someone please make an honest woman of me and send me the list of
people involved in the snake print exchange?  I e-mailed Pete but did not
hear back from him.

I suspect that I am going to be the last snake to slither through the mail.

Thank you,

Cate Pfeifer
cate108@earthlink.net


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From: Wanda <robertson@canby.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 20:02:33 -0800
Subject: [Baren 16287] Re: baren's address 

FurryPressII@aol.com wrote:

> 
> woodblock.com


Nope.....that is David Bull's web site address!  Baren's offical address is:

http://barenforum.org/

Welcome to all the new subscribers!

Wanda

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From: slinders@home.com
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 22:07:15 -0600
Subject: [Baren 16288] Re: Snake Exchange Addresses Please 

I'm forwarding the list to Cate.  
Sharen

Cate-Earthlink wrote:

> 
> Would someone please make an honest woman of me and send me the list of
> people involved in the snake print exchange?  I e-mailed Pete but did not
> hear back from him.
> 
> I suspect that I am going to be the last snake to slither through the mail.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Cate Pfeifer
> cate108@earthlink.net


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From: "Arye Saar" <saar1@degania-b.org.il>
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 07:57:45 +0200
Subject: [Baren 16289] Re: wax alternative 

And there is another exceptionally good material: plain candles.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Arye Saar
Kibbutz Degania Bet
Jordan Valley 15130
Israel
E-mail: saar1@degania-b.org.il
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James G Mundie" <jimandkatemundie@juno.com>
To: <baren@ml.asahi-net.or.jp>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 8:39 PM
Subject: [Baren 16280] wax alternative


> If I might suggest another material readily at hand if you don't happen
> have any paraffin around: soap.  
> 
> As most bar soaps are a mixture of fats and waxes, it will achieve the
> same end as paraffin.  My father had often soaped screws before inserting
> them into wood, as the reduction of friction made the screws goes in more
> speedily and also seemed to prevent splitting.  The problem with using
> soap in that application is that the soap over time may become reactive
> with moisture in the air and cause the screw to corrode or work its way
> out of the wood.
> 
> Using soap for carving should work fine, though.  And as a nice side
> benefit if using a great deal of soap, all you hanga printers will work
> up quite a lather!
> 
> James
> http://missioncreep.com/mundie/index.htm > 
> Mike Lyons said:
> 

> >There's a nice, 'amateur' article in "Fine Woodworking" magazine 
> >this month which applies here -- I just ran to find my copy, but 
> >can't remember where I left the darned thing!  Anyway, the author 
> >used an electric drill to screw identical wood screws into hardwood 
> >having first dipped them into various thread lubricants -- and rated 
> >the lubricants based on how deeply the screw could be driven before 
> >the drill locked up.  Paraffin was more effective than no lubricant 
> >at all, but was the least effective.

> 



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From: Legreenart@cs.com
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 01:23:04 EST
Subject: [Baren 16290] Hand-Pulled Prints 


       If you are interested in entering  a juried show, which prints a 
catalogue with images of all work chosen for the exhibition, which has gotten 
regular press coverage, and is held in a pretigious contemporary art gallery, 
check out Hand-Pulled Prints X prospectus.  You can email me for a copy or go 
to our site, http://www.stonemetal-press.com

If you have tried to print a prospectus for Hand-Pulled Prints X from 
our website, and it wasn't working, please visit again. Our volunteer finally 
found time to help us find the mistake, and the page is working.  
      Meredith Dean is our juror this year, and Dan Welden is giving a 
special Solarplate prize. All artists will get a copy of the catalogue, which 
will have images of all the exhibited prints. This catalogue is also sent to  
museum libraries and collectors.
      If you would like me to email you a prospectus, send me an email 
request, and I will be glad to send you one.



Yours, 
Le Green
Stonemetal Press
Email: legreenart@cs.com
http://www.stonemetal-press.com

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