Baren Digest             Wednesday, 24 October 2001     Volume 17 : Number 1596


[Baren 16023] Re: Baren Digest V17 #1594
From:
Brian Lockyear <brianl@synopsys.com>
Date:
Tue, 23 Oct 2001 09:18:41 -0700


FurryPressII@aol.com writes:
 > Most deckles are fake on machine made paper anyway.  I cut um off because it makes 
 > registration better with out them.  You are a printer not a paper maker  and 
 > western paper for printmaking such as arches or rives is machine made anyway.

This is a fair point.  I can agree with the contrast to what I'd said because
my intent in hanging onto deckles is to emphasize that I am making a hanga
print with Japanese paper.  It is hand-printed and it is hand-made paper.
The registration marks are also relatively small in this case... a square
corner and an inch-long straight cut near the other end of the long edge.

Speaking of printing, my contribution to exchange #11 is almost done!  Whew!
Thought I was in serious trouble due to technical difficulties there for a
while.  Also bought a new house... moving studio spaces...  Too much at once.
Will be happy to get it in the mail!

    - Brian -

Brian Lockyear
Portland, Oregon, USA


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From: "Carole Baker" <caroleterrybaker@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 10:02:24 -0800
Subject: [Baren 16024] Thanks 

Dear Graham,  Thanks so much for the speedy response.  You cleared up some things I've been wondering 
about for a long time.  I will forever be agonizing over the decision to change my prints mid-edition, I think.  
So many possibilities.  I guess it kind of comes down to not really having confidence in my original intent, 
though.  Or maybe the boredom of doing the same thing over and over... which  basically comes down to 
the same thing:  not having confidence that that original intent is good enough to do so many times. So maybe 
in time I will find the confidence in my original conception and intent to become "a real printmaker". Or. 
perhaps my delight with all the possibilities can give me the confidence to make my own definition of 
printmaking. I do want to be honest in what I am selling and appreciate you expertise and generosity to share.   
I met you when I was at Metchosin attending Naboru's class,(! in 95, I think.)  You came by one afternoon and 
showed us some of your prints.  I was impressed.  Carole
 

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Subject:
[Baren 16026] Re: Thanks
From:
Graham <gscholes@home.com>
Date:
Tue, 23 Oct 2001 16:02:01 -0700


I think that was in 1996 and I had said to Noboru I would be dropping over to say hi during his class there.  
He ask me to bring some stuff so I did.   Gees I had forgotten about that...
Do you have a web site so I can see some of the work you are doing.

If you ever need help I am just an e-mail away.

Take Care.

Graham


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Subject:
[Baren 16027] Re: Baren Digest V17 #1595
From:
"marilynn" <marilynn@willapabay.org>
Date:
Tue, 23 Oct 2001 09:41:34 -0700


The papers for my deckle edge question vary up to close to 1/2 inch.  Yes
this is probably machine made paper, stonehenge, but the deckles do indeed
tell the public that it is a nice paper and hand pulled, so except for the
case where the paper was cut crooked and I will have to trim it to get the
image straight I will leave the edges as long as it does not vary more than
1/2 inch.  I guess variances of this sort also say that it was hand done and
not machine done.  We have to make room for the human touch in work or we
look too much like a machine I should think.
I am thinking these decisions are up to the printmaker, just as to how much
we allow our prints to vary and what we each consider acceptable in our
series as things will vary just a bit because they are hand pulled.
Marilynn


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Subject:
[Baren 16028] Re: Baren Digest V17 #1595
From:
"marilynn" <marilynn@willapabay.org>
Date:
Tue, 23 Oct 2001 16:41:14 -0700

Guaranteed to have these prints in on time.  But one more question???
Yikes!!  I was not taught some technical stuff so well.  I was taught to lie
my prints between newsprint to let them dry and weight them.  so far it has
been fine but this new ink does not like this.  I checked the stack today
thinking some might be ready for a final trimming and such.  Well the
newsprint stuck to the ink and came off when I pulled out the print.  I was
lucky only a few did this and also I was able to lift it off, not loosing
any prints, thank heavens.   But first of all newsprint is far from acid
free and second, HELP!  I am using stonehenge white paper and oil based ink.
I am running the prints wet on the press.  I am not blotting them as it has
been my experience that little comes off when I blot wet prints.  I am
spooning a bit as all the ink does not come off with the press, but that
seems to be fine.  What do the rest of you do with wet oil based prints to
keep them flat and dry them?
Marilynn


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Subject:
[Baren 16029] Re: Baren Digest V17 #1595
From:
"Tyrus Clutter" <TRClutter@NNU.Edu>
Date:
Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:02:37 -0600


Place them in a pad of newsprint paper. This will keep the paper fairly flat as it dries and also keeps 
the ink off of other prints (the newsprint soaks out some of the oil too, making the prints dry a little quicker). 
You are supposed to switch the the sheets to a new place in the pad every day until the ink is dry.
TyRuS


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Subject:
[Baren 16030] Re: Baren Digest V17 #1595
From:
FurryPressII@aol.com
Date:
Tue, 23 Oct 2001 23:35:29 EDT


because stonehinge has a lite of sizeing it takes a bit longer to dry  also 
affects its ablity to print dampened.  It is better for drawing than 
printing.   It is a machine paper so not sure why the fake deckles are so 
important?   I have made paper so i know why a deckle exists on hand made 
paper.   A paper like stonehinge is made in a roll and then cut into sheets.  
when i saw a printer i know make a fake deckle i LOL

john center

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Subject:
[Baren 16031] Re: Baren Digest V17 #1595
From:
"bemason" <bemason@concentric.net>
Date:
Tue, 23 Oct 2001 20:35:38 -0700


Marilynn,
This is how I do it, but I put blotters under the print, clean newsprint on
top and then another blotter. I do not weight them, just change the blotters
after the first 15 - 20 minutes. Most of the water will be out of the prints
by this time. Then use new blotters and new newsprint. My prints are always
flat and never stick. I know other people weight their prints, but I never
seem to need to as they are always flat. The secret is changing the blotters
after the first short while.
Barbara


.  I was taught to lie

> my prints between newsprint to let them dry and weight them.  so far it

has

> been fine but this new ink does not like this.  I checked the stack today
> thinking some might be ready for a final trimming and such.  Well the
> newsprint stuck to the ink and came off when I pulled out the print


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