Baren Digest              Tuesday, 2 October 2001      Volume 16 : Number 1574


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From: Ibnu Pratomo <billyblue7th@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 06:02:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 15819] Hi there....! 

Hi,

I'm Ibnu fm Bandung. i'm now in my 2nd year of graphic
art. 
it's impressing to see bareners can share their skills
& help eachothers w/ sincerity & positive thoughts
regardless their nation/background, as i found in the
old baren site. and now i found it's even better...!
actually i'd love to participate in yr exchange
program but since i'm a new comer, so i'd better surf
a little more till i find the right time to do so.
hope that i'll never make some stupid things that'll
make the owner kick me out. :) 
 
sometimes i often speak too straightly e.g. when i
think it's bad i say it bad where some people wl find
it so rude/impolite, but actually i'm just being
spontaneous. because when it is very good, i'll say it
very good. perhaps that's because of my age where boys
tend to be emotional. so when you find me saying
things that is not appropriate, then pls keep me
advised. i blv tt to be in this forum, i'll learn not
only abt good woodblock but also good lessons of life.


selamat malam,
Ibnu.

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From: "eli griggs" <eli.griggs@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 09:34:01 -0400
Subject: [Baren 15820] Re: Hi there....! 

Hi there and welcome, Ibnu!  

Do you have any works on the web that we can visit?

What methods of relief printmaking are you doing now, by press, by hand?

Cheers,
Eli



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From: Mike Lyon <mikelyon@mlyon.com>
Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 08:38:44 -0500
Subject: [Baren 15821] Re: Baren Digest V16 #1573 

At 10:00 PM 10/1/2001 +0900, you wrote:
>mike and april
>       what is a penrose tile?   how do you print with these?
>im all the way out here in california and i wake up everynight now and have
>to turn the light on and read to keep the images out of my head
>georga

Hi, georga -- Penrose was a mathematician -- did a lot of cool topological 
stuff, but Penrose Tiles are typically a kite shape and a dart shape which 
fit together to form surprising and non-repeating patterns of tiles.  You 
can follow a nice pictorial progression about tiling here.
http://www2.spsu.edu/math/tiling/tilings.html
The Penrose dart and kite designs are shown on that first page, but don't 
really show up again until about the 22nd or 23rd 'slide' in the 
progression.  It's very pretty!

Mike
Mike Lyon
mailto:mikelyon@mlyon.com
http://www.mlyon.com 

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From: "April Vollmer" <april@aprilvollmer.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 10:08:37 -0400
Subject: [Baren 15822] All a dream? 

Mike, I am glad to hear that at least we have some good imagination
stimulation coming out of this disaster! Quite an impressive dream. I
haven't had trouble sleeping, I've had trouble waking up! This is all a bad
dream, isn't it? The World Trade Towers couldn't possibly fall down!

Anyway, since I've been working with architectural pattern, I was thinking
of doing some work with Islamic pattern. A sign of solidarity, I guess.
Penrose tiles aren't much use for your bathroom, nor can you print with
them. They do seem to relate to Islamic pattern making somewhat. They are a
sophisticated mathematical construct, more information at:
http://www.ics.uci.edu/~eppstein/junkyard/penrose.html

Also, on the book front, I just read Rebecca Salter's Japanese Printmaking,
a must-buy, especially strong on scholarship, with lots of useful
information. I wrote a review for Printmaking Today, but it won't be out
until the Winter issue.  $20.50 from McClain's Catalogue Tel 800-832-4264,
e-mail orders@imclains.com

April
www.aprilvollmer.com



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From: John and Jan Telfer <jtelfer@iinet.net.au>
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 01 23:23:43 -0000
Subject: [Baren 15823] Re: Extender 

Princess,

>It's sold with the ink. I used it tonight 1:1 ratio with the ink, D. Smith
>Traditional Black #11.. It worked.....much better ink flow than just the ink
>alone.!! And it doesn't take as much ink to get good coverage.  I'm in
>business...Yeah BABY!!!!
>
Good one...doesn't it make a difference?  Go for it Babe!
Jan
Perth
Western Australia

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From: John and Jan Telfer <jtelfer@iinet.net.au>
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 01 23:23:44 -0000
Subject: [Baren 15824] Re: Uneven Printing 

Barbara,
>Could it be the gum? and if so why only in some places? Primarily on the
>left side of the press at the leading edge of the prints. Is this a mystery
>or what???? Any help would be appreciated.

If you have checked 
- - the pressure of the roller on the bed on the left side, and 
- - the evenness of the supporting blankets/mats and 
- - the even thickness of the printing block, 
then I would say it could be that there may be some grease on the block 
that is not allowing the watercolour to adhere to the block.  

Instead of the gum arabic, use the watercolour and some cornstarch or 
wallpaper paste, but I would certainly degrease the block first.

That is what I would try. Hope this is a bit of help.
Jan



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From: "bemason" <bemason@concentric.net>
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 09:14:53 -0700
Subject: [Baren 15825] Salter book 

April,
I already have an order in for this book, but McClains email is
order@imcclains.com , you left out one c....so if anyone wants to order it,
try this email.
Barbara

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From: ArtfulCarol@aol.com
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 15:09:56 EDT
Subject: [Baren 15826] Tiling, etc 

This summer I tracked down a teacher who was teaching the tesselation methods 
of Escher and another type of method to arrive at really fascinating 
composition possibilities for woodblocks. -anamorphic art. To explore these I 
need a second or third life in art!!  So I havent  even started on that 
project.

Anamorphic art is explained very simply in a children's book and you can take 
it from there: The Magic Cylinder Book by Ivan Moscovich, Tarquin 
Publications (England)

Another book,  but one I havent seen is Visions of Symmetry by 
Schattschneider.

Also, if interested search Escher on the Web.

This is mind-bogggling stuff.

Carol

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From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 18:01:57 -0500
Subject: [Baren 15827] Re: Live from New York 10/01/2001 06:01:55 PM 

April writes:
"...Artists seem to be either numbed or stimulated into much activity."

Like many others here who have also expressed their grief and disbelief at
the tragic events of  9/11,  I am also having trouble with the many images
that pop in/out  of my head.  To be perfectly frank, not all would fall
under what I would consider
candidates for a "benefit" print folio. Many are quite violent in nature
and deal with the death and destruction which occurred.  The "lost
innocence" which we all suffered last month has impacted us all in one way
or another.  Just today I heard a report on the radio of five men arrested
with charges in conspiracy to bomb the Sears Tower here in my home city of
Chicago. How close does it get ?

Many people are talking anti-war, peaceful & diplomatic solutions and of a
rethinking of our policies toward that part of the world. I like the idea
of dropping food packages to the poor.  Unlike previous attacks against
innocent civilians, american embassies and our military...this time the
targets also included the very base foundation of our goverment...the White
House,  the Capitol & the Pentagon.  This time it really hit home for all
the politicians in D.C. .  I am afraid they don't like been made targets,
you can be sure the action to follow will be overwhelming. I have an image
of John Wayne saddling up his horse and going to get the bad guys.

Many more will die in consequence of the events of 9/11 and you can be sure
that our night' sleep will be filled with nightmarish visions for many
nights to come. As an artist this is both an exciting and a disturbing
source for print ideas.

Julio


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From: "John and Michelle Morrell" <jmmorrell@gci.net>
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 20:40:31 -0800
Subject: [Baren 15828] Exchanges 

None of us seem to be motivated by quite the same impulses, but I would hope
that those who are participating in the exchanges are doing so because they
want to learn and share ideas and techniques.   Sharing prints provides
artistic and technical stimulation beyond the printed reproductions of a
book or the pixels of a web page  Even novice printers, and maybe especially
novice printers, have something fresh to offer.

I am always amazed by what others see and don't see, understand and don't
understand.  I suppose it is natural for some to enter an exchange in a
competitive mode, but please don't drop out because you fear your work
doesn't compare well with others, or isn't what you had intended.

<^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^>
             Michelle Morrell
            jmmorrell@gci.net
http://www.MichelleMorrell.com
<^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^>


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From: "bemason" <bemason@concentric.net>
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 21:54:46 -0700
Subject: [Baren 15829] Re: Exchanges 

Michelle,
You are so right about this. I have so many prints from trades over the
years and exchanges I have been at and all are equally valuable to me. Each
one has it's own little story to tell. Some are done by very experienced
printmakers and some are done by beginners. As an artist each person can
only judge themselves by their own progress and growth, if we compare
ourselves to others we will always find someone who is better, more talented
or a harder worker. These exchanges are so much fun, sometimes I am killing
myself to get them done, but I just keep signing up. Maybe it is some kind
of addiction...maybe I need  to start a group, you know, print exchangers
annonymous!
Best to all,
Barbara

Michelle wrote:
  Sharing prints provides
> artistic and technical stimulation beyond the printed reproductions of a
> book or the pixels of a web page  Even novice printers, and maybe
especially
> novice printers, have something fresh to offer.
>



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From: "Bea Gold" <bnj50@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 23:35:13 -0700
Subject: [Baren 15830] Re: Exchanges 

Are people dropping out?  Bea
- -----Original Message-----
From: John and Michelle Morrell <jmmorrell@gci.net>
To: Baren Digest <baren@ml.asahi-net.or.jp>
Date: Monday, October 01, 2001 9:38 PM
Subject: [Baren 15828] Exchanges

>None of us seem to be motivated by quite the same impulses, but I would
hope
>that those who are participating in the exchanges are doing so because they
>want to learn and share ideas and techniques.   Sharing prints provides
>artistic and technical stimulation beyond the printed reproductions of a
>book or the pixels of a web page  Even novice printers, and maybe
especially
>novice printers, have something fresh to offer.
>
>I am always amazed by what others see and don't see, understand and don't
>understand.  I suppose it is natural for some to enter an exchange in a
>competitive mode, but please don't drop out because you fear your work
>doesn't compare well with others, or isn't what you had intended.
>
><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^>
>             Michelle Morrell
>            jmmorrell@gci.net
>http://www.MichelleMorrell.com
><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^>
>
>


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