Baren Digest             Friday, 21 September 2001     Volume 16 : Number 1562


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From: "bemason" <bemason@concentric.net>
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 08:01:52 -0700
Subject: [Baren 15734] Definitive answer on cleaning rollers 

Here is information from the horses mouth, so to speak. So if anyone wants
to clean their rollers in salad oil, clean up with soap and water.
I already knew about keeping them covered, but was glad to find salad oil
would not hurt them! These are great rollers and the large sizes are very
light weight, about 15# or so. I have one that is 24x81/2" dia and I can
lift it fairly easily if I am not picing it up with my arms outstreached.
This ourstreached reach could damage even the strongest back!
Best to all,
Barbara

- ----- Original Message -----
From: <Takachcorp@aol.com>
Barbara,
We got your e-mail just took a couple of days to get back to you.
 Takach Press rollers are made of natural rubber with some plasticies to
help
 hold the durometer.  However we always suggest using a quality roller wash
 such as Varn 133 for final cleanup.  The roller wash will remove any oily
residue that may be left from whatever type of cleaner that may have been
used.  you can also use water and dishwashing soap for clean up.
Dishwashing
soap is good at breaking up oily surfaces.  To protect your roller long
term.
Limit the use and time exposed to petroleum based products.  Also keep the
roller covered when not in use to protect it from any U.V. light source such
as fluorescent lights and sun light.  If you or anyone else has a question
about rollers feel free to call Joe Pool at Takach Press Corp.
1-800-248-3460.  Thanks again for the question. Joe Pool



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From: Ray Hudson <rhudson@together.net>
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 11:43:06 -0400
Subject: [Baren 15735] instructor wanted 

Any Baren folks in the New England area might consider this:  Snow Farm
(formerly Horizons, the New England Craft Program) is looking for a
Japanese woodblock instructor for a class to be held May 19- May 25,
2002, in Williamsburg, MA.  If interested contact them at 413-268-3101
(Snow Farm, 5 clary Road, Williamsburg, MA 01096).  I think this might
be part Elder Hostel, part something else.
Ray Hudson

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From: "Maria Arango" <maria@mariarango.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 10:24:53 -0700
Subject: [Baren 15736] no glass 

Hi all,
I asked this question a while back but things got side tracked.
Anyone out there displaying their prints without glass and if so, should
they be sprayed with an oil-paint type finish varnish? I print with oil
based inks often on fairly chunky hand-made paper, which loses much of its
appeal when displayed under glass.
Also, I have been thinking of making Japanese style fans and screens with
some of my prints and would like some input on how to, again, preserve the
print and paper from damage. How did the Japanese preserve their delicate
printed items? Clear lacquer?
Just a thought, any input appreciated.
TIA,
Maria
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
Maria Arango
Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
http://www.1000woodcuts.com
maria@mariarango.com
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

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From: "marilynn" <marilynn@willapabay.org>
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 10:26:29 -0700
Subject: [Baren 15737] Re:   Baren Digest V16 #1553 

I am so far behind in reading my email that just today I am opening mail
from the days after the disaster in NY.  I opened one mail from another list
that begged us not to seek revenge.  This person pointed out that Americans
had done things in the past that lead to the loss of innocent lives.  He
said that american people had in Vietnam killed children and that American
tanks had brought down homes of innocent people.  But not once did he
mention the helpoing hands we have given around the world.  The money we
send to feed the starving children and the fact that our enemies in WW11 are
all prospering because we helped them our of war.  People often focus on one
bad act or mistake and often forget the good acts.
OK it is late to respond but I too would love to contribute to an exchange
of prints for this event that has taken place on our soil.
And as an American citizen I want to see the terrorists brought to justice,
but I do not want to see innocent families murdered.
Marilynn

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From: LEAFRUTH@aol.com
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 13:47:08 EDT
Subject: [Baren 15738] Re: Baren Digest V16 #1561 

I would like to be included in the benifit project.  Ruth Leaf

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From: michael schneider <mikasch@t0.or.at>
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 23:57:05 +0200
Subject: [Baren 15739] Re: no glass 

Hi,

I display all my prints without glass. Until now I had no problem with
that. My prints are japanese style but some older ones printed with oil
color I had also on display the same way. 
No lacquer, no varnish. 
You can put them in a passpartout or mount them on a wooden board, with
a sheet of archival paper in between.

michael schneider

vienna, austria

Maria Arango wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I asked this question a while back but things got side tracked.
> Anyone out there displaying their prints without glass and if so, should
> they be sprayed with an oil-paint type finish varnish? I print with oil
> based inks often on fairly chunky hand-made paper, which loses much of its
> appeal when displayed under glass.
> Also, I have been thinking of making Japanese style fans and screens with
> some of my prints and would like some input on how to, again, preserve the
> print and paper from damage. How did the Japanese preserve their delicate
> printed items? Clear lacquer?
> Just a thought, any input appreciated.
> TIA,
> Maria
> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
> Maria Arango
> Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
> http://www.1000woodcuts.com
> maria@mariarango.com
> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

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From: Aqua4tis@aol.com
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 18:37:30 EDT
Subject: [Baren 15740] Re: oil and water? 

hi everyone
   i was wondering if i can use an oil base black ink for my key block and 
use watercolors for the rest of the blocks     ive read several books and the 
encyclopedia  but to be honest  i dont understand everything that well   
(slightly dyslexic)
thank you
georga

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From: "Bea Gold" <bnj50@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 16:08:10 -0700
Subject: [Baren 15741] Re: oil and water?

will you put the key block oil print over the waterbase?  I do think =
that would work well.  I think not the other way though. Good luck =
georga,  Bea
    
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From: michael schneider <mikasch@t0.or.at>
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 01:05:09 +0200
Subject: [Baren 15742] Re: oil and water? 

georga,

you can mix oil and water colour. The only thing you have to keep in
mind is that the oil prints over the water colour, but the water not
over the oil. 
(except you like the uncontrollable effects.)
Good luck with the experiments.

michael schneider

vienna, austria

Aqua4tis@aol.com wrote:
> 
> hi everyone
>   i was wondering if i can use an oil base black ink for my key block
> and use watercolors for the rest of the blocks     ive read several
> books and the encyclopedia  but to be honest  i dont understand
> everything that well   (slightly dyslexic)
> thank you
> georga

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From: Jack Reisland <reislandj001@hawaii.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 13:40:50 -1000
Subject: [Baren 15743] Re: no glass 

Hi Maria,

Japanese fans , screens and scrolls do not, as a rule, have any protective
coating applied to them. With the high quality of Japanese papers, they are
quite durable without any.

Jack Reisland

Maria Arango wrote:

> Also, I have been thinking of making Japanese style fans and screens with
> some of my prints and would like some input on how to, again, preserve the
> print and paper from damage. How did the Japanese preserve their delicate
> printed items? Clear lacquer?
>


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From: Cynthia R Wilson <cywilson@juno.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 18:28:33 -0700
Subject: [Baren 15744] Re: Print Project 

John, please be sure that I get on this list.  Thanks.

Cyndy Wilson

On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:45:50 EDT FurryPressII@aol.com writes:
> list of printers in benifit project
> James G, Mundie
> Lezle Williams
> Jeanne N. Chase
> Akemi Ohira
> Sue-waterloo, iowa
> Michelle Morrel
> Gregory Robison
> Julio Rodriguez
> Bobbi Mandel
> Maria Arango
> Daniel L. Dew
> Sharen Linder
> Carel-artful carol
> Gayle-Blueman
> Barbar DeMason
> Tyrus Clutter
> Sharri-Barebonesart
> Kris Alder
> Bea Gold
> Shortycowboy
> Sarah-chcamongie
> 
> If i left anyone off the list please correct me and i ask 
> forgiveness on any 
> misspellings and in some case I only have screen names
> 
> any media is ok although you can make more coppies of a wood block 
> vrs. a 
> mono print
> 
> I entend to get mine done ASAP    i talked to some fireman who where 
> 
> collecting for a benifit org  they would love to use um  :-)!!!      
>    some 
> of the organial things we want to do might take time    shows 
> auctions etc   
> so the three months might be needed but any work printed and sold 
> before  
> would be great       
> 
> I feel this is the most important art project I have ever worked on  
> so glad 
> to be able to help those who have given so much
> 
> "All gave some SOME GAVE ALL"
> 
> John Center

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From: "Maria Arango" <maria@mariarango.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 18:53:15 -0700
Subject: [Baren 15745] minutia 

Thanks Jack and Michael for the info on prints sans glass. I will look more
into this because people really like the look of the hand-made and/or
Japanese papers and some have even asked me to "undress" a print in situ so
they could get a better look.

On the print project, this quote from John's e-mail sounds like a
pseudo-theme, no?
"All gave some SOME GAVE ALL"

Keep on,
Maria

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
Maria Arango
Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
http://www.1000woodcuts.com
maria@mariarango.com
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><>


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From: Aqua4tis@aol.com
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 01:05:59 EDT
Subject: [Baren 15746] Re: oil and water? 



bea michael and barbara
   thank you so much for responding to my querie and also for your good 
wishes    this is my first time doing hanga on my own  so it will be 
interesting
namaste
georga


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From: "marilynn" <marilynn@willapabay.org>
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 22:16:39 -0700
Subject: [Baren 15747] Re:   Baren Digest V16 

I hate the thought of being left out of the memorial for this black tuesday
tragedy.  For all who communicate to the world via art, it is important to
communicate.
would it be so hard to accept an unlimited number if we are not sending them
out to each other or is this way over board?  Would we have too many prints
to manage?  It would be incredible if there were.  WOW such an outpouring.
I was nervous and still am over exchange #10 as it was both my first
exchange and my very first woodblock print.
But I know when I open that box of prints I will be thrilled, I just hope I
measure up.  I thought about doing a linoblock but than I thought
hmmmmmmmmmm  why  not the very first print in wood, indeed why not?  To me
this print will always be very very special, I have a few exrtras in case
someone did not get one. as if I were that important.
I have a dear friend in NY with whom I spoke for about an hour online the
day after the tragedy.  I have to say her perspective on her home toan being
attacked and her son wanting to go off and go to war was amazing.
Marilynn
fireman yes but people also please many helped, many hurt

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From: "Murilo Pereira" <muriloap@newsite.com.br>
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 23:00:41 -0300
Subject: [Baren 15748] Re: no glass 

This has been  my great problem doing to art : how to display work on paper
without glass, what  to put behind that would make the paper being on feet,
and, of course,  how just let the paper so fragile being closed, next to
public and to people hands. And I have not only engravings , but  90 x 70
cm  paintings, all done in fine paper .
Fine to me but not expensive and so commercial. But  this  is what I wanna
do exactly, not to conform with the standartyized gallery's art that treats
my 2001 work the same they do with Mona Lisa.
Sorry, if at  these times I 'm talking about so relative things for the
majority of men.
 I'm sorry about the terrorist acts of unbelievable violence against  human
families , our brothers in Law.
May I join the print exchange for peace?
M.A.P.

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