Baren Digest            Thursday, 13 September 2001    Volume 16 : Number 1553


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From: GraphChem@aol.com
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 09:08:08 EDT
Subject: [Baren 15664] Re: Unbelievable 



I know that none of you need this reinforcement, but I'm going to share it 
anyway. We here at Graphic Chemical have been inundated with faxes and 
e-mails of sympathy from our customers and friends outside of the United 
States. Artists are, to say the least, a classy bunch - worldwide.

Re: John's proposed project
Let us know what we can do to help - inks, papers etc. This is a great idea 
and should go forward.

Dean

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From: Bill Martin <wbmartin@midcoast.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 09:26:30-0400
Subject: [Baren 15665] Re: Unbelievable

hello;
i wonder about forgiving
the unforgivable
they have no shame
they have no vision except their
own salvation
zealots focus
narrowly on being right
heir right
there aint just one right way
there are many
just like the making of images from one's
own heart
what is right for one
may not be the only right
forgive, perhaps
but to forget.....
if you've been there smelled it tasted it
heard the screams of agony and terror
you'll be hard pressed so turn the other cheek
this ain't a preach
its an observation and recant
of earlier experience
different scale
intimate
not remote
viewed like some kubrick
war movie
smile at the new day
it's not easy
might help...
- --
Bill Martin
Tidalworks
62 Water Street
Thomaston, ME 04861
(207) 354-2290



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From: GWohlken <blueman@pantek.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:16:50 -0400
Subject: [Baren 15666] Re: Baren Digest V16 #1552 

John, I like your idea to do art to honor and benefit the families of
the volunteers who died helping.  I would like to be included.

***

> Instead of anger, forgive and be forgiven.
> 
 

Brad, I can understand your point of view, but the timing is difficult
as we are all too horrified right now and in shock.  Two nights before
this all happened (the planes missiling into the trade center towers) I
had a dream that was so prophetic, I was stunned  because I was left
feeling  the despair that we all feel when we deeply come to understand 
there are forces in the human mind under the cover of "ideals" that can
make us blind to our ability to act out of universal love.  That word
"love", the impossible?  Yet, we all know the feeling.  But, what is it
that makes love for all become love for an "ideal".  This is a force in
us all, and until we  address that one, this is going to go on and on
forever.   Forgiving isn't what is needed, so much as understanding
where this comes from and educating ourselves to know it's in us all in
varying degrees.  In the dream I felt the horror and awoke disoriented. 
There was a terrorist and there was a victim.  He was my son hanging so
high I could barely see him in the dark.  The terrorist said, "I have my
trophy."  Though police had him handcuffed and he was being taken away,
my son (a 6 foot 7 individual) 
perhaps symbol for the United States, perhaps even the towers themselves
(Jeremy was called one of the "twin towers" when he was in high school
because he was one of two very tall kids at the school), I felt the
despair of a force so great, there is an urgency, not to kill the enemy,
but to get to the root of why it happens at all in any form whatsoever. 
This is the most frightened I have ever been about humanity and what it
is capable of.  And, yes, I feel also the anger that leads to revenge,
but look what's down THAT road.

Gayle
Ohio, USA

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From: John and Jan Telfer <jtelfer@iinet.net.au>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 01 22:33:20 -0000
Subject: [Baren 15667] Re: Our thoughts are with you all 

To all my Baren friends, their families and neighbours,

I and my Australian friends are thinking of you all in this time of 
sadness and uncertainty with the events of yesterday.

Jan 
Perth, Western Australia

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From: FurryPressII@aol.com
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:55:30 EDT
Subject: [Baren 15668] Re: Unbelievable 

I off to give blood and then will start organizing the ideas for this print 
in honer  of our fireman.   any ideas will be helpful and organization as 
well.    more latter today

john center
john of the furry press

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From: "Tyrus Clutter" <TRClutter@NNU.Edu>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 09:37:21 -0600
Subject: [Baren 15669] Prints in Honor 

    I guess all these events will take each person (around the world) some 
time to process. I have been thinking about this idea of doing prints in 
honor of those innocents who have lost their lives. It may take us awhile 
to resolve how this should work. Baren already has some structure to allow 
this to happen. The beauty of the multiple is that as a show, the prints 
that could come out of this enterprise could be shown in many venues at 
the same time across the US and abroad. Someone mentioned the idea of a 
quilt which makes we think of the AIDS quilt. I can see this as a similar 
thing, as an exhibit of the prints would obviously have the same kind of 
impact. The recent discussion about giving art away will probably become a 
moot point in this particular case. We will have to see how things unfold 
to see how monies raised from this endeavor could benefit victims and 
their families. I think the Red Cross could also be an organization which 
could be helped through this. Even though I'm showing Baren work in our 
galleries this year, I know that I would be willing to a present a show 
stemming from this tragedy in the coming year.

TyRuS

><~><~><~><~><~><~><~><~><~><
Prof. Tyrus Clutter
Professor of Painting, Printmaking, & Art History
Director of Friesen Art Galleries
Dept. of Art & Music
Northwest Nazarene University
623 Holly St.
Nampa, Idaho  83686
TRClutter@NNU.edu
(208) 467-8398


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From: Daniel Dew <ddew@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:55:14 -0400
Subject: [Baren 15670] Prints For Honor 

The National Fallen Firefighters Association has a web page I found, it is
at:
http://www.firehero.org/
Maybe someone with a better grasp of the English language could e-mail them
and see what we can do to help., i.e. print donations for a fundraiser
etc....
Whoever contacts them, let the rest of us know so that we are not sending
them duplicate messages.

Daniel L. Dew
http://www.dandew.com/
ddew@tampabay.rr.com



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From: ArtfulCarol@aol.com
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:01:05 EDT
Subject: [Baren 15671] WTC 

P.S.
 On Oct 6 my husband is being awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross for his 
service as a WWII Fighter Pilot, Mustang  P51.   The USA works in SLOW and 
mysterious ways.

* * *

Gayle
If we didnt do what had to be done to protect the innocent during WWII you 
would be saying "Heil Hitler" to this very day.

Understand??!!!!   Understand     EVIL?!!!
Carol

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From: Daniel Dew <ddew@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:11:18 -0400
Subject: [Baren 15672] FW: Prints For Honor 

Ditto my last message for this site:

http://www.nyfd.com/



Daniel L. Dew
http://www.dandew.com/
ddew@tampabay.rr.com



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From: "bemason" <bemason@concentric.net>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 09:14:45 -0700
Subject: [Baren 15673] Re: Prints in Honor 

Tyrus,
Perhaps we can show this work in exactly one year, giving us time to set up
national and international venues and do this right. I will work on it in
Portland and perhaps others will do the same in their own area. It can be a
fund raiser with sales of the work donated to the group Dan recommended or
many other worthwhile charities that do this kind of work. Give us your
thoughts on this folks, do you want to try for a sooner exhibition time? If
so, we have our work cut out for us, it will take a large space to show so
many prints.
Barbara

. Even though I'm showing Baren work in our galleries this year, I know that
I would be willing to a present a show stemming from this tragedy in the
coming year.

TyRuS




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From: "bemason" <bemason@concentric.net>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 09:24:13 -0700
Subject: [Baren 15674] Re: FW: Prints For Honor 

Dan,
Perhaps we should let John notify them as it was his original idea, lets
wait until we have a little better idea what we are doing and how we are
doing it.
Barbara
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Dew" <ddew@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <baren@ml.asahi-net.or.jp>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:11 AM
Subject: [Baren 15672] FW: Prints For Honor

> Ditto my last message for this site:
>
> http://www.nyfd.com/
>
>
>
> Daniel L. Dew
> http://www.dandew.com/
> ddew@tampabay.rr.com
>
>
>



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From: Wanda <robertson@canby.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:37:45 -0700
Subject: [Baren 15675] message from Claude Aimee 

My deepest sympathy to the American nation for the loss of so many 
innocent people who paid with their life for the monstrosities of the
war mongers.

It is with deep sorrow that I write today. Yes, a prayer chain for
PEACE, we are in great need of peace and understanding if we are to
survive as the human race...

Claude Aimˇe

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From: "Tyrus Clutter" <TRClutter@NNU.Edu>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 14:31:50 -0600
Subject: [Baren 15676] Arrival 

In the midst of rather somber conversation onlist, a streak of light 
breaks through. #10 has arrived! After a long wait I am so pleased to see 
all the images and can't wait to see all these images alongside the #8 
pieces in our January show on campus.

Also, Monica Bright...who are you? How have we not met both living in 
Nampa, Idaho of all places?

TyRuS

><~><~><~><~><~><~><~><~><~><
Prof. Tyrus Clutter
Professor of Painting, Printmaking, & Art History
Director of Friesen Art Galleries
Dept. of Art & Music
Northwest Nazarene University
623 Holly St.
Nampa, Idaho  83686
TRClutter@NNU.edu
(208) 467-8398


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From: barebonesart <barebonesart@home.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 18:16:42 -0700
Subject: [Baren 15677] Re: Baren Digest V16 #1552 

John and others,

I'm with you on making a print - I developed an image in my mind during my
drive back from Portland this afternoon. The best way to work these things
out is through art - or I should say, that is what works for me. I may begin
in anger, but I always end in forgiveness and understanding. Art transports
me to that higher level.  I had my class yesterday all do "emotional
drawings" (I'm sure you've all done this excercize), and then we cut out the
various emotions and mounted them on boards with all like kinds together. It
helped the students to appreciate the universal mark, and they all said
Thank You after class and that they felt better.

Too many wars have been fought, and lives lost, because of religious
differences - look how many have been lost in NY.  I confess that I don't
have any loved ones lost in this travesty, but I still believe the best
thing is NOT retribution - that will only lead to more lives lost on both
sides. The best answer is to turn the other cheek, regardless of your
religion, and for each of us make a print.

Sharri 


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From: b.patera@att.net
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 01:44:42 +0000
Subject: [Baren 15678] Re: Prints in Honor 

Count me in on this print project.

Barbara Patera



> Tyrus,
> Perhaps we can show this work in exactly one year, giving us time to set up
> national and international venues and do this right. I will work on it in
> Portland and perhaps others will do the same in their own area. It can be a
> fund raiser with sales of the work donated to the group Dan recommended or
> many other worthwhile charities that do this kind of work. Give us your
> thoughts on this folks, do you want to try for a sooner exhibition time? If
> so, we have our work cut out for us, it will take a large space to show so
> many prints.
> Barbara
> 
> . Even though I'm showing Baren work in our galleries this year, I know that
> I would be willing to a present a show stemming from this tragedy in the
> coming year.
> 
> TyRuS
> 
> 
> 

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From: Kris Alder <krisalder@cc.usu.edu>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 21:52:19 -0600
Subject: [Baren 15679] Re: Unbelievable 

John,
I would be interested in your project.  Let me know details and count me in.  
Whatever it is possible for any of us to do at this time of great sorrow and 
tragedy should be done.

Kris Alder

>===== Original Message From FurryPressII@aol.com ====
>I am going to do a print and would like others to work on it if possible in
>honor of the real heroes and if possible for the benefit for there loved ones
>who are now widowed please contact me if you are interested.
>
>John Center
>john of the furry press
>
>contact me on or of list

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Kristine Alder  
Printmaker/Art Educator/Book Artist
Logan, UT   USA
email: krisalder@cc.usu.edu
       imakeprints@hotmail.com
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From: "Bea Gold" <bnj50@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 21:28:35 -0700
Subject: [Baren 15680] Re: Unbelievable 

I'd like to take part also and thought you'd like to look at this article
from the NY Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/13/nyregion/13FIRE.html

Bea Gold


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From: GraphChem@aol.com
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:43:02 EDT
Subject: [Baren 15682] Fwd:  A Tribute to the USA(from a canadian newspaper)] 


> > > A TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES
> > >
> > > This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing.
> > > America: The Good Neighbor.
> > >
> > > Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a
> > remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon
> > Sinclair, a Canadian
> > television commentator. What follows is the full text of his
> > trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional Record:
> > >
> > > "This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the
> > most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth.
>    Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out
> > of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars 
> and
> > > forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying
> > > even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States.
> > >
> > > When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans 
> who
> > > propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the
> > > streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it.
> > >
> > > When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that 
> hurries
> > in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by
> > tornadoes. Nobody helped.
> > >
> > > The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars! into
> > > discouraged countries. Now
> > > newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, 
> warmongering
> >  Americans.
> > >
> > > I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the
> > > erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does any 
> other
> >  country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the
> > > Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10?  If so, why don't they fly them?
> > Why do all the International lines except Russia fly  American Planes?
> > >
> > > Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on
> > the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You 
> talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about 
> American technocracy, and you find men on the moon -! not once, but several 
> times - and safely home again.
> > >
> > > You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store
> > > window for everybody to look at.  Even their draft-dodgers are not 
> pursued
> >  and hounded.  They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless
> > > they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma 
> and
> > pa at home to spend here.
> > >
> > > When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down 
> through
> > > age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania 
> Railroad
> >  and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. 
> Both are still broke.
> > >
> > > I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other
> > > people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced
> > to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even 
> during
> >  the San Francisco earthquake.
> > >
> > > Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned
> > tired of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this thing 
> with
> > > their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose
> > at the lands that are gloating over their present
> > troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those."
> > >
> > > Stand proud, America!



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