Baren Digest               Tuesday, 10 July 2001       Volume 16 : Number 1484


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From: GWohlken <blueman@pantek.com>
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 09:34:30 -0400
Subject: [Baren 15085] Re: Baren Digest -- Size of Exchanges 

Maria said:

> One possible alternative to the recurring "salon des refuses" would be to
> increase the number of participants in a Baren exchange. I know that 30 is a
> manageable number of prints for everyone, but how many people "really" would
> we have if we extended the limit to everyone that wants to participate? 40?
> 50?

For people printing with a press, that might be a lot easier than for
people using oil based inks and a wooden doorknob like me.  30 is tiring
when there are several colors printed only by the hand.  (Hanga was/is
easier for that, but more difficult in other ways if you are new to it
like me).  I'm finding myself more intrigued with working toward a
themed exhibit like Greg Robison's "Gospel" show in Scotland.   Prints
made specifically for a particular event, with the idea individuals can
trade prints as an option takes the pressure off, and allows for a
longer germination as well as study period for the woodcut to evolve
into its final statement.

Gayle
Ohio, USA

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From: Daniel Dew <ddew@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 09:44:11 -0400
Subject: [Baren 15086] Salons 

I say, stick with the Salon's when they are necessary, rather than
increasing the edition sizes.  Some who may sign up for an exchange of
thirty would not for an exchange of 40 or 50, so let the wind blow when it
may.  If an exchange excites enough people to warrant a "Salon", so be it.
If the theme is not that "exciting", you will only get the thirty
participants anyhow.

My 2 cents.

dan dew 

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From: "Jeanne Norman Chase" <studiojnc@prodigy.net>
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 10:29:58 -0400
Subject: [Baren 15087] Editions, etc 

I would hate to see the exchanges go higher than 30,.  By the time I have 30
prints pulled, frankly I am tired of seeing the same image and want to get
on with another.
And look how full the portfolios would be, more expenses for shipping etc.
Not to mention the work of the Coordinators.
A good idea to spread the exchanges to more people, but as it is, if you
were in the last exchange, then you have to take your chances. That seems
very fair.

So the Salon des Refuse', started by our esteemed Daniel Dew is by far the
best answer to the question. We could dub Dan as the Master of the Salon and
he could coordinate all of them (just kidding)

Bea,
 as far as the Coordinator for #11, I would be happy to volunteer.
 It is not really all that difficult a job. I am fortunate in having a whole
house as my studio and plenty of room to spread the little darlins' al over
the place.

PS. Just added something that might be of interest to all of you "Cemetary"
people. It is on my web page;  http://www.jeannenormanchase-art.com
then click on New Things.

Jeanne N.


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From: Greg Carter <artfool@bulloch.net>
Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 21:47:25 -0400
Subject: [Baren 15088] Re: Print history 

Dear Jean,
All of the comments on print history just confirm why I decided not to
respond to the first email.  It is so hard to simplfy printmakings rich
history.  My mind fills with images through out history and I do not know
were to begin.  I think of the prints(drypoints) of the house book master
with there amazing line and forms all the way up to modern times and prints
that challange the very notion of what is a print such as Dieter Roth's
incredible multible consisting of cut up books with lard and spices in a
sausage skin.     I know that is pushing it for some of you but it just
proves how wonderful printmakinging is.  I recomend the book. Printmaking
Today as a good general overview of print history which is easy to
incorparate into a printing class.

Greg Carter


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From: "bemason" <bemason@concentric.net>
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 08:15:25 -0700
Subject: [Baren 15089] Re: Mary Azarian on Martha Stewart Show... 

Sharen,
Wish I lived closer to Vermont, I sure would like to see these in person.
What amazing work.
Barbara

> "THURSDAY, JULY 12    FIELD TRIP: WOODCUT ARTIST  Learn how
> Vermont woodcut artist Mary Azarian uses her own garden as
> inspiration for her nature-themed woodblock prints."

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From: Cucamongie@aol.com
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 11:30:51 EDT
Subject: [Baren 15090] exchange numbers 

I think 30 is more than plenty for an exchange number, and would not want to do more prints than this for an exchange, just my 2 cents-
Sarah

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From: Wanda <robertson@canby.com>
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 08:58:40 -0700
Subject: [Baren 15091] Re: Baren Digest V16 #1483 

Sharri, m'dear - you quoted the whole digest when you answered Jean Eger's
printmaking question yesterday. Be careful & check to see what is quoted before
you post, O.K.?
Some e-mail programs will let you just turn off the "quote" option so you don't
have to worry about it automatically copying everything.

Really nice to see you at Barbara's, it was a nice group of people wasn't it?
It's a long drive for me, but the end result is always good!

Wanda

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From: Wanda <robertson@canby.com>
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 09:14:59 -0700
Subject: [Baren 15092] Re: # 11 sign up 

You are welcome Murilo. If you want to see some of the art & the party & my
husband & daughter go to:

http://web-ster.com/robertson/streff/

the party pix are on the second page. If you want to see a larger picture - just
click on the thumbnails.

Wanda



Murilo Pereira wrote:
> 
> Hi, Wanda, thanks for reminding me to sign exchange 11. You see, I had
<snip>
> I'd love to see the
> prints, the party, the people, the place, your daughter and husband.  Health
> to all.  Best wishes, Murilo.

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From: Wanda <robertson@canby.com>
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 09:31:16 -0700
Subject: [Baren 15093] Re: Baren Digest V16 #1483 

Oops, that was meant to go to Sharri directly - I'm glad that I've never said "I
don't make mistakes" :-)

Wanda

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From: "Rudolf Stalder" <stalderp@mindspring.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 13:22:41 -0700
Subject: [Baren 15094] print-exchange scheme 

Maria wrote

"Maybe we have outgrown the 30-limit and it is time to come up with another
scheme? Any comments?"

If 30 people take part in a print-exchange 29 prints have to be sent in to
make it work.

If 50 people take part and everybody sends in 29 prints and expects to get
29 prints back, this - slightly different  - scheme still works. No waiting
list needs to be maintained, the only date to be set is the deadline for
reception. New, the coordinator would have to work out a redistribution
mode. The number of prints to be sent in could be kept variable.


Example: It was decided that the print ex-change "fire-bird" will "run" on
25 prints, with dead line for reception mm.dd.yy.  Until mm.dd.yy. 66
participants sent in 25 prints each and will now receive 25 prints back.

Rudolf Stalder



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From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 12:48:35 -0500
Subject: [Baren 15095] Re: print-exchange scheme 07/09/2001 12:48:48 PM 

Rudolph writes:
"...If 50 people take part and everybody sends in 29 prints and expects to
get
29 prints back, this - slightly different  - scheme still works. No waiting
list needs to be maintained, the only date to be set is the deadline for
reception. New, the coordinator would have to work out a redistribution
mode. The number of prints to be sent in could be kept variable...."

This is a very similar setup to the Baren Swapshop....no deadlines,
variable number of prints, work at your own pace...
check it out....and see the Gallery of prints. The only problem is that not
many people are participating and sending
in prrints.

http://barenforum.org/swapshop/index.html

thanks...Julio


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From: "Tyrus Clutter" <TRClutter@NNU.Edu>
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 12:00:19 -0600
Subject: [Baren 15096] Re: print-exchange scheme 

Tell me about it Julio! I sent in prints almost a year ago (just about the =
time I signed up for the list) and I still haven't received any prints =
back. I know there are people out there who can send in some images...pleas=
e.
TyRuS

>>> Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com 07/09/01 11:48AM >>>

Rudolph writes:
"...If 50 people take part and everybody sends in 29 prints and expects to
get
29 prints back, this - slightly different  - scheme still works. No =
waiting
list needs to be maintained, the only date to be set is the deadline for
reception. New, the coordinator would have to work out a redistribution
mode. The number of prints to be sent in could be kept variable...."

This is a very similar setup to the Baren Swapshop....no deadlines,
variable number of prints, work at your own pace...
check it out....and see the Gallery of prints. The only problem is that =
not
many people are participating and sending
in prrints.

http://barenforum.org/swapshop/index.html=20

thanks...Julio



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From: Claude Villeneuve <klaud@sympatico.ca>
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 14:17:41 -0400
Subject: [Baren 15097] Re: exchange sizes 

I find that printing more than 30-35 (with artists proofs) is a strain
and definitely takes the pleasure out of exchanges for me. I think Jim's
idea of opening early sign up to artists who didn't participate in the 2
previous exchanges is a good idea. The Salon idea on exchanges with
particular popular theme is fun too and since there are less
participants, it gives members who want to coordinate and have not yet
don it a chance to learn what it's like.

Claude Aimˇe

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From: Daniel Dew <ddew@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 15:39:35 -0400
Subject: [Baren 15098] Toast anyone? 

I haven't gone away, just being too busy to think at times.

I have lost my computer at home due to lightning, so this is the only way to
contact me personally for the time being.  Yes, I had a surge protector.
Toasted that also.

dan dew 


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From: "Jeanne Norman Chase" <studiojnc@prodigy.net>
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 16:08:36 -0400
Subject: [Baren 15099] Florida Printmakers charset="iso-8859-1" 

Dan

What ever happened to the Endangered Species, Florida Printmakers Show at
the Gallery?
Recieved a brochure in the mail of thier upcoming shows but no mention of
the Fl. Printmakers show
Was it canceled?

Jeanne N.
sorry your "puter" is down. I thought mine was hit recently, but came back
on with lots of coaxing.


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From: "Maria Arango" <maria@mariarango.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 13:31:36 -0700
Subject: [Baren 15100] Op for printmaker 

There is an opportunity for a printmaker to give a couple of
lectures/demonstrations this fall to a group of eager advanced college
students in Kirksville, Missouri. Expenses are paid, associated is an
exhibit in one of the college's galleries and modest honorarium.
For all the details, please contact directly,
Crystal Wing at printmakingrocks@hotmail.com and tell her you are responding
to Maria's announcement.

Maria
Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
http://www.1000woodcuts.com
maria@mariarango.com
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><>


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From: Aqua4tis@aol.com
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 19:48:40 EDT
Subject: [Baren 15101] Re: Mary Azarian on Martha Stewart Show... 


what time and station is martha stewart on?
thank you
georga


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From: slinder@mediaone.net
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 18:57:02 -0500
Subject: [Baren 15102] Re: Mary Azarian on Martha Stewart Show... 

Aqua4tis@aol.com wrote:>  what time and station is martha
stewart on?

Hi, Georga,

Go to <marthastewart.com> , then go to 'station guide' under the
blue row of selectors. You'll need to click on the map. 
 
Sharen

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From: Aqua4tis@aol.com
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 20:03:09 EDT
Subject: [Baren 15103] Re: exchange sizes 

pesonally i like things the way they are
georga

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From: Aqua4tis@aol.com
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 20:09:58 EDT
Subject: [Baren 15104] Re: Mary Azarian on Martha Stewart Show... 


sharen
   thank you   im a fan of mary azarian    a friend on another list is her 
neighbor!!
georga


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From: "eli griggs" <eli.griggs@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 20:23:02 -0400
Subject: [Baren 15105] Re: exchanges charset="iso-8859-1" 

Hi there:

I like the exchange sizes as they are.

The "salon des refuses" seem to pick up any extra demand quite nicely.

Eli Griggs
Charlotte N.C.
USA

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From: "bemason" <bemason@concentric.net>
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 18:56:27 -0700
Subject: [Baren 15106] swap shop 

Tyrus,
This is terrible, a whole year! I sent prints to a monotype exchange and
never got them back...so maybe a year isn't bad. I am going to the studio
and make one for swap shop...lets get going friends, if we can do exchanges
we can do this. I think it is the size that put me off, it is just a little
different from the sizes on the regular exchanges, but I think we can handle
it.
Cut and print....
Barbara

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