Baren Digest              Wednesday, 14 March 2001      Volume 14 : Number 1354


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From: "Bea Gold" <bnj50@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:18:53 -0800
Subject: [Baren 13857] Re: workspace charset="iso-8859-1" 

Hi Nilsa,  We all have our favorites here.  Take a look at mine in the last
issue of the Baren Suji -
http://barenforum.org/newsletter/issue04/issue04.html#feature1   I love my space and as you can see it is SMALL!  I do water based printing so small space is easier.  I also have a hospital bed table next to my work table.
It is a wonderful addition.  It can be raised or lowered and turned at an
angle to accommodate anything I need from cutting to printing.  I use a
portable drafting table on top of my work table.  My work table has 8
drawers in it holding all my cut/print supplies and is low so I sit and bend
at the hips.  It is very comfortable. Good luck, Bea Gold

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From: Graham Scholes <gscholes@home.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:24:24 -0800
Subject: [Baren 13858] Re: Graham 

  Murilo,

Thank you for looking in on my site.
To do the number of colours is just practice and daring to take a risk.
I also do not try to ink and burnish so that each is a perfect print.
Perfection happens in my carved plates as far as registration is concerned
however there are many little ... oh darns .... to put it politely, 
in my prints.
I am not concerned with technical perfection as I am with the creative resul=
ts.

I am not familiar with the Monet work you mentioned.

As far as your English.... hell you should see my Portuguese !!!!

Regards

Graham/Victoria BC
An Island in the Pacific
Home of the Boot Camp


Why does overlook and oversee mean opposite things?


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From: Graham Scholes <gscholes@home.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:35:13 -0800
Subject: [Baren 13859] Re: Baren Digest v14 #1352 

Yes indeed Mike... aren't those random oscillating thingies great. I 
chose a Bosch because it comes with an attachment that accepts my 
vacuum hose.  These sanders can generate more dust than a dust storm 
on the prairies.

I like to do the last sanding with a palm sander using 600 grit. It 
leaves the surface with a luster.

Graham/Victoria BC
An Island in the Pacific


Why isn't phonetic spelled the way it sounds?




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From: Graham Scholes <gscholes@home.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 23:08:43 -0800
Subject: [Baren 13860] Re: frustrating.... 

>Dan writes:
>"I want to do a true hanga print, but I've failed sooo many times already,
>it's frustrating."
>

Julio wrote.....

>1- Cut paper to size, a few hours before print time....take a couple of
>towels or felt sheets (craft stores) (large enough to cover your paper)....
>and rinse them under the faucet and squeeze almost all the water 
>ouetc etc etc etc
>I usually let it sit at least  6-8 hours minimum....

The wetness of papers differ depending on the paper you are using.
Hosho paper requires much much less moisture than discribed by Julio. 
I dampen only every second (thick hosho) and third (thin hosho) sheet 
of paper, and put it in a damp box.

ie.  Shin Torinoko should be soaked in a tub of water, over night is 
good. then place in a damp box.
(between the sheets ...(plastic) this is.

I can't relate about other kinds of paper but as Noboru Sawai says... 
you have to experiment if you use papers other than what you are 
familiar with.
Each has it's own needs.... Just like you and me. (<:

Graham/Victoria BC
An Island in the Pacific
Home of the Boot Camp


What's another word for synonym?

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From: David Bull <davebull@woodblock.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 17:36:02 +0900
Subject: [Baren 13861] Re: Paper moistening ... 

Julio wrote.....
> >Cut paper to size, a few hours before print time....take a couple of
> >towels or felt sheets (craft stores) (large enough to cover your paper)....
> >and rinse them under the faucet and squeeze almost all the water
> >out etc etc etc etc

Graham added:
> The wetness of papers differ depending on the paper you are using.
> Hosho paper requires much much less moisture than discribed by Julio.
...
> ie.  Shin Torinoko should be soaked in a tub of water, over night is
> good. then place in a damp box.


Julio described a process which gives well _damped_, but not saturated
sheets. It is very close to the traditional method practiced here in
Japan, and works wonderfully.

Graham says "requires much much less moisture than described by Julio"
but then goes on to suggest putting the paper in a tub of water
overnight.

I can't sit here and let this go by; recommending to the world at large 
to soak the printing paper this much is simply inviting disaster. 

Too much water in the paper ... or on the block ... or in the brush ...
too much water _anywhere_ is fatal to control of a clean printing
impression. If it happens to be that blurred and soggy-looking colours
are what your designs need, then the 'tub' technique is presumably one
way to get them, but if you happened to be looking for crisp clean
colour, then you have to keep the water down.

Perhaps the best way (in words) I can describe a normally moistened
sheet of hosho paper is to compare it to a shirt that has just come out
of the spin dryer, ready for hanging on the clothesline. It is damp, but
not 'wet', and most definitely not soggy. The important point is that it
is very _soft_ - and that is the key to getting a good printing
impression. 

_Understand_ your options, and then choose the method best for you. You
cannot make blanket recommendations when it comes to things like this.
Or is that what I just did?  :-)

Dave



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