Baren Digest            Wednesday, 14 February 2001    Volume 14 : Number 1318


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From: Cucamongie@aol.com
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:18:12 EST
Subject: [Baren 13378] congratulations, akua kolor, toxic stuff 

Congratulations James, that's great news and well-deserved attention!

Someone mentioned in a previous post that for some reason they thought akua 
kolor was for monotype only -- NOT so!  It works great for hanga, and can 
also be used for western-style woodcuts - you can find other uses on Susan 
Rostow's (the maker of these inks) website, I think it's 
http://www.waterbasedinks.com (?)

Now something a little scarier, in my sumi-e class I've been taking, my 
teacher sold me some Japanese watercolors, a little set that comes in pans, 
very nice colors that go on very smoothly - I thought, what wonderful paints! 
 Then yesterday I was in Pearl paint and saw the same watercolor set for 
sale, but it had a warning label that said "warning, contains soluble barium" 
etc - and here I've been trying to stay away from toxic stuff!! Does anyone 
know about barium being used in watercolors and how dangerous it is, etc??? I 
assume I should be using gloves if I am going to continue using it, but I'm 
considering giving them back to my teacher.

thanks very much
Sarah Hauser

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From: "Kinzua" <Kinzua@email.msn.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 08:57:14 -0500
Subject: [Baren 13379] Re:   The Williams Show charset="Windows-1252" 

Thanks for pointing out the Ruth Leaf print.  I'm going to be revisiting the
show since it's up 'til June I think.
Today I start "hunting down" my Endangered Species, which means I am going
to narrow down the subject to two finalists.   It's been a long time since
I've done a woodcut that was more than a couple of inches square.  I'm
trying to switch into something a friend of mine calls "beginners mind", and
not think about the details too much, just go for the whole.     Karen
Berkenfeld

>Hi all-  It should also be mentioned that Ruth Leaf has a wonderful
>print in the NY Historical Show here in NYC.  Judy Mensch


http://homepages.msn.com/timessquare/kfberkenfeld/



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From: GraphChem@aol.com
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:00:06 EST
Subject: [Baren 13380] Re: congratulations, akua kolor, toxic stuff 

Soluble Barium - it's the same thing that the doctor uses on you when you 
have an upper GI test. It would seem to me that if it meets FDA regulations, 
it is at best a minimal problem. Barium Sulphate is found in many of the inks 
that you use - all of which are certified non-toxic by the ACMI Toxicologist 
from Duke University.

-Dean
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From: B E Mason <bemason@concentric.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 06:56:36 -0800
Subject: [Baren 13381] endangered species 

Karen,
I liked you comment on beginners mind. I have felt like a beginner for 
two plus years trying to move some of my images into block printing. I 
sort of have something I like now and the carving is getting a little 
easier. I have no patience with going from step a to b to c, I want to 
be good at this NOW.....well, if wishes were horses, right?
But you do have the idea, starting now on #9. I promise myself I will do 
the same thing, no more waiting until the last couple of weeks. Remind 
me I said this when it gets closer to the end... I just finished sending 
out an exchange for Print Australia and was sorry that only 22 of 30 
people sent in prints.  We are pretty lucky that this has never happened 
with the baren exchanges. It always amazes me how 30 people see the same 
thing so many different ways.

I have been corresponding with a beginning woodcut person, one who is 
nervous about posting. Like about 150 of you guys out there....and it 
has sparked my enthusiasm again. She is so excited about our site and 
starting to do woodcut. Being a beginner does have rewards of its own. 
So all you "old" people out there, if new members ask questions, just 
answer them, even if they have been answered 100 times before. There is 
always some little kernal of new knowledge is another person's 
interpretation  of a process.
So, cut, print and on to good work...
Best to all
Barbara


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From: B E Mason <bemason@concentric.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 08:04:43 -0800
Subject: [Baren 13383] Re: pigment vs. ink 

John,
I think the difference is that ink has a binder in it, like gum arabic, 
or rice paste or oil. Pigment is just pigment with no binder.
At least that is what I think.

Dean, is this right? We need an answer from Graphic Chemical, the ink 
people!
Barbara

John Amoss wrote:

> 
> Q: What is the (or) is there a difference between the terms: "pigment" and
> "ink"?
> 
> 


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From: Sunnffunn@aol.com
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:22:57 EST
Subject: [Baren 13384] Re: pigment vs. ink 

to me pigment is the color.  ink would be the vehicle that is using the color.



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From: Lynita Shimizu <shimizu@mail1.nai.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:56:28 -0500
Subject: [Baren 13386] Re: FW: Website Updates 

Just received my first Baren Mall order of pigment from Japan. Everything arrived
only seven days after placing the order!  How can this process be so unbelievably
quick and easy? Thanks to all involved!

Dan,
Your work touches the soul ...just beautiful ! Thanks for sharing.

James,
It is wonderful to hear your fine work is receiving well-deserved recognition.
Congratulations!

Best wishes to all,
Lynita


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From: b.patera@att.net
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:57:09 +0000
Subject: [Baren 13387] Re: FW: Website Updates 

Dan,

All three are wonderful prints. Have yet to nerve myself 
up to try a reduction print of any kind. Yours both 
inspires and intimidates me... but will give it a try 
soon.

As for exchange #8.... you have caught just the right 
mood. Is part of the print engraved? Am wondering 
because the lines seem so fine.

Used to work with autistic children. Beautiful babies 
with so much locked away. My favorite was a little girl 
named Diane. She never spoke a word to me in the year 
that I worked with her but she loved to help me fix the 
mid-morning snack for the rest of the kids. And her art 
projects were things of wonder.

Barbara P. 

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From: "eli griggs" <eli.griggs@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:23:14 -0500
Subject: [Baren 13388] Re: pigment vs. ink
Hi there:

Pigments are the very fine colour particles that are ground/worked into =
a binder. =20

They include organic and inorganic matter that can be natural or =
man-made.

Examples of binders are:=20
linseed oil for oil based inks/paints,
honey, Gum Arabic and glycerin for watercolours (add chalk for gouache),
acrylic emulsion for acrylic paints, etc.

It is also just fine to refer to the resulting mix, such as oil paint, =
as 'pigment'.  Many artist do, including myself.

I most strongly suggest you get hold of a copy of The Artist's Handbook =
of Materials and Techniques by Ralph Mayer. It is the 'artist bible' and =
should be the first book any artist buys.

Many of the questions about pigments, solvents, additives, etc. that =
self-taught artist and, surpassingly, students of contemporary art =
classes have will be answered by Mr. Mayer. The only gaps that come to =
mind is some of the newer pigments that have yet to be proven by the =
test of time.  I do not know if my 5th edition has been supplanted by a =
newer edition.

I hope this helps,


Eli Griggs
Charlotte N.C.
USA


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From: "Daniel L. Dew" <ddew0001@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 20:03:04 -0500
Subject: [Baren 13389] Re: FW: Website Updates 

> All three are wonderful prints.
Thank you very much.
> Have yet to nerve myself
> up to try a reduction print of any kind.
Go for it.  I picked one of my previous lino cuts that I just wasn't happy
with and experimented with that.
> 
> As for exchange #8.... you have caught just the right
> mood. Is part of the print engraved?
Nope, all printed.
>Am wondering 
> because the lines seem so fine.
lots of practice and lots of patience.  I was really trying for the very
fine lines, thanks for noticing.

dan dew


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From: GraphChem@aol.com
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:51:05 EST
Subject: [Baren 13390] Re: pigment vs. ink 


John -
A pigment is generally a dry powdered color from a variety of sources either 
organic or inorganic. Dry pigments can frequently be flushed or dispersed any 
vehicle (generally linseed oil for oil based inks, glycol, gum arabic etc for 
water based inks) An ink includes a pigment, vehicle, minerals or fillers 
such as magnesium carbonate or calcium carbonate, driers or retarders, 
wetting agents and those various super secret things that we inkies use to 
insure that you won't want to make inks yourselves. Inks are ground on an ink 
mill with multiple passes on a three roller mill (at least in our case), 
until the ink is ground smoothly and displys the correct color and viscosity.

Dean Clark

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From: B E Mason <bemason@concentric.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 18:57:10 -0800
Subject: [Baren 13391] Dan's work 

Dan,
Pretty darn impressive. I think we will keep you. Nice work. Aren't 
those reduction prints fun? And so easy to register the same block.
Barbara

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