Baren Digest Tuesday, 16 January 2001 Volume 14 : Number 1289 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Karla Hackenmiller Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 17:17:53 -0600 Subject: [Baren 13010] REQUEST FOR EXAMPLES! MESSAGE TO THOSE OF YOU WHO CROSSOVER INTO WOOD ENGRAVING!! I'll be doing a demonstration with a couple of other relief artists at the Southern Graphics Council Conference in March. My segment will center on wood engraving techniques and how they're used with new materials and new images. I would not classify myself as a wood engraver at all (I don't have nearly the skill or patience it requires), but many of the marks I make are very detailed and take influence from the wood engravers of old. I was wondering if any of you relief artists out there do this as well or know of other artists who do -- breaking with wood engraving tradition and working larger than standard or with abstract imagery or with multiple colors or with shaped blocks or with mixing wood engraving with other media? I'm hoping to borrow some prints and/or slides and/or blocks to show at the conference. Anyone interested, please contact me off-line at the above e-mail. Thanks! Karla Hackenmiller ------------------------------ From: Aqua4tis@aol.com Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 18:41:01 EST Subject: [Baren 13011] Re: Woodcuts of Women well i went through some of my stuff today and found some of artemio's stuff i was wrong they are all linocuts i wonder why they called the book woodcuts???? maybe a language problem?? oh well if anyone wants to see examples of artemio's work email me privately i have a few examples of his work and its really something georga aqua4tis@aol.com ------------------------------ From: b.patera@att.net Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 23:53:02 +0000 Subject: [Baren 13012] art, criticism, etc. As Barbara M. says, this is an interesting discussion and I would like to add my two cents worth. Visual "Art" to me, is a totally subjective.It's my theory that no two people will see the same thing even though they are looking at the same piece.... we all have personal sensibilities that color sensory input. I liken it to life drawing, where everyone is drawing the same model but from slightly different angles... in addition to the different perspective the artist adds (hopefully) his or her own personality plus whatever talent they possess.Then when a piece is shown you have the artists perspective, personality, and talent being interperted by the viewer.... who brings his/her own perspective and personality into the equation. When I think of critics I think of people who should know good technique when they see it... regardless of subject matter....and who should also, be honest enough to acknowledge that their comments are subjective. Of course it is hard to give up the position of "minor deity. Barbara P ------------------------------ From: Lawrence Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 11:25:58 +1100 Subject: [Baren 13013] Re: Subject Matter Some artists produce product, others produce the culmination of their investigations. In Australia we have a successful artist, produces work that please him, if you analyses the work though he just steals Gauguin's ideas and modernizes them in dayglo paint. His sense of design is 3rd rate in many respects but the work is very popular with tourists and t-shirt makers. His "original" work sells for large amounts of money and his reprints sell in volume. Is this art, does he communicate anything of benefit about contemporary Australian society? Does he need to? Is it just ego gratification and money making that the work is about? Is his art that he is onto a good thing and so artistically speaking he knows how to make the most of a roll. Is he a one trick pony (or is that a one trick flower doggy, which for all its cuteness, in dog years must be becoming ancient). Is he continuing to develop and come to a point where his work becomes inspired and truly original, is this important that he does? I'd love to hear what you all think! Personally I don't know what I feel about this person, however when I see his work I sort of have this yucky feeling that this is where commercial imperative takes people and wish that our souls were brought for more than a sack of money. Solipsism and ego gratification with little technical mastery, are these a combination guaranteed to make you famous? Regards Lawrence P.S no comment or disrespect on your friend as I have never seen her work, you just evoked a number of images from your post... ------------------------------ From: Legreenart@cs.com Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 22:45:56 EST Subject: [Baren 13014] Re: Baren Digest v14 #1285 > > Like any technique, you get out what you put in. April Vollmer > Aprils comments on digital printing clarifired the issue very nicely. Photographers that make photographic art have many of the same problems as printmakers, always having to define the borders of "fine art" from commercial technology. A wonderful photograher who has the studio down the hall opened last year with new works that involved computer manipulations of a photograph and printing with jet inks. At the time, the best professioonal advice on labeling he got was to identify them as "Giclee's." He took the advice, but no one seemed sure if the advice was good or not. I think April's advice is very good. Yours, Le Green Stonemetal Press Email: legreenart@cs.com Website: www.stonemetalpress.homepage.com ------------------------------ From: "Maria Arango" Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:18:14 -0800 Subject: [Baren 13015] new notes charset="iso-8859-1" Studio notes have been added on honing thanks to the contribution of Eli Griggs, forever in the virtual world. I will upload pictures--who am I kidding, I'll never get around to the pictures, but his explanations are worth a thousand images. http://www.1000woodcuts.com/Studionotes/sharpen/honing.html For those of you who are newerish to the list, visit the "how to" page of non-traditional and silly methods and other assorted schtuff: http://www.1000woodcuts.com/studio/method.html Contributions are gladly accepted, with full credit to the author. Imagine! your name on the web, visited by...by...oh, about 1,000 visitors a week. Hey, I'm no Yahoo...well? oh never mind. :-) Health to all, Maria PS 81-83 are in the last stages... <><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Maria Arango Las Vegas, Nevada, USA http://www.1000woodcuts.com maria@mariarango.com <><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------ From: Legreenart@cs.com Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 23:22:56 EST Subject: [Baren 13016] Re: Baren Digest v14 #1288 This seems like an important communication to me! Certainly the statemnet gave me a hoot of rcognition, and communicated our membership in the brotherhood of printmaking. Nice community comfort. Yours, Le Green Stonemetal Press Email: legreenart@cs.com Website: www.stonemetalpress.homepage.com ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest v14 #1289 *****************************