Baren Digest Saturday, 23 December 2000 Volume 13 : Number 1257 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cucamongie@aol.com Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 18:14:19 EST Subject: [Baren 12629] "tiny prints"?? Lovelace lee said: <> I have no idea what you are talking about or where you got this misguided perception!! :) some of us here make little prints, some make huge prints (Maria sometimes uses her car to print, for example), anyway, hang around, you'll see there is a wide variety here!! As for myself, I'm working on a set of 4 images which when put together will be 60" x 80"- best wishes SArah ------------------------------ From: David Bull Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 08:17:20 +0900 Subject: [Baren 12630] Re: "Comedy of Life"... Sharen wrote: > What a terrific collection of prints! Christmas surely came > early to my house! Thank you to everyone in the exchange! So it seems that Exchange #7 is finally arriving in the homes of the participants. OK, then let's let everybody _else_ see the prints too! http://barenforum.org ... and follow the link to 'Exchange Gallery' ... Dave ------------------------------ From: Mike Lyon Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 17:27:43 -0600 Subject: [Baren 12632] Re: Baren Digest V13 #1256 At 07:28 AM 12/23/2000 +0900, Jeanne N. wrote: >I say stick to "wood"... If I want etching, monotype, engraving, then I >will go elsewhere... > >My 10 cents worth. > >Jeanne N. I couldn't agree more! Wood, wood, wood, wood, wood. There, I've put in my nickel (wooden, of course!) Mike Lyon ------------------------------ From: Aqua4tis@aol.com Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 19:15:06 EST Subject: [Baren 12633] Re: "Comedy of Life"... hi everyone i just finished looking at this latest exchange and all i can say is wow!!! you guys rock!! im so proud to be part of this group happy holidays georga ps although linocuts are accepted i think baren should stay a woodblock site ------------------------------ From: "Gillyin Gatto" Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 21:28:52 -0800 Subject: [Baren 12634] Re: Baren Digest V13 #1254 hello all from Gillyin Gatto -Machias Maine --- an easy way to carve a curve in lino is simply to carve it first with your knife ,japanese or x-acto, then using it (the knife-cut line) as a guide for your u-gouge and with a warmed up block,just put the corner of the gouge IN the knife cut and follow it where ever it goes... i like the baren as a wood block forum it has been very stimulating for me,living out in the hinterlands of down east Maine, to find all of you. i dont believe we should open to ALL types, but remain a WOODCUT forum - which is happy to discuss , all other types of relief printing. like some i have not had much to say -mostly because of computer in- competance and over-all slowed downess of being a semi-hermit . i have found it hard to keep up with a long post every day and just this week read thru the last 30 or so post and deleted them . now i try to read each day and print out what i want to keep . thanks to everyone for wonderful and informative discussions. as one who still doesnt wear gloves and prints with oil base , Van Son inks , please tell - what sort of gloves and what about fumes ,do you all wear respirators? yes to Bea-- it is a big black mess ! but i think thats part of what i like about oil- i like to get dirty, and one does ! does anyone use soy ink ? does it last ? and ,to water base ink users does cleaning the wood blocks with water do any damage to the grain i.e.-changing it over repeated washings or opening it up ?? I have benn cutting wood blocks since i was in high school and lino blocks since 4th grade . lino is easier and wonderful for beginning carvers to learn the techniques of carving and what the tools do when I have taught relief printingl and started them off in wood ,quite a few become discouraged at how difficult it seems but if i start them off in lino usually everyone loves it and then can progress to wood once they build up the strength of their hands . some will never like wood it is harder and each piece of wood will have its own pecularlarities much more to think about and master with wood personally i love the grain and the knots and all the ways in which one can use the wood itself to help create the image- as Maria has aptly dubbed "out of the wood" prints and i call "treespeaking" . the wood block has a story, a voice , already in it ; whereas linoleum is simply a blank surface, and can never have the 'character' that wood has. but lino has its own different character of stark, solidness which, in my opinion, emulates wood engraving more than woodcuts on the sidegrain. i have found the use of a knife in linoleum to very much imitate engraving.try just drawing with a knife in lino then printing it . i use this technique alot for animal fur- which reminds me,i like the idea of an endangered species exchange, maine has just listed salmon (with much controversy) and really should do lynx too! well , there 's my over due two cents -GG - ---------- ------------------------------ From: Legreenart@cs.com Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 00:43:35 EST Subject: [Baren 12637] Re: Sticking to woodblock I strongly suspect that what has made this such a great discussion group is that it has a central focus.Some straying is natural, but having a central core of very involved people is what keeps this lively. I don't do hanga, but it is the focus and depth of Hanga knowledge that keeps this interesting to me. It gives it a common thread. I think that it helps alot that there is an enclopedia web site that questioners can be directed to, so that members don't have to repeatedly explain everything that has already been explained. Like a good meeting, thare is enough excitement to generate conversational offshoots, but the chair calls everyone back to order before the purpose of the meeting is lost. Meanwhile, I get more and more interested in learning hanga. Discussions on Printmakers one list just seem so random, although attempts have been made to develop ongoing conversations Yours, Le Green Stonemetal Press Email: legreenart@cs.com Website: www.stonemetalpress.homepage.com ------------------------------ From: Gerald Soworka Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 21:35:54 +1100 Subject: [Baren 12638] Re: on lino and other relief forms the PrintAustralia discussion group deals with all print media including lino and other relief work. there are many baren people there and some other knowledgeable folk. You can join at http://www.egroups.com/group/PrintAustralia Gerald ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V13 #1257 *****************************