Baren Digest             Thursday, 14 December 2000     Volume 13 : Number 1244


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From: owner-baren
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 23:39:10 -0800
Subject: [Baren 12462] Re: tools 

Carolyn,...Hi,..I don't know if you know about Wood Carvers Supply
they are at
WWW.woodcarverssupply.com and they have what you need I think,...at
least there's a large selection to look over. Order their catalog, at
the top of page #20 there's a small chip carving knife, a style which
I like a lot. Good luck.
Philip
Pacific NW

> I'd like to hear what you know about tools for cuttiing lino...can
they
> be the same type as you use for cutting woodblocks or must you use
> something like Speedball lino cutters?  Is there something better
than
> Speedball cutters out there...can you sharpen Speedball cutters?
Must

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From: Daniel Dew <ddew@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 09:18:04 -0500
Subject: [Baren 12463] Re: tools 

Here come the Lino Man!

The Speedball tools are all I use in cutting lino.  I don't want to ruin my
wood tools and the Speedball ones work so very well.  Buy just a couple
handles and then buy the blades seperately.  Blades are available from
Graphic Chemical, McClains, Pearl Art Supplies, Franks and almost
everywhere.  They are cheap, usually two or three bucks for a package of
three.  I never sharpen my Speedball blades, way to fragile and way to cheap
to hassle with.  You can outfit yourself with a decent lino set-up for less
than $20.00.

links requested:   http://www.graphicchemical.com/

or go here for more:  http://www.printmakersociety.com/Supplier.htm



Hope this helps.

Dan Dew

P.S.  Here are few of my examples using lino blocks and tools:
http://www.dandew.com/proverbs3_18.htm
http://www.dandew.com/luke6_44.htm
http://www.dandew.com/isaiah40_31.htm
http://www.dandew.com/psalm46_5.htm

> From: Carolyn Pflederer <pfledere@northnet.net>
> 
> I'd like to hear what you know about tools for cuttiing lino...can they
> be the same type as you use for cutting woodblocks or must you use
> something like Speedball lino cutters?  Is there something better than
> Speedball cutters out there...can you sharpen Speedball cutters?  Must

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From: "jerelee" <jerelee@main.nc.us>
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:18:33 -0600
Subject: [Baren 12465] japanese woodblocks 

Here's my one cent from a master printer, Keiji Shinohara. He had us make
our designs on tracing paper than we made a registration copy from mylar
that was placed on top of the original drawing. Each additional woodblock or
design element from the original drawing was also traced with mylar. The
mylar was coated with a spray adhesive(Super 77 3m spray) on the side you
have drawn on and then put on the woodblock. It's easy to carve the images
with the mylar in place.

 He also uses wall paste with his colors as he applied it to the blocks.
What exactly is the purpose of this? Anyone else use this method? Jerelee


> Have you or anyone else been having trouble cutting through the Sumi paper
> cleanly?
> Mine has been tearing somewhat. I think I should either use thinner paper
> or paper that some that can be peeled from the back. The sumi paper I use

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From: Wanda <robertson@canby.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 09:16:43 -0700
Subject: [Baren 12466] Re: japanese woodblocks 

For those of you that still don't understand what "hanga" and "Japanese
Woodblock" 
mean - go to http://woodblock.com & look around for a while. There are pictures,
explanations, whole books to read.

Jerelee - Did you carve through the mylar pasted down on your blocks? The
wallpaper paste (or rice paste or methyl-cellulose) is used as a binder to help
hold the pigment in the paper. 

Carolyn - I use my Japanese woodblock tools on linoleum. Most linoleum blocks are
easy to cut. I don't think you would ruin your tools on them. My advice is to buy
fewer, but better (higher priced) tools. You will never be sorry. I have a big
collection of tools that I never use. Live and learn. 

My $.02 worth.

Wanda

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From: "Jean Eger" <jeaneger@LanMinds.Com>
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:01:40 -0800
Subject: [Baren 12467] snakes 

Some people have been sending me two snakes, and I am mystified why they are
doing that.  I will return the extra snake ASAP.  True, we don't have many
snakes in this area, but the snakes you are sending me are non-native and
may not live long in the wild, even with a mate.  My terrarium only holds 56
snakes.
Jean Eger-Womack
http://users.lanminds.com/~jeaneger

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From: Cucamongie@aol.com
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:40:14 EST
Subject: [Baren 12468] snakes! 

Hi all, I went to the year of the snake list, and I'm not sure if there were 
a couple of names on the end who are new and that I didn't send snakes to.  
Sorry to post this to Baren, but we don't have a separate email for snake 
posts that I know of :), anyway, if you're one of the snakey stragglers and 
haven't received my silly sparkly snakes, please email me offlist & let me 
know-
best wishes
Sarah

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From: barebonesart <barebonesart@home.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:43:37 -0800
Subject: [Baren 12469] Re: Baren Digest V13 #1243 

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Sender: owner-baren@ml.asahi-net.or.jp
Precedence: bulk
Reply-To: baren
[Baren]: The mailing list / discussion forum for woodblock printmaking.
X-AMLS-Stamp: baren 12469 yrSgGmwDwm6a.

I've forgotten who it was who was using laquer thinner, but do be careful!
It is highly carcinogen they say, as is zylene - the althernate for the
xerox transfer. (I took a class where the Berol color blender was
recommended and promoted as less toxic. Ha! It is zylene in a felt tip pen.)
Use a respirator rated for solvent fumes and, yes, heavy gloves. I know too
many printmakers who are suffering the consequences of our unbridled youth
when we were all invincible and only sissies wore gloves. So far, I've been
lucky, but I also got more careful about 10 years ago!

Carolyn, I use my woodcut tools for linoleum, but not the other way around!
Lino won't hurt your tools, it is easier on them than wood, and you can
sharpen as needed.
Sharri LaPierre

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From: "Bridget Henry" <bridgetmaryh@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:03:10 -0800
Subject: [Baren 12470] Re: Baren Digest V13 #1243 

Hi Bareners, I have really enjoyed all the snakes coming into my home, I am 
happy to offer them a place to call their own after being kicked of other 
locations.  I just received Daniel Dew's print and I love it.  I still think 
that the poor snake of Eden got a bum rap.  My snakeys will be out in 
January they are currently on the drying rack. Bridget


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From: brad <brads@iea.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 14:12:36 -0800
Subject: [Baren 12471] Re: tools 

Hi...

I use my wood cut tools on lino with no problem at all.
In fact, the lino tends to act like a 'strop' and hone the fine edges of the
knives...

The Speedball tools aren't the greatest... especially if you're really going
at it and that lovely plastic handle breaks... my prof in school told me a
story like that... he had to take the student to the hospital to have some
nasty stitches in her wrist... not good.

Daniel Smith has a set of lino tools (the ash colored handles) and a set of
woodcut tools (burgundy handles)... they both work on wood or lino without a
hitch. 

Save the money on new Speedball blades and buy a good set of hand tools that
can be used for everything.... oh and maybe buy a sharpening stone! :)

Brad

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From: "Maria Arango" <maria@mariarango.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 14:32:23 -0800
Subject: [Baren 12472] snake stamps 

The USPS snake stamp is not due until 1/20/01, you can preview it here:

http://shop.usps.com/cgi-bin/vsbv/postal_store_non_ssl/browse_content/stampR
eleaseDisplay.jsp?OID=8255&BV_SessionID=@@@@0693822754.0976746535@@@@&BV_Eng
ineID=ealjicgefedbijbeclmcfej.0

It's a long url, copy and paste rather than try to click from this message!
Or go to http://www.usps.com and dig around for new stamp releases.
I'm afraid I will have to wait for it even though my snakes are nearly done;
the principle of the thing...but I promise everyone will get one.
Cheers,
Maria

<><><><><><><><><><><><>
Maria Arango, Printmaker
Las Vegas  Nevada  USA
http://www.1000woodcuts.com
maria@mariarango.com
<><><><><><><><><><><><>

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From: barebonesart <barebonesart@home.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:43:37 -0800
Subject: [Baren 12473] Re: Baren Digest V13 #1243 

I've forgotten who it was who was using laquer thinner, but do be careful!
It is highly carcinogen they say, as is zylene - the althernate for the
xerox transfer. (I took a class where the Berol color blender was
recommended and promoted as less toxic. Ha! It is zylene in a felt tip pen.)
Use a respirator rated for solvent fumes and, yes, heavy gloves. I know too
many printmakers who are suffering the consequences of our unbridled youth
when we were all invincible and only sissies wore gloves. So far, I've been
lucky, but I also got more careful about 10 years ago!

Carolyn, I use my woodcut tools for linoleum, but not the other way around!
Lino won't hurt your tools, it is easier on them than wood, and you can
sharpen as needed.
Sharri LaPierre

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From: "john ryrie" <jryrie@one.net.au>
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:50:24 +1100
Subject: [Baren 12474] snake 

Hi
I  have had a bit of luck, I found some one to store my letterpress
equipment for a few years till, I can use it again so I don't have to get
rid of it.  I have a small etching press that I will take with me when I
fined a place to live.  This means that I will print and send out my snake
cards but it will be a bit late.   I have already received five snake
prints, thank you.

John
http://www.geocities.com/laddertree

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From: ArtfulCarol@aol.com
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 20:57:42 EST
Subject: [Baren 12475] Baren Website 

To all you Bareners
Thank you to Dave, Wanda and all of you who are part of this wonderful site- 
the discussions ,information, communications, support, etc, etc.!  I tell 
people you are my fourth dimension and they are amazed that such a group 
exists.

Also, yesterday I used a ball bearing baren for the first time and it was 
much better than the Speedball Baren I have been using.  What a difference 
the right tool makes Will order one from McClain's tomorrow.

Check out the SF group meeting on Show and Tell on the Baren Forum.  Jean 
Eger made a lovely party for us.

This is the day  that goes down in history...Gore goes on TV in a minute and 
then Bush.. Enough said!!.

Carol Lyons

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From: Vollmer/Yamaguchi <jy6@columbia.edu>
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 23:12:59 -0400
Subject: [Baren 12476] Do's and Don'ts 

Don't use good woodcut tools on linolium, it will ruin them. And don't use
laquer thinner to transfer xeroxes, DO use Citra-Solv (800-343-6588). It is
not 100% safe, but much better than laquer thinner. Works great.

April Vollmer
174 Eldridge St, NYC 10002, 212-677-5691
http://www.aprilvollmer.com

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From: Lawrence <vurt1@optushome.com.au>
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 16:35:08 +1100
Subject: [Baren 12477] Re: tools 

I agree with Brad, the speedball tools are not the best for 2 important 
reasons, the first is that they cannot be re sharpened (which means that 
your limited to the cut that speedball have formed for you, not to mention 
the waste aspect) and secondly they tend to shatter or snap when pressure 
is misapplied which sometimes happens for normal sorts of reasons (I have 
seen some great gash wounds as result).

I'm a firm believer in the old school ethos which means that you sharpen 
your pencil with a knife (never a sharpener) and you sharpen your tools by 
hand. It allows you to know the tools better and you get a feel for the 
different steel types and the limits they have.

Have a look at the tools at http://www.lawrence.co.uk/ I love their V tools 
and U gouges and they can always be reshaped in oldage.


Regards

Lawrence

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From: Legreenart@cs.com
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 01:02:57 EST
Subject: [Baren 12478] Re: Baren Digest V13 #1239 

I found one address blind embossing chops. I am quoting web info, and don't 
know aay tthing else about the man.

Todd Frye, Director/master printer for Koda Lithographik, a publisher of 
limited edition lithographs, monotypes and cyanotypes; also designer and 
manufacturer of antiquated printing tools, such as leather ink rollers, 
curating brushes and chop marks, 1113 South 400 East, Springville, UT 84663, 
Phone: 801-489-8427

Did any one else find a blind embossinf chop dealer? if so I missed it, and 
would like to hear about them.



Yours, 
Le Green
Stonemetal Press
Email: legreenart@cs.com
Website:  www.stonemetalpress.homepage.com

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From: "Jean Eger" <jeaneger@LanMinds.Com>
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 00:08:54 -0800
Subject: [Baren 12479] snakes 

Hello Bareners,
I put the first batch of snakes in the mail today.  They are hiding in the
dark under the flowers.  Whoever is going to scan them for Dave's website,
please e-mail me so I can send you a brighter copy.  They are linocuts
printed on black paper and probably won't scan at all.  What fun!  The first
batch was done by hand on black Thai wrapping paper, using Speedball ink.  I
put a little white into the color to make it show up a little better.  I am
using a little proof press that I bought for $25 at the local art center,
for the second batch, which will be on card stock, unless someone complains.
It's not kosher, but it looks good.
Jean Eger-Womack
http://users.lanminds.com/~jeaneger

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From: Lawrence <vurt1@optushome.com.au>
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 19:10:24 +1100
Subject: [Baren 12481] Re: snake 

Way good...

Leave equipment and you never get it again, I've 2 presses in Germany :-(

  regards



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