Baren Digest              Monday, 4 December 2000      Volume 13 : Number 1234


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From: "Cate Pfeifer" <Cate108@Earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 08:33:30 -0500
Subject: [Baren 12304] Chops and such charset="iso-8859-1" 

>     With so much interest in chops out there, how 'bout The Baren Council
> designing a chop for members that have taken part in at least one of the
> Baren exchanges?  This might be an incentive for some to participate and/or
> those who choose to use it, a badge of honour, if you will.
>
>  Eli Griggs

Hi Eli,

I have gathered the materials I need (including my father's 1968 dental
drill to carve the tiny lines) and am in the process of setting up my studio
to allow me to  start creating chops myself.  My best friend is a professor
of Japanese History and she said that the is willing to help with the
selection of characters to get the meanings that we desire - direct
translation by picking words out of a Japanese or Chinese dictionary can be
dangerous.

It seems that the only thing that I am lacking is a studio (I am in the
process of transforming my spare bedroom) and the time (nothing I can do
about that).  I was fortunate to get a lessons from a chop maker in Chicago
but, alas, she has retired.  One of my first order is from our very own Kate
Courchaine.

I must confess that I am not crazy about connecting chop designing with the
exchanges.  It is not needed as an incentive - there seems to be no problems
with getting people to participate in the exchanges.  It only creates an
unnecessary entry barrier to what should be freely disseminated information.

If anyone wants to talk about chops - their design, carving, use, or social
function - please e-mail me.  I will be happy to share whatever I know.

Cate Pfeifer







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From: Graham Scholes <gscholes@home.com>
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 10:24:37 -0800
Subject: [Baren 12305] Re: Chops and such 

Cate wrote.....
>I must confess that I am not crazy about connecting chop designing with the
>exchanges.  It is not needed as an incentive - there seems to be no problems
>with getting people to participate in the exchanges.  It only creates an
>unnecessary entry barrier to what should be freely disseminated information.

Here here....  You thoughts were kind  Eli, but it present a lot of 
logistic problems.

Eli wrote.....
>This might be an incentive for some to participate and/or
>those who choose to use it, a badge of honour, if you will.

I am of the school that the incentive is the inner creative desire....

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Cate I would be very interested in feed back about this.....
>If anyone wants to talk about chops - their design, carving, use, or social
>function - please e-mail me.  I will be happy to share whatever I know.

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>Thank you Graham for nice words and thanks for the correction - bad typing.
>Bea Gold
>
>http://www.beagold.com/


Perfect ....

Compliments of the Season
Graham





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From: "Daniel L. Dew" <ddew0001@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 13:18:42 -0500
Subject: [Baren 12306] A Slithering Good Time 

Hello everyone, Pete has informed me that he is in the middle of finlas, but
he has updated the snake exchange page.
It is at:  http://www.geocities.com/pedrobot2000/snake.html

I think we should set a cut-off for the Dec. 5th?

Any other ideas?


dan dew





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From: "C. L. Stevens" <clswdcut@intersurf.com>
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 14:00:43 -0600
Subject: [Baren 12307] Re: display of blocks 

Wanda wrote:
> I love the blocks themselves & am thinking of making
> folding screens from some of mine. It would be especially nice (I think)
> if they were carved on both sides.

Wanda, I've been out of town for a while and am now just going through mail,
etc.  I like your screen idea.  It really started me thinking!  Thanks.
Catherine L. Stevens





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From: Arafat Alnaim <ar_alnaim@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 12:49:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 12308] chinesewoodblock 

Dear Bareners,
I'm pleased to share with you this interesting link
about Chinese woodblock print.
http://www.artgallery.sbc.edu/exhibits/00_01/chinesewoodblock/
Hope you enjoy it.
Regards
Arafat Al-Naim

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From: "eli griggs" <eli.griggs@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 15:43:46 -0500
Subject: [Baren 12309] Re: Chops and such charset="iso-8859-1" 

Hi there:

    Cate, I agree that the exchanges have no problems get enough eager
printers to sign-up.  After taking part in #6, I could hardly wait to sigh
up for #8, an excitement of anticipation I am pretty sure I shared with many
others.  However, I believe that you misunderstand my suggestion.

    What I am suggesting is a small reward of sorts for those members who
have/do participate and a 'carrot' to coax otherwise shy members into
getting their feet wet.

    I do not suggest that anyone who did not wish to use such a device in
their prints do so or that it be required on any Baren Exchange print.

    It's just that I believe that some Baren members would like to use a
chop in some of their printmaking activities and may be put off by the
thought that linking their personal identity to a signature chop.  I feel
that some of us believe that a chop is a bit of a pretension and are fearful
of being seen as such.

    A Baren Chop would allow them to incorporate a chop into their design
while letting them sign prints in the usual way.  The chop would be one of
association only, not mandatory at all, and most certainly not any sort of
gate keeping device.  This is not a test.

    Seen in that light I fail to see how it would create "an unnecessary
entry barrier to what should be freely disseminated information."

    What do others think about using a Baren chop?

Eli Griggs
Charlotte N.C.
USA










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From: Aqua4tis@aol.com
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 21:58:25 EST
Subject: [Baren 12310] Re: Chops and such 

hi eli and everyone
   persoanlly  i love the idea of a baren chop   self help graphics has its 
own chop    so why not us???
georga

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From: "Bea Gold" <bnj50@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 19:49:50 -0800
Subject: [Baren 12311] Re: chinesewoodblock charset="iso-8859-1" 

> Dear Bareners,
> I'm pleased to share with you this interesting link
> about Chinese woodblock print.
> http://www.artgallery.sbc.edu/exhibits/00_01/chinesewoodblock/

Thank you for the Chinese woodblock site Arafat - it is very interesting.  

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> I think we should set a cut-off for the Dec. 5th?

Why do you want a cut off Dan?  Just send as many as you want - to everyone
or as many as you can.  This is nice non structured exchange.  Whatcha
think?

Bea Gold
bnj50@earthlink.net
http://www.beagold.com/
Los Angeles, California




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From: "Jean Eger" <jeaneger@LanMinds.Com>
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 20:36:17 -0800
Subject: [Baren 12312] Re:   Baren Digest V13 #1233 charset="iso-8859-1" 

>     With so much interest in chops out there, how 'bout The Baren Council
> designing a chop for members that have taken part in at least one of the
> Baren exchanges?  This might be an incentive for some to participate and/or
> those who choose to use it, a badge of honour, if you will.

What a great idea, Eli.

Jean Eger-Womack
http://users.lanminds.com/~jeaneger



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