Baren Digest Wednesday, 29 November 2000 Volume 13 : Number 1229 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Dew Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:18:20 -0500 Subject: [Baren 12258] New sun rising Wow, it all sounds awesome! I thought at some point this would have to occur, it was just getting too big. But with size comes clout and I'm happy to see the changes, and sad that Dave is taking a lesser role. I have been in contact with the local Artists Unlimited Gallery here in Tampa and they have expressed interest in holding an exhibition. I will keep you informed as time goes on about the details. Has anyone (new board members) ever considered adding a link section for local print organizations on the site? I would add the Baren link to the Florida Printmakers Society site if it was reciprocated. Just think, whether an artist hits SGC (Southern Graphic Council), FPS (Florida Printamkers Society), MPS (Maryland) or whatever site, they can find Baren and vice versa. I heard about Baren on a fluke and spent days looking for it. How many others are out there? Just an idea, dan dew ------------------------------ From: Wanda Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 07:28:20 -0700 Subject: [Baren 12259] Re: Rollers, Brayers and Wintergreen In my experience - brayers are small (4to 5 inches long, 1" around), with a handle & rollers are big (12" to 14"long, 4" to 5" around) and with handles on the ends, like a rolling pin for the kitchen. Oil of wintergreen - hmmmm, I don't know. Wanda ------------------------------ From: "Jeanne Norman Chase" Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:13:01 -0500 Subject: [Baren 12260] Re: Rollers, Brayers and Wintergreen charset="iso-8859-1" Arafat When I attended a workshop in St. Ives (United Kingdom), 2 years ago, I kept saying "brayer", a few of the teachers looked like they did not know what I was talking about. So finally one day one of them asked me, "just what is a brayer", and I held one up and she said "Oh, you mean a roller". Same thing. Jeanne N. ------------------------------ From: heather nichols Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 08:27:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Baren 12261] watercolor magazine I just recently picked up the latest issue of watercolor magazine and came across April Vollmer's woodblock hanga print on page 78 included in the article about a baby safe studio. The print is beautiful, April. Heather ------------------------------ From: barbara patera Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 12:41:21 Pacific Daylight Time Subject: [Baren 12262] Re Brave new world Thanks to all of you who have worked and continue to work so hard for the " Baren" .... The changes, especially the non-profit status will be a real boon to the organization. Barbara P. ------------------------------ From: Brian Lockyear Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:17:38 -0800 Subject: [Baren 12263] Re: Dampening paper <200011272217.HAA09874@ml.asahi-net.or.jp> <200011280140.KAA41528@ml.asahi-net.or.jp> One solution to the shrinkage problem when doing reduction cuts is to wet and dry the paper once on its own. This will take out most of the shrinkage and the paper size will be pretty stable after that. - Brian - ------------------------------ From: "Jeanne Norman Chase" Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:46:15 -0500 Subject: [Baren 12264] Exhibition charset="iso-8859-1" Saw a pretty wonderful exhibition today. Our own Sarah Hauser has a woodblock print in the Sarasota Art Center. It is a show of the National Women Artists Organization. The Art Center is a beautiful place for art and her print is outstanding in the exhibition. Out of 109 pieces, there are 13 prints, 3 of which are woodblock prints. That seems to be better than usual as far as prints being included in National Shows. I took some pictures and as soon as I have them developed I will scan them for the Show and Tell page. Congratulations Sarah!!!! Jeanne N. ------------------------------ From: barebonesart Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:37:42 -0800 Subject: [Baren 12265] Re: Baren Digest V13 #1228 Arafat, Oil of Wintergreen is Methyl Salicylate or MS Synthetic. It is highly concentrated and needs to be used with care. Wear gloves. Brayers are small rollers with one handle, rollers are larger and have a handle on both ends. That's the explanation I received a long time ago. Maria, I print for days with wet paper and do not have any problems. I keep the paper wet throughout the process - print and then right back in the paper pack. I use glassine between prints to protect against ink transfer, but very little comes off on the glassine - sometimes none. I do not weight the paper until I'm completely through printing and ready to put the print between blotters to dry. Maybe I'm just lucky - or my registration doesn't need to be that tight - Congratulations to all the people who are working so hard to make Baren into Baren Forum, or however you describe the inner change. Thank you to all of you for your efforts above and beyond the call. Sharri L. ------------------------------ From: "Elizabeth B. Atwood" Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 14:41:31 -0500 Subject: [Baren 12266] Birthday! Happy Birthday, Baren............and thank you, Dave and all you "movers and shakers" that are busily keeping us on track. I have been a member for about 2 1/2 years and remain delighted and proud of all of you. For everyone's use: Has anyone thought of creating a press release, a short article or something we could use in local publications in our far-flung places to alert art communities about the existance of a medium that many believe to be dead?? And to do a little bragging about the Baren??? ElizA ------------------------------ From: Brian Lockyear Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 15:10:08 -0800 Subject: [Baren 12267] Re: Baren Digest V13 #1228 <200011282258.HAA07436@ml.asahi-net.or.jp> barebonesart@home.com writes: > I print for days with wet paper and do not have any problems. I keep the > paper wet throughout the process - print and then right back in the paper > pack. Sharri- Don't you have trouble with the sizing breaking down when you keep the paper wet for extended periods like this? Or perhaps you are using oil based inks? - Brian - ------------------------------ From: Scott Clugstone Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 18:07:37 -0500 Subject: [Baren 12268] the new Baren organization Greetings. I am a slowly emerging member, named Scott Clugstone. I can only just browse the Digest at this time. I do whiteline woodblock. I just want to send my thanks and great admiration for the folks who have obviously labored long and hard to put together this fabulous website of service, fellowship, and incredible beauty. I just browsed the exchange gallery for the first time. I am in awe. I hope to participate more in the coming months. Thank you so very much. Scott. ------------------------------ From: "Maria Arango" Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 16:28:51 -0800 Subject: [Baren 12269] Prodigies and stuff charset="iso-8859-1" If you have not been introduced to the world of fine detail and excellence in drawing, [Baren] member James Mundie has an ongoing exhibition which can be viewed online here: http://www.missioncreep.com/mundie/index.htm For those of you that have not seen Jim's work, the fine detail is as exquisite in his drawings as it is in his razor-blade cut woodcut prints. No, I am not his agent, just an impressed fan. Re: links Good idea about expanding the links page, but let's keep links international in nature, as is our membership. Also, links are a great resource for everyone on the web and, although I admit I go a bit crazy on my pages. But if someone is looking for printmaking information, I would rather they find it from my links page than have to deal with the results that will come from entering "print" in a search engine. My point is, no negative reference to Dan's request, that all printmaking sites should link to each other pretty much regardless of reciprocity. Every time the word "woodblock" is mentioned in my website, it is probably linked to woodblock.com (or now, barenforum.org). I once received an unrequested email message that stated: "We have placed a link to The Printmaking Studio on our links page. We attach a banner (120x460) which needs to be placed in your links page immediately with a link to our website." No kidding. I would post where I told them I was placing the link, but this is a family friendly forum. And speaking of links, I was carefully and steadily building a Printmaking Glossary page on my website when I found this: http://www.cofa.unsw.edu.au/units/art/print/GlossFiles/glossary.html One less project for me! Health to all, Maria de Las Vegas (another Maria in the forum! Can we take two of us? Don't answer that...:) PS Welcome all ye lurkers, Maria, Scott, hmmm...I'm sure I missed someone <><><><><><><><><><><><> Maria Arango, Printmaker Las Vegas Nevada USA http://www.1000woodcuts.com maria@mariarango.com <><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 16:52:15 -0800 Subject: [Baren 12270] Re: Rollers, Brayers and Wintergreen >When I attended a workshop in St. Ives (United Kingdom), 2 years ago, I kept >saying "brayer", a few of the teachers looked like they did not know what I >was talking about. So finally one day one of them asked me, "just what is a >brayer", and I held one up and she said "Oh, you mean a roller". Same thing. That's about it.... Kinda like tomato and tomato. >One solution to the shrinkage problem when doing reduction cuts is to wet and >dry the paper once on its own. This will take out most of the shrinkage and >the paper size will be pretty stable after that. > > - Brian - and when you rewet it make sure you bring it back the same moisture content or wetness each time. Graham/Victoria BC An Island in the Pacific Home of the Boot Camp ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:02:14 -0800 Subject: [Baren 12271] Re: Baren Digest V13 #1228 >Don't you have trouble with the sizing breaking down when you keep the paper >wet for extended periods like this? Or perhaps you are using oil based inks? During the winter and the studio is cool I keep my paper wet up to 6 days for hanga method, before I become concerned about mould. Never have sizing problems. Graham/Victoria BC An Island in the Pacific Home of the Boot Camp ------------------------------ From: "Bea Gold" Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:34:45 -0800 Subject: [Baren 12272] Re: hand coloring prints charset="iso-8859-1" I've been gone a few days and found the discussion about hand coloring. I have hand painted under my prints by using burnt sienna pastel on the block and making a rubbing of the print, then using this outline, I have used either water color or waterbased inks and palate knife to build a rich paint texture. I have colored the print to my fancy. When all is dry I print over the hand coloring, not being too careful to register the print on the burnt sienna because I like the shadow of the pastel. Another way I have hand colored is to paint on the back of the print. The effect of this coloring is very subtle. You can see the palate knife and inks on my site under woodcuts - The Audience and Story Time and painted on the back is Jamaica. www.beagold.com Bea ------------------------------ From: Wanda Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:46:56 -0700 Subject: [Baren 12273] Re: Baren Digest V13 #1228 <200011282258.HAA07436@ml.asahi-net.or.jp> <200011282311.IAA15444@ml.asahi-net.or.jp> Sharri wrote: > > I print for days with wet paper and do not have any problems. I keep the > > paper wet throughout the process - print and then right back in the paper > > pack. Brian: > Don't you have trouble with the sizing breaking down when you keep the paper > wet for extended periods like this? Or perhaps you are using oil based inks? My question is: How do you keep the paper from getting moldy while you are working in a relatively warm place? Wanda ------------------------------ From: Jim Bryant Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 19:11:42 -0700 Subject: [Baren 12274] Re: Rollers, Brayers and Wintergreen >Is there any other name of Wintergreen oil? It is often called Oil of Wintergreen--not much difference, but maybe enough to throw you off on an internet search. If you are having trouble finding it, try a good (big) pharmacy. Usually kept behind the counter, just ask the pharmacist. Around the southwest I have no trouble finding it at a Walgreen's and smaller pharmacies will usually order it. jim- ------------------------------ From: ArtfulCarol@aol.com Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:43:10 EST Subject: [Baren 12275] Re: Exhibition Four of us Bareners saw an exhibit including 2 prints of Sarah's in a Gallery in Berkeley, CA. It was great to view her lovely works there. We- Jean Eger, Catherine Stevens, Marco Flavio, and I had arranged to meet and spend the day. Jean invited us to her house in Point Richmond along with 2 husbands and Catherine's daughter, Kate, We had a great time getting to know one another ,sharing prints and their stories, and noshing. The husbands "bonded " in the kitchen, while we did the same in Jean's studio, viewing her prints and her print collection. Nothing can compare to meeting in person! Carol Lyons www.rst-art.com/artfulcarol.htm ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 19:58:13 -0800 Subject: [Baren 12276] Re: Baren Digest V13 #1228 >My question is: How do you keep the paper from getting moldy while you >are working in a relatively warm place? > >Wanda ICE IT..... COLD SHOULDER won't work..... In the summer with warm moist temp you may have two days at most before the growies start. I freeze the bundle every night. Bundle consists of 20 pieces or less of Hosho paper. Takes about 1/2 hour to thaw. Then you are ready to resume printing. go see how to hold the baren when tying on the takenokawa. http://members.home.net/gscholes/clamp.html/ I finally got to this..... John dislocated his shoulder and I offered to tie on the takenokawa. I had to do all of mine.... 5 of them.... plus the ones for John so now we are hummin' After spoil 3 of them .... a little rusty I guess... I think I got it after doing 10 barens. I know one thing for sure..... sorest damn fingers in town. Off the paint the gallery walls and hang the next show..... Whew.... Graham/Victoria BC An Island in the Pacific Home of the Boot Camp ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V13 #1229 *****************************