Baren Digest             Saturday, 4 November 2000     Volume 13 : Number 1204


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From: Cucamongie@aol.com
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 08:49:28 EST
Subject: [Baren 11959] Sarah's work in exhibition in Berkeley EMortensen@ci.walnut-creek.ca.us, lisagordon@mindspring.com, studionotes-l@topica.com 

Hi folks, just wanted to let you know that I have a couple of pieces up in a 
show in Berkeley, Ca which will be opening soon.  The show is called Windows, 
the gallery is Dana McCutcheon Gallery, 2571 Shattuck Avenue no. 1a.  The 
opening is November 11, 4-8pm, and if you are unable to make it to the 
opening, the gallery is open by appointment and you can reach Dana by calling 
510-701-6265.  The show is hanging from November 4 to December 2.
best wishes all,
Sarah Hauser
Cucamongie@aol.com

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From: B Mason <bemason@concentric.net>
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 08:32:33 -0800
Subject: [Baren 11960] exhibits 

Sarah, congrats on your piece being up in California. the more times we
show the better.

Yuri, I ate dinner right across the street from your daughters exhibit
last night on our first thursday art walk. I wish I had know she was
showing work at Robert Cananga's gallery. He is such a nice man, so she
is in good hands. It is a tiny gallery, but usually has interesting
work. I will try to get in to see it this month.
Barbara


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From: "Jean Eger" <jeaneger@LanMinds.Com>
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 08:51:20 -0800
Subject: [Baren 11961] Re:   Baren Digest V13 #1203 charset="iso-8859-1" 

> We're now in November, and that means of course, that the deadline
> for prints to be finished for Exchange #7 is now here. Jeanne is
> ready to start her final 'round-up' and will no doubt be getting out
> her lasso, or whip, or whatever she decides to use on the stragglers!

I'm glad I didn't get into Exchange #7, because I don't like that kind of
action.  I don't like being forced.

Jean Eger-Womack
http://users.lanminds.com/~jeaneger


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From: Daniel Dew <ddew@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 11:58:35 -0500
Subject: [Baren 11962] Re:   Baren Digest V13 #1203 

Forced?
Forced?
How can anyone be forced when they signed up for the exchange three months
prior?  They made a commitment to provide 31 prints on a specific date three
months in advance.
Forced?
Strongly encouraged maybe, but not forced.

dan dew



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From: barbara patera <b.patera@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 100 09:05:50 Pacific Daylight Time
Subject: [Baren 11963] Re: Sarah's show 

Hi Sarah,

 Wish I lived close enough to come to the opening...... Congratulatons! Hope you post some pictures of the 
show for those of us who won't be able to see it in person.
Barbara P.

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From: Wanda <robertson@canby.com>
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 09:23:16 -0700
Subject: [Baren 11964] Re: Birch plywood again, etc 

Well, that is really good news - both about the blocks and about your
daughter's sales! Congratulations to her!

I was just thinking about you last night, as I finished carving an image
on one of the small blocks. It really is nice to carve. Yes, I think 5'
by 5' will be big enough for most of us! :-)

Let me know prices when you get the wood. I am interested in some for
hanga, about 8x10 and 10x13 inches, not feet. 

I must get in & see your daughter's work in person!

Wanda

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From: Wanda <robertson@canby.com>
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 09:48:17 -0700
Subject: [Baren 11965] Re: Birch plywood again, etc 

Oops! Sorry about that - meant to go to Yuri personally, as his was
meant to go to me personally. 

But, if any of you are interested in trying some Siberian Birch! It
really is nice stuff. Cuts a little like shina, but has more substance
that shina. Well, you just have to try it!

Wanda

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From: Graham Scholes <gscholes@home.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 09:47:01 -0800
Subject: [Baren 11966] Devil's Advocate 


I would not be in favour of have a contest amongst the baren members.

The list server is a special and unique forum that see NO 
competition. There is a wonderful generousity and willingness to 
share ideas. This enables each person to grow and expand there 
knowledge.  It is hard  work that is the key of growth for an artist.
Awards do nothing to ad to this objective.

Only three people are happy.
The first, the second, and the third place, winners
Everybody else ..... please exuse the expression..... is P'ed off 
because of the rejection.

In the adjudication of Arts there is very little objectivity, if any, 
and comes down to a great deal of subjectivity in the choice of 
awards.  It matters not what level of expertise you thing you have 
employed to do the job.  Proof of this is how one piece of work is 
rejected from a competition and yet gets top honours at the next 
competition.
If it hasn't happened to you yet..... it possibly will if you enter 
enough competitions.

I do not see how issuing awards will improve what we have got going now.
- -----------------------snip-------------------------------
Based on the feedback of 23 postings, only 3, in part, got personal.

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From: Ruth Oprean-Cardillo <ruthonly@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 10:39:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 11967] Re: Birch plywood again, etc 

Hi...a low profile Baran member... where do you
purchanse Siberian Birch? Ruth


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From: "Maria Arango" <maria@mariarango.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 10:51:26 -0800
Subject: [Baren 11968] new stuff charset="iso-8859-1" 

A couple new prints:
http://www.1000woodcuts.com/fullsize/entreviento.html
for the Where I Live exchange in that wonderful PrintAustralia international
printmakers association and premiere site (am I out of the dog house, Josie?
;-)
This is a "puzzle" print, where the block was cut into 5 pieces, inked
separately, then reassembled at press. It was so much fun I might just do a
few more.

http://www.1000woodcuts.com/fullsize/thrugorge.html
On the road series, through the Virgin River gorge, straight out of Vegas
Valley. Just a lil' engraving.

http://www.1000woodcuts.com/fullsize/swcondos.html
Sneak preview of Exch #7 print, so don't look if you don't wanna see it
early. It's not hilarious or nothing. This one has the textured block
technique we were discussing a week ago or so.

Off to art fairs in the next two weekends.
Maria

<><><><><><><><><><><><>
Maria Arango, Printmaker
Las Vegas  Nevada  USA
http://www.1000woodcuts.com
maria@mariarango.com
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From: "Jeanne Norman Chase" <studiojnc@prodigy.net>
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 14:03:55 -0500
Subject: [Baren 11969] Re:   Baren Digest V13 #1203 charset="iso-8859-1" 

"the deadline to be finished for Exchange 7 is now here. Jeanne isready to
start her final 'round-up' and will no doubt be getting out her lasso, or
whip, or whatever she decides to use on the stragglers"
posted our Dave.

Jean, you are in Exchange # 7, and you have already sent in your entry. So I
did not have to get out the whip.
 Besides, he was only kidding.

Jeanne N.




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From: Graham Scholes <gscholes@home.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 11:33:48 -0800
Subject: [Baren 11970] Re: Birch plywood again, etc 

Is this material same or similar to Baltic Birch.?
I notice the size is 5'x 5' and that is what the Baltic Birch come in 
at our local specialty lumber yard.

Does it have a solid core?    ie. no air spaces in the centre cores.



I don't know what happened to the first posting....
Half of it was cut off.  Here it is in it's entirety.

This devil's advocate wrote this on Mon, 27 Mar 2000 5:36:27 pm


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From: Graham Scholes <gscholes@home.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 12:42:59 -0800
Subject: [Baren 11972] Re: Exhibition standards 

Dear Josephine,

Thanks for your feedback and frankness.... (don't every change).... 
about the Standards posting

I think I rattled the bushes a bit and am pleased as that was the 
full intent of the posting.  As far as the comments by two council 
members I have asked for a public apology as their response was 
Flaming.  It will be interesting to see if they have the guts.
If Julio comes through it will the the third apology in two years. 
Some people never learn.

Your other comments are right on.....
Say, How come they don't flame you???

I noticed the post from Maria calling you "Josie" Is this a nickname you use.?

Sincerely,

Graham

ps
>phallic symbolism and all that - so why that particularsubject? - 
>see I can be a >devil too *grin

Geez I have been found out ... my you are perceptive



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From: Graham Scholes <gscholes@home.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 12:49:00 -0800
Subject: [Baren 11973] Re: Exhibition standards 

My apologies to baren members.
This was a private thank you to

Dear Josephine,

Thanks for your feedback and frankness.... (don't every change).... 
about the Standards posting

I think I rattled the bushes a bit and am pleased as that was the 
full intent of the posting.  As far as the comments by two council 
members I have asked for a public apology as their response was 
Flaming.  It will be interesting to see if they have the guts.
If Julio comes through it will the the third apology in two years. 
Some people never learn.

Your other comments are right on.....
Say, How come they don't flame you???

I noticed the post from Maria calling you "Josie" Is this a nickname you use.?

Sincerely,

Graham

ps
>phallic symbolism and all that - so why that particularsubject? - 
>see I can be a >devil too *grin

Geez I have been found out ... my you are perceptive




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From: "Bea Gold" <bnj50@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 13:49:31 -0800
Subject: [Baren 11974] Re: Birch plywood again, etc charset="iso-8859-1" 

Yuri,  Please send me your personal e-mail address so I can talk to you
directly about ordering wood.

Bea Gold
2206 Micheltorena Street
Los Angeles, CA 90039
(323) 660-0106
bnj50@earthlink.net
>


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From: Jack Reisland <reislandj001@hawaii.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 13:01:31 -1000
Subject: [Baren 11975] Re: Exhibition standards 

I'm confused, if that was a private post, why post it again? Now it's twice as
not private!  :<)

Jack

Graham Scholes wrote:


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From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 17:36:08 -0600
Subject: [Baren 11976] Re: Devil's Advocate 

Graham writes:
"I don't know what happened to the first posting....
Half of it was cut off.  Here it is in it's entirety....."

Me thinks....it must not have muster up to the standards.... {;-)




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From: yuri <yuri@pacinfo.com>
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 16:12:47 -0700
Subject: [Baren 11977] Re: Birch plywood again, etc 

Dear Bea, Graham
 and all other interested in getting the information on Birch plywood.

 I will be glad to answer all your questions  regarding this matter.

My e-mail: 
 yuri@forestmachines.com
tel/fax 541-342-3068

Some of my company's  information on that material you can find at

http://www.forestmachines.com/plywood.html

Note: All prices for 4"x6" and 5"x7" blocks will be reduced 20% for
quantities more than 12 pcs  on November 15th.
We don't charge for handling, just for   shipping whatever it will cost.

I will let you  informed on prices for larger blocks when the  container
arrives  from Vladivostok to Seattle  when
we will know for sure all expenses involved.
We do our best in order to reduce already low prices .

Yes, Graham,  it's practically the same plywood as Baltic.
The only thing is that we have our blocks made from top-grade  100%
Birch  plywood.
No "apple core", no air, no knots or spots on the surface. 
You not always have the same quality at the lumber yards.
In addition, they usually charge $1 for more than 2-3 cuts.

It's very difficult to cut Birch plywood into smaller pieces.
You always get some scratches on one side. 

In order to give a possibility  to printmakers, especially   to 
students to use both sides of the blocks, 
we hired couple  Siberian workers to polish those areas by hand.
 So,  we get a very smooth surface on blocks  and less two Russian 
unemployed.

I will be  glad to know how many of you  would use both sides of the
block. 
Maybe, we don't have to do this on all blocks  if it's not as important.
Thus, the price per block
could be reduced.


 Sincerely,

Yuri Pantioukhin
FMWP,LLC  co-owner




Bea Gold wrote:
> 
> Yuri,  Please send me your personal e-mail address so I can talk to you
> directly about ordering wood.

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From: barebonesart <barebonesart@home.com>
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 20:56:54 -0800
Subject: [Baren 11978] Re: Baren Digest V13 #1203 

Hi Bareners,

My, my, my, my, my, but Graham has certainly stirred the hornets nest.  It
has really been fun reading all the verbage pro and con and up and down.
Baren is a very special entity, nothing else like it anyplace. (Oh, Maria,
you left out Northwest Print Council NWPC in your list of organizations! -
or were we NPC? - but we are exclusive - you have to live in the beautiful
Northwest USA/Canada to be an artist member. BUT, you can be an associate
member, support printmakers, get a print - etc. go to www.art2u.com and
click on NWPC). Anyway, what I'm rattling on about is the wonderful exchange
of ideas, so refreshing after all this politcal garbage we USA'ers have been
subjected to these many weeks. Thank you Graham, you little devil.

Here's a wonderful quote I ran across today - "Most artists don't daydream
about making great art - they daydream about having made great art."

Sharri



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From: =?iso-8859-1?q?dimitris=20grammatikopulos?= <aenaonartst@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 02:17:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 11979] Re: Devil's Advocate 

1...somebody's being his Own Advocate...
Let the Devil be, he has his own fire to put out...

2.Does anybody have knowledge of a frim producing and selling educational
sculpture copies?
Dimitris

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