Baren Digest Thursday, 26 October 2000 Volume 13 : Number 1193 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bea Gold" Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 15:43:33 -0700 Subject: [Baren 11848] Re: Baren Digest V13 #1191 charset="iso-8859-1" Welcome Gillyin and hello from sunny Los Angeles. Look at the Baren encyclopedia for Hanga method. Very different from oil based prints. I'm now trying a new way for me - Chinese woodblock prints. Also different and enjoyable. Bea Gold 2206 Micheltorena Street Los Angeles, CA 90039 (323) 660-0106 bnj50@earthlink.net http//www.beagold.com/ ------------------------------ From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 17:29:44 -0500 Subject: [Baren 11849] Re: pricing & web sales As someone who has purchased prints online.....I usually go for stuff that moves me, before I go ahead and move my wallet, regardless of name recognition. I am wondering here, how many of us printmakers purchase from other printmakers at all? This year alone I have purchased more than a dozen prints from other fellow printmakers, some even here on Baren. Mostly at under $100, but on at least two ocassions I was moved to purchase higher priced work. While the prices maybe "cheap" to some, I can assure that the work and the quality of the works is top notch. Some of my fine prints come from sales on ebay where an occassional little treasure can be found, {;-) right guys? Some people can throw cow dung at at photograph, stick a $10,000 price tag on it and call it "fine art"........others are just content in what they put into their art, not what they get out of it. Just because something has a higher price tag does not mean is good or fine Art........after all; cow dung still smells wether hung on a wall or out by the stables! So let's hear from some bareners who have recently purchased prints....after all who better to know the effort involved and the labor of love....how much are you willing to spend ? on whom ? and why ? What did you spend on your last print purchased ? Those of you who command higher prices on your work....are you willing to reciprocate ? I guess what I am really asking is this....are you honestly willing to pay for your print what you are asking others to pay for it.....if it was not yours ? xnks........Julio ------------------------------ From: Shireen Holman Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 18:40:25 -0400 Subject: [Baren 11850] sharpening Thanks to the person who recommended The Complete Guide to Sharpening. I just got it - not only does Leonard Lee tell you everything you ever wanted to know about sharpening plus twice as much more, but he also writes in an amusing and easy to read style - especially surprising for a relatively dry subject! Shireen *********************************************** Shireen Holman, Printmaker and Book Artist email: shireenh@earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~shireenh/ *********************************************** ------------------------------ From: "Tyrus Clutter" Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 16:59:55 -0600 Subject: [Baren 11851] Re: pricing & web sales I typically avoid buying very much art work on eBay. That is unless I know = something about the seller. There are dealers who sell on eBay and hope = for a great bidding war, taking their chances with a low reserve. Mostly I = end up buying through places like Sothebys.com. I have gotten some things = at pretty good prices (though the shipping can be outrageous). I don't = look simply for name, but I do have some bigger names simply because these = artists have been innovators and influence my own work. So, I'll drop a = few names: Hayter, Lasansky, Baskin, Kollwitz. I have others too, but not = necessarily such big names (and sorry, except for Baskin a lot of this is = intaglio, if that is allowed). I'm not completely comfortable letting = everyone know what I spend. It is usually in the hundreds, however. TyRuS ><~><~><~><~><~><~><~><~><~>< Prof. Tyrus Clutter ------------------------------ From: Cucamongie@aol.com Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 19:32:21 EDT Subject: [Baren 11852] big hanga prints Hi all, I've done four large hanga prints so far this year (30" x 30" - 32" x 36") of various animals and am currently working on one of a dog (with a more complex background than the other ones I did previously) which will be about 30" x 40" or so, quite a challenge when it comes to printing, and the cutting takes a long time too, but it's a fun challenge!! As for pricing, what can I tell you, it seems like a very individual issue, I sweat over these hanga prints so I'm not going to sell them at a dime store price, but I'm not charging thousands of dollars either... back to work ------------------------------ From: Jim Bryant Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 17:53:26 -0600 Subject: [Baren 11853] Re: pricing & web sales I must not trust the internet yet, or not entirely anyway. When I do buy work, I tend to use the internet as a resource to find images i may not have seen before. I then look up the artist in the gallery guide to find who carries them, then contact the gallery. It's not unusual for an edition to still be available at a gallery or press, and the same print be on sotheby's or artnet for hundreds of dollars more than the gallery. The most I have paid for a print this year is $500. Which is way more than i have sold one for! but i have them for sale between $40-250. usually the price is based on size and number of colors/times through the press. However, most of the prints that i own have been trades, which always makes me happy. jim- ------------------------------ From: Shireen Holman Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 18:49:05 -0400 Subject: [Baren 11854] Re: pricing & web sales At 05:29 PM 10/25/00 -0500, Julio wrote: >Those of you who command higher prices on your work....are you willing to >reciprocate ? >I guess what I am really asking is this....are you honestly willing to pay for >your print what you are asking others to pay for it.....if it was not yours ? One thing I have done as an artist who can't afford to buy much work from other artists, is exchange. Obviously the organized exchanges do this, but individual artists can also exchange particular pieces that they may each like (this sentence sounds funny, but you know what I mean). Shireen *********************************************** Shireen Holman, Printmaker and Book Artist email: shireenh@earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~shireenh/ *********************************************** ------------------------------ From: amanda yopp Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 17:53:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Baren 11855] Re: Baren Digest V13 #1192 Hello Baren, I have been lurking (sort of). Actually, I am so busy in school now that checking my email is a luxury. Maria I love your price list and the access to your works. And its quick. Thanks for the information too on pricing and setting up a website. Well, I wish this could be longer but my woodblocks and etchings are waiting (but the deadlines won't). - -Amanda Yopp Madison, WI formally of Tucson ------------------------------ From: "pwalls1234" Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 20:11:34 -0500 Subject: [Baren 11856] Amanda charset="iso-8859-1" Amanda, Have you met Lisa Bigalow yet? I believe she is teaching a print class at Wis. now. She does lots of woodcut, linocut stuff. If she is there tell her pete says hey!! pete walls baton rouge ------------------------------ From: barebonesart Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 18:33:04 -0700 Subject: [Baren 11857] Re: Baren Digest V13 #1192 From: Sharri LaPierre Date: Wed., Oct 25, 2000 Re/ Graham Graham, As always, you say it all so well. There is nothing more to add, except possibly, the joining your local Print Council, if there is one. If you don't know, check printalliance.org, it might help. Councils are a great way to network, get technical advice, and sometimes, even sell your work. Artists buy art. Sharri ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V13 #1193 *****************************