Baren Digest Thursday, 12 October 2000 Volume 13 : Number 1177 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GWohlken Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:29:55 -0400 Subject: [Baren 11669] Re: Baren Digest V13 #1175 Well, thank you, everyone, for your applause regarding my recent first place win. I would have sent a digital picture up to Show and Tell (me in front of my pieces with my blue ribbon) but when I went to the webpage, I found it was more complicated than I thought. My website is not easy to get into for putting up new stuff so I can't do the link. And html looks like another thing to learn. Anyway, appreciate your comments. Gayle ------------------------------ From: GWohlken Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:41:51 -0400 Subject: [Baren 11670] Re: Baren Digest V13 #1175 Karen, I've been enjoying your quilts. I have a question. It doesn't look as if there are any quilting stitches. Are they there, but not seen in the photos? Or is it my eyes? Complex designs in your work, highly creative! Has anyone tried putting their woodcut designs on clothes, making iron on transfers with their color printers? I'm doing something right now that is fun. I'm printing my woodcuts out very tiny and making pins to wear. I don't know how they will turn out, but I'm playing. I can't wait to see how the "Hound of the Baskervilles" looks as a pin. Gayle ------------------------------ From: Shireen Holman Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:30:35 -0400 Subject: [Baren 11671] Re: Baren Digest V13 #1172 Gayle, Congratulations! That's really wonderful! I've been looking at the dragons - they look like so much fun, I'm signing up for the snake exchange. This will be my first exchange, so I'm going to have to work hard. Karen, your quilts are beautiful and unusual. The colours are gorgeous - what kind of fabric are you printing on? Shireen ------------------------------ From: "Bea Gold" Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 08:15:18 -0700 Subject: [Baren 11672] Re: Baren Digest V13 #1175 charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Gayle, Remember Sylvia Taylor from Ireland. She did a black and white wood cut print quilt I think on linen. She's a midwife and all the images had (have) to do with birthing. Congratulations again. Bea Gold 2206 Micheltorena Street Los Angeles, CA 90039 (323) 660-0106 bnj50@earthlink.net http//www.beagold.com/ ------------------------------ From: Andrea Cuchetto (Dega) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 11:32:37 -0400 Subject: [Baren 11673] Re: Baren Digest V13 #1175 I've been using my color printer to make large (tiled) iron-on transfers. After I do the transfers I "build-up" the image further with other media. It can be quite a process (something the members of this list seem to be no stranger to). The colors and control I can muster with my images appeal to me. The tiny images you describe sound very clever, and challenging. Andrea. ------------------------------ From: "Jeanne Norman Chase" Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:13:03 -0400 Subject: [Baren 11674] Re: Woodblock prints on fabric charset="iso-8859-1" Karen Thanks for the site on quilts, it was so fascinating. I wear t shirts most of the time and you have me thinking of putting every woodcut that I have done on a t shirt. Just think of all the t shirts Maria would have if she did this!!!!! I am anxious to try it out. What kind of ink is best on cotton? Jeanne N. ------------------------------ From: "Andy English" Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 21:34:53 +0100 Subject: [Baren 11675] cutting snakes and drying prints charset="iso-8859-1" I LOVE the idea of snakes and have been planning snake engravings for a while. They are such flexible beasts so as to fit into any format and the potential for imagery and suggestion is enough to make your eyes boggle! I'll be there! As for drying prints, I used to have great problems in my tiny studio ("Smaller than my bathroom" - Brad) and so I ran a line along the ceiling with plastic clothes pegs threaded through it. As I pull a print, I hang it out to dry. I have a capacity of about 50 prints but have to duck a lot if they are large ones. Peace, Andy E ------------------------------ From: "Kinzua" Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 18:06:01 -0400 Subject: [Baren 11676] Re: Baren Digest V13 #1176 Textile Printing charset="Windows-1252" Thanks for all the nice comments and questions about my textile printing. I was a quiltmaker before I started printing and when I began dragging fabric into my printing class I got some funny looks. They all got used to it eventually but I never know how people will react. To answer some questions, I primarily use water based textile paints. I've used oil based printer's ink but it made the fabric stiff and hard to quilt and I wasn't sure how it would effect the fabric over time. Also I have health concerns about solvents. Most textile paints are made for screen printing and dry so fast that they don't transfer very well. The plate has to be washed often. I found one called Permaset in the Dick Blick catalog. It's great but it smells really strong, and when I teach a workshop and have a lot open in the classroom people start hallucinating---not really! But it's strong. I've been using a new one from Liquitex lately called Basics. It's ok for workshops and I'm trying to switch over. All of these paints need heat setting which can be done by ironing or throwing them in the cloths dryer for awhile. When I began making collagraphs I had to find a paint that dried really slowly since it takes so long to ink the plate. I use an etching press for collagraphs. About that time Grumbacher came out with their water mixable oil based paint, Grumbacher MAX. Now I hear you all snickering! Well, that's what I use for my collagraphs. You have to remember that fabric is much more forgiving that paper. The line is going to be fuzzy just by nature of the material but the image is sharp enough for textile printing. It doesn't work well on paper. Well it's not bad for some relief prints. It has just enough viscosity to make it easy to ink the plate and it can be washed up with soap and water. And the palette is great since it's made for painters. Andrea, as to your question about starching the fabric, I never have but I've used gesso sometimes to stiffen it, and when I print on something stretchy I stick a piece of Contact Paper on the back to stabilize it. I sometimes spray the fabric lightly to help it accept the paint. I'd like to see your work and Brad Cushman's. I love all kinds of textile surface design. Well, now you know more than you want to know about my textile paints. But just in case you have more questions, feel free to ask. I'm looking forward to that exchange where we all print on cotton. I think we'd better draw the line at making little quilts tho'. Karen http://homepages.msn.com/timessquare/kfberkenfeld/ ------------------------------ From: jenvey@juno.com Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 18:06:50 -0500 Subject: [Baren 11677] Re: Baren Digest V13 #1176 Textile Printing Karen You mentioned using Grumbacher MAX for collagraphs. I have always just used relief ink and mixed some setswell in with it and have never had a problem. The collagraphs are typially 30" X 40" . What kind of problem were you having with the other inks that Grumbacher MAX did better? Jean J ------------------------------ From: "eli griggs" Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 19:55:30 -0400 Subject: [Baren 11678] exchange sugestion charset="iso-8859-1" Hi there: All this talk about quilts and exchanges suggest to me a possible future exchange that I'd like to pass along for consideration. One or two of our 'master' printers design a large key block (or two)that is then divided into a suitable number of smaller sections. Sign up is on the usual first come-first serve, with each participating member seeing the overall key block but receiving his/her section by blind draw. That key block section is made downloadable to each member. Variations in printer output being part of the fun. Using the Honour System, no communicating to the others method, colour, ink, paper, or any other choices. Each member refrains from posting their image on the web until the completed master print is posted. The usual exchange rules apply to other details. Eli Griggs Charlotte N.C. USA ------------------------------ From: "eli griggs" Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 20:55:58 -0400 Subject: [Baren 11679] this and that charset="iso-8859-1" Hi there: Has anyone tried the better quality pure horse hair brushes in the metal handles sold buy woodworkers stores for glue ups, etc.? Woodworkers Supply, among others, has what looks like a decent product that might be used, at the least, as a temporary solution to having enough small brushes on hand. Because they are used for glue, I would think that attention has been paid to properly setting the bristles so they will not readily shed. They come in 6,9,12 and 18 (wooden handle) mm sizes and are grade 'A' horse hair. If anyone can tell me just how horse hair is graded I would appreciate it. Have anyone a basic list of pigments like Davids' that includes pigment numbers? Any artist looking to salvage wood for projects should consider going to local Salivation Army Centers (or Goodwill) where donated furniture is auctioned off to second hand stores and antique dealers. Our local Center takes in so much more than it can use that it holds a daily auction by the truck docks, in part to try to reduce the number of loads of stuff they must truck to the local land fill. They have to pay for each load dumped so If you wait until the bidding is over, you might make a deal for pick-up full of high quality salvage. A couple of things to keep in mind though is to offer a few dollars to the manager (for the store) and carry and use on the spot a pry bar or hammer to knock apart some of the salvage. Regular bidders can make it hard on a manager if they think that you are getting for free what they are expected to pay for. So if you need only drawers take only the drawers. Eli Griggs Charlotte N.C. USA ------------------------------ ] From: Vollmer/Yamaguchi Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 22:19:10 -0400 Subject: [Baren 11681] more than Op Art HIdeshi, I thought the Brigit Riley show was the best, too. Impressive, ambitious large scale paintings from the 60's. She really knows what she's doing. I look forward to meeting again. April Vollmer 174 Eldridge St, NYC 10002, 212-677-5691 http://www.aprilvollmer.com ------------------------------ From: Wanda Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 22:26:58 -0700 Subject: [Baren 11683] Picture of Gayle! Hi everyone - Gayle I took the liberty of sending your photo on over to the message board - so everyone can see you & your ribbon & your prints. Go on over to http://woodblock.com & then to "show & tell". Congrats, Gayle! Super job - 2 of my favorite prints too. Wanda ------------------------------ From: "John and Michelle Morrell" Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 21:50:21 -0800 Subject: [Baren 11684] Baren 1175 Textile prints Karen-- Such modesty! Your textiles are gorgeous! However, I have a certain irrational resentment toward quilts, probably because most of my peers are heavily into quilting and think I'm an odd duck for printing. Semper tedium indeed!!! Your prints are wasted on quilts, in my opinion, unless you specify they are to be used as wall hangings. Sort of a collage. Please forgive my prejudice, but I've been overexposed to chintz and calico........... <^><^><^><^><^><^> Michelle Morrell jmmorrell@gci.net <^><^><^><^><^><^> ------------------------------ From: GWohlken Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 08:10:26 -0400 Subject: [Baren 11686] Re: Baren Digest V13 #1176 Check Show and Tell, people, and you'll see me with my blue ribbon and my winning prints. Thank you, Dave, (and I suspect, Wanda) for making this happen http://www.woodblock.com/forum/messageboard/guestbook.html Gayle ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V13 #1177 *****************************