[Baren] the mailing list / discussion forum for woodblock printmaking Baren Digest Monday, 31 July 2000 Volume 12 : Number1098 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Graham Scholes Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:10:24 -0700 Subject: [Baren 10752] Re: Praise of Washi April Vollmer wrote..... >Hanga-shi is about $3 (Hiromi 310-998-0098), Nishinouchi (McClain's >800-832-4264) is about $14. Hummmmmm. I offered the Kizuki Hanga as shown in McClain's @ $30. for around the $14.00 figure a year ago. Mine is a slightly smaller sheet size - - so working this out, make McClain's $22.00 I think it was someone at bootcamp said that is was not nearly the quality of my Yamaguchi paper. So be it..... Some phrase that come to mind April.... lead them to water. blue in the face. stare a gift horse in the mouth. Certainly if you are going to be doing top quality work and .... well you all know the sermon. Of coarse I recongnize that there is a time and timing to move into the quality stuff. I also recognize that one would like to be in a position to make sufficient sales to at least pay for the damn stuff. Takes my to what comes first the Chicken or the Egg. The next question is easier to answer...... WHY DID THE CHICKEN CROSS THE ROAD? According to............ CAPTAIN JAMES T. KIRK To boldly go where no chicken has gone before. Graham ------------------------------ From: B Mason Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 23:56:15 -0700 Subject: [Baren 10753] paper April, I had very good results with the rives, but it was not a fine line print and I recognize that it would not work as well for that work. Matt Brown uses rives, so that was what got me started trying to figure out why it was not working for me. The answer was the amount of water in the paper. It is lightly sized. The print I was working on is 5 layers of color from ochre to very deep thallo green. It was a little grainy but it only contributed to the composition in this case.The rives heavyweight worked the best, but the lightweight was acceptable. I am sure the Washi would work better, but my goal was to find a less expensive paper I could use for both oil and water and the rives is it. The lightweight is $2.50 for a 30x40" sheet on sale at 100 sheets, about $3.20 by the single sheet at the local art store. The heavy weight was 19x26" and about $2.50 a sheet from Graphic Chemical in Chicago. I couldn't find a local source for it. I have a catalog from Hiromi so may order the $3 paper to try. I am still vasilating between water and oil, specifically because of the blended rolls available in oils which are fairly hard and time comsuming in water based. I will try the Akua Kolor and see if I can get a blended roll with it to use on a woodblock plate. It will have to wait a week or so, we seem to be pretty busy this month getting ready for my son's wedding. I thought the mother of the groom didn't have to do anything. Why am I so busy? Seems like one party after another. I will report back if I can figure out how to do it. I am pretty tenacious, so no doubt will get it to work eventually. I did love Graham's paper for printing, it truly was wonderful. But as I am just learning, it is pretty hard to use such expensive paper without crying a lot as you toss it into the trash. I am a very good printmaker with oil based ink and am pretty frustrated with hanga at times. Maybe my standards are too high for myself, but until I like what I am producing a little better it is hard to use a $20 sheet of paper. Thanks for the advise though, I always appreciate any tips anyone has. The more you know, the easier this stuff is! Best to all, Barbara M ------------------------------ From: "Dr. Rectangle" Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 03:19:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Baren 10754] RE: AkuaColor >Akua color uses gum arabic as a binder and glycerine to slow >drying. (Maybe there is honey in there, too!) All the Akua colors sure SMELL just like honey to me! ------------------------------ From: "Murilo" Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:50:17 -0300 Subject: [Baren 10755] Re: Baren Digest V12 #1097 I saw a documentary about "Art in the III Reich", it wasabout the persecution to Expressionism and its artists. The "FŸhrer" confiscated "les oeuvres". Many expressionists artists were in prison, others had to leave the country, were deaths, killed theirseves. It seems that He couldn't stand the expressinist art and its deformations, the geniality and knowledge of those artists. He himself was an "amateur" and spent much of the nation money buying works of art of third category. It's this all that in this picture abou the third reich and the German art of those days. It seems that the "FŸhrer" loved neoclassic figures. To the expressionists was atributed "madness". ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V12 #1098 *****************************