Baren Digest Tuesday, 11 July 2000 Volume 12 : Number1072 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gayle Wohlken Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:21:14 -0400 Subject: [Baren 10365] Re: Baren Digest V12 #1071 John Amoss said: > As one on the lonely exchange #7 waiting list,... John, I just joined up for the potential second group of Exchange #7. Any others out there want to try for a second #7 exchange? Gayle ------------------------------ From: "Jeanne Norman Chase" Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:06:29 -0400 Subject: [Baren 10366] Re: cheese keeper wood Darrel I keep scrounging all the time for wood used for other purposes. We have a great Goodwill here and I have found cheesecutters, trays, all kinds of strange things out of wood that I am going to use. Cannot beat the prices. As long as you can cut it with a good sharp tool, it can't be all bad. Jeanne N. ------------------------------ From: "Philip Smith" Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 08:13:29 -0700 Subject: [Baren 10367] Re: Baren Digest V12 #1071 This extension of three or four people seems to be a simple one,...let everyone in the Exchange say if they would mind doing those extra prints,....31 or 36 or what ever can't be that big a deal,.....Besides I want to, for one, see those latecomers efforts,...so they didn't set their alarms at 3:59amPST or what ever it was,...so what,..letslett'eminthelifeboatfolks,....whatayathink???? [ I hate to see drowning artists!!!!] Philip ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 08:32:49 -0700 Subject: [Baren 10368] Re: Exchange #7 over-run ... >Jean wrote: >> Why can't we expand it to 33 ... > >and Gayle added: >> Any chance of a second Baren #7 group ... > >On a slippery slope here gang ... Put on your ice skates and your will get around the problem quite nicely. Yes certainly 30 prints is a reasonable size run and lets not forget the expense for some of our members. 30 for Superman Dave, it is peanuts, and after see him sit on the floor for a week working like a machine doing 200 prints, I now understand how 30 prints is just a warm up session. There an easy solution to the problem ...... Do two exhanges ..... two themes giving bareners a choice ..... and the edition size would be 20. This could be offered at the same time (two lists) or simply space them appart by a week. It somewhat cuts down on the work load of the co-ordinators and distributing the work over more bods. This could be important from a cost point of view for some members..... I have heard that to get 30 prints some bareners are having to print nearly twice that many to meet the quota. Maybe a 30 and a 15 edition size would be of interest. Any any rate the council..... who ever they are ... (who are they anyway?) can arrive at a figure that would suit the members. This same subject came up several months back or was it a year. At anyrate we have grown in numbers since them and it looks as though a change is in order. I believe the swapshop evolved as a result on the need for a quasi exchange happening. >We've got good >programs in place - let's use them to their potential! I looks to me that they are at their potential, as the exchange is over subscribed. Graham/Victoria BC An Island in the Pacific Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine. ------------------------------ From: James G Mundie Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:05:34 -0400 Subject: [Baren 10369] Remedy for Exchange #7 blues What's that you say? You wanted to sign up for Exchange #7 but you were not fast enough with the submit button. Hmmm, that's a crying shame. Wait a minute! I think I know what could cure your exchanging jones... SWAPSHOP! Head on over to http://www.woodblock.com/forum/swapshop/index.html for more information. Cut! Print! Send! And yes, those of you that were already hip to this swapping business should be receiving a little package in the mail this week. Here it comes, Dan! James Mundie Philadelphia USA ------------------------------ From: Artsmadis@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:56:22 EDT Subject: [Baren 10370] Re: Baren Digest V12 #1071 Another exchange is being organized at egroups Printmakers.... http://www.egroups.com/group/Printmakers Darrell ------------------------------ From: ArtfulCarol@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 16:20:34 EDT Subject: [Baren 10371] Re: exchange #7 over-run I'm going ahead with a design even though I'm not in the #7 Swap. Is it the FUNNY theme? It's mine. In any case, I'm looking forward to having fun with it.. I just had the pleasure of meeting with Sarah Hauser in N Y, where she helped me to fine tune some cutting skills. It was good to learn that sometimes "the fault is not in ourselves..." but in the tools. That was reassuring and easy to correct. Yes,there is a face (and a body )behind these Baren names I've been communicating with! Carol Lyons Irvington, NY USA .. ------------------------------ From: Salsbury Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:56:58 -0700 Subject: [Baren 10372] Whats showing? Hi, Getting ready for two separate trips and wondered if anyone knows of shows or studios I should try to get to. July 17 - 23rd I will be in Fort Wayne, Indiana, and August 9 - 14th I'll be in New Mexico. Any suggestions? Have car will travel. :-) Sue ------------------------------ From: "Maria Arango" Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:12:19 -0700 Subject: [Baren 10373] black paper I recently finished a print on black paper and recorded the process for those interested: http://www.printmakingstudio.com/Studionotes/blackpaper/blackpaper.html Enjoy! Maria <><><><><><><><><><><><> Maria Arango, Printmaker Las Vegas Nevada USA http://www.1000woodcuts.com Follow along! quest1000woodcuts@hotmail.com <><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:09:43 -0700 Subject: [Baren 10374] Re: Whats showing? >Hi, > >Getting ready for two separate trips and wondered if anyone knows of shows >or studios I should try to get to. If you loose your way and end up in the North West..... Victoria and my studio could be an option.. The value of the Canadian dollar is pretty attractive. Also there is an excellent exhibition on at the Art Gallery of Greater Victoria with Sekino and Saito..... 20th Century Master woodblock artist. Fabulous show. Graham ------------------------------ From: baren_member@woodblock.com (Marco Marinucci) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 20:51:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Baren 10375] Digital reproductions. There is a new technology Message posted by: Marco Marinucci Unfortunately I work in CG (Computer Graphics for those who do not know yet ;) ) so I hear about the new stuff first. I Know I am going to start a fire here but you guys have got to look at this. They look great. Blurring the line always a little bit more about what is a "print" and why should we pay for a handmade one. http://www.creativepro.com/story/news/6922.html Juma art is at: http://www.shopdome.com/juma/ ------------------------------ From: Aqua4tis@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 21:13:01 EDT Subject: [Baren 10376] Re: Baren Digest V12 #1071 hi everyone i signed up for the #7 exchange because i thought it sounded like fun now im having second thoughts dont misunderstand i still think it will be fun but i dont know what my time will be like and im a bit overwhelmed by the thought of 30 or so prints (im still working on the sacred tree!!!) anyway i want to open my space to who ever is number one on the stand-by list if this is alright with dave and everyone i will still do #7 but i think id rather do the swap shop just now hope this helps georga ------------------------------ From: Artsmadis@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 21:34:05 EDT Subject: [Baren 10377] Re: cheese keeper wood Goodwill and other thrift stores are a really good source of unusual and interesting wood items which bring out the carver in you. I found a new cutting board made of end grain teak which should be nice if the pores aren't too big. About 8 X 12 inches for a dollar. Plus a lot of the wooden items are imported of some unknown kind of hardwood from the orient, Indonesia, etc. Darrell ------------------------------ From: Artsmadis@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 22:03:46 EDT Subject: [Baren 10378] Re: Baren Digest V12 #1068 In a message dated 7/10/00 5:24:12 AM Central Daylight Time, TSHACK@SILVER-BAYOU.COM writes: << methylcellulose >> methylcellulose is also available from ceramic supply houses in several different varieties--considerably cheaper than from an art supply. Darrell ------------------------------ From: "Philip Smith" Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 19:14:24 -0700 Subject: [Baren 10379] Re: Digital reproductions. There is a new technology Yeah but Marco, being a CG person you know that a "picture of a picture" will always be a reproduction,.....and not a fine art print.....This is an industry bugaboo,....These gallery owners know that they are duping the uneducated into buying a 'print',.....whereas if they called them posters,..they are only going to get $30 bucks for them,...add the word print, and the price increases 10 times,.....Take a Rembrandt etching, worth a few thousand, photograph it and reproduce it in this "new" method,...are they worth the same???? I remember when offset went dotless,....we all went crazy at this new technique,...yippydoodle!!! Philip ------------------------------ From: Cucamongie@aol.com Date: Mon Jul 10 22:29:50 2000 Subject: [Baren 10380] meeting another Barener! Hi everyone, today I had the pleasure of meeting Barener Carol Lyons, (aka "Artful Carol"). She's such a delightful, energetic person and such a creative spirit, she's using some very unusual and original printing surfaces! I'll let her further elucidate on this :) Each time I meet another person from this forum I feel honored to be in the company of such interesting, creative, wonderful people! best wishes Sarah ------------------------------ From: barbara patera Date: Mon, 10 Jul 100 19:47:23 Pacific Daylight Time Subject: [Baren 10381] Re:Juma gallery Visited the Juma gallery .... WOW! ..... Print quality be damned...those guys really have chutzpah to charge what they do..... and I'm an aficionado of digital art. Barbara P. ------------------------------ From: "TSHACK" Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 20:32:11 -0700 Subject: [Baren 10382] U-kiyoe license plate in Berkeley I saw a truck with the license plate "U Kiyoe" a few months back in Berkeley. Is that anyone one this list? Dwight ------------------------------ From: "TSHACK" Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 21:03:19 -0700 Subject: [Baren 10383] Re: U-kiyoe license plate in Berkeley charset="iso-8859-1" Actually, it was Ukiyo E ------------------------------ From: "Maria Arango" Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 19:13:37 -0700 Subject: [Baren 10384] Re: Digital reproductions. There is a new technology > Message posted by: Marco Marinucci > > Unfortunately I work in CG (Computer Graphics for those who > do not know yet ;) ) so I hear about the new stuff first. And I don't want to stoke the fire, but I received in the mailbox an unsolicited sample from a Graphics company that does repros and I was astounded. They sent me three samples of "watercolor" on watercolor paper, "oil" on canvas, and a black and white "woodcut" on Arches. You can tell the oil isn't really an oil because it is flat, that is, brushstrokes are represented but not "tactile." I could tell the woodcut because, hey! I'm a printmaker, but to someone that doesn't know what it is supposed to look like...no difference. The watercolor people I feel really sorry for, because this Iris stuff is incredible. Perfect washes, perfect reproduction on beautiful paper. Maybe a watercolorist could tell, but I couldn't. Truly incredible stuff. Now I'm going to chunk some serious ink on my paper so you'll have to use a four-wheel drive just to look at it. So there. Maria ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 20:57:31 -0700 Subject: [Baren 10385] Re:Juma gallery This site makes my statement re Gicl=E9e prints right on the mark. http://members.home.net/gscholes/Giclee.html If you take just one statement ...... "The results are an ultra-crisp continuous tone that produces no-dot reproduction, rich beautiful colours and details that are equal to or better than the original image." Better than the orginal ???????? Greed...... Graham ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 21:06:11 -0700 Subject: [Baren 10386] Re: U-kiyoe license plate in Berkeley This is a time frame or era of Japanese printmaking. ------------------------------ From: Wanda Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 22:56:32 -0700 Subject: [Baren 10387] Take a look at this! Hi folks, Thought you all might be interested in taking a look at a new page added to Matsumura's online catalogue: go here: http://www.woodlike.co.jp/gallery_top.html and click on the list. Very fun stuff. Judging from the amount of dragons - I assume the first page is New Year's cards. Oh my gosh - the 2nd page has Empress Tree seed pods - I just finished a black & white print of the same subject! Great minds across the oceans. Hmmm....gotta go look some more. Wanda ------------------------------ From: "Daniel L. Dew" Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 08:14:35 -0400 Subject: [Baren 10388] Re: U-kiyoe license plate in Berkeley there you go, the "humor of life". I can imagine the print now. dan dew ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V12 #1072 *****************************