[Baren} the mailing list / discussion forum for woodblock printmaking Baren Digest Monday, 12 June 2000 Volume 11 : Number1042 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cucamongie@aol.com Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 09:48:01 EDT Subject: [Baren 10026] editioning question Hi all, I have a question for those who know about the editioning-type stuff. Several rubbings which I did from my woodblocks (which were also used to make editioned prints) were accepted into a show (which is of art using crayons!). The question is, how do I mark these rubbings? Do I mark them as proofs, and then write the title in the middle and my signature on the right? I have taken several rubbings of each of these prints, but they all look different because of different color usage, variations in ways the crayons were rubbed, etc, so would I mark these all as artist's proofs? I would be grateful for any information about this that any of you folks out there could give me. By the way, the show is at Open Space Gallery in Allentown, PA in July in case any of you live in that neck of the woods. best wishes, Sarah in sweaty NYC Cucamongie@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 08:36:44 -0700 Subject: [Baren 10027] Rubbings >crayons!). The question is, how do I mark these rubbings? Do I mark them >as proofs, and then write the title in the middle and my signature on the Hi Sarah I gather you will not be pulling (rubbing) a lot of images in this way. Using colour they are prints and numbering is not necessary as you will never get exactly the same each time. Title can appear on left and signature on the right under the image. There is no law it is your choice. If you were to blind emboss them (rub with no colour) they would be all the same and numbering could be used. Graham/Victoria BC An Island in the Pacific ------------------------------ From: judy mensch Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 11:57:16 -0400 Subject: [Baren 10028] Re: editioning question Sarah -There are a few ways to mark the rubbings. You could call them monoprints and just write that. You could think of them as a separate part of an edition , with the same title, and mark them with roman numerals. In that case you would have a split edition which is perfectable acceptable. You could also mark them as trial proofs, meaning they are proofs on the way to the final edition. If they were mine, I'd use monoprints since you've described them, I think, as looking quite different than the origional editions. What do you think? Judy ------------------------------ From: jenvey@juno.com Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 11:00:22 -0500 Subject: [Baren 10029] Re: Baskin Good Morning. Wanted to ask how you typically recommend preserving your wood blocks if you are going to store them for some time. Also, was asked the other day what "pp" meant on a print. It was written in pencil at the bottom left hand corner of print. I would anticipate that one "p" would stand for proof but what of the other one??? Thanks Jean Jenvey ------------------------------ From: Wanda Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 09:24:42 -0700 Subject: [Baren 10030] Re:"pp" Jean, welcome to Baren! I would guess that "pp" means "press-proof" or "printer's proof" the print given to the printer (not everyone pulls their own prints) to use as a guideline for the edition. Wanda ------------------------------ From: Artsmadis@aol.com Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 13:05:42 EDT Subject: [Baren 10031] Re: ebay & inserting wood In a message dated 6/11/00 12:27:33 AM Central Daylight Time, robertson@canby.com writes: << Those of you looking for books - don't forget to check the independent book sellers who list their wares with Bibliofind: http://www.bibliofind.com/ >> Thanks, I didn't know of this address. Will have to contact them. Also didn't know that amazon sold used books. There is a recently out of print book I'm dying to get my hands on [but probably couldn't afford if I did find it] on the graphic work of the German Expressionists, will try bibliofind and keep my fingers crossed. I'm lucky enough [!?] to live in Dallas where there is Half Price Books, whose main store is about as big as a Wal Mart and I haunt that whenever possible. Yours, Darrell ------------------------------ From: "Maria Arango" Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 10:39:52 -0700 Subject: [Baren 10032] Re: out of print books Darrell and other book junkies, Barnes & Noble also has a huge listing of rare and out of print books, with a separate search for those listings. I have had good luck finding books, a true heaven for a printmaking book junkie like moi. I just put their search engine on my site's reference library page http://www.printmakingstudio.com/studio/library.html Happy shopping (I hate them, I always find stuff I *have* to have!) Maria <><><><><><><><><><><><> Maria Arango, Printmaker Las Vegas Nevada USA http://www.printmakingstudio.com maria@mariarango.com mariten@lvcm.com <><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------ From: Pedrobot@aol.com Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 13:45:37 EDT Subject: [Baren 10033] Re: out of print books I've tried Barnes & Noble, and Bibliofind, and several others, but where I find 3 or 4 with them, I usually find 15 or more with ABE. http://www.abebooks.com/ - --Pete ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 11:34:36 -0700 Subject: [Baren 10034] Re: Baskin >Also, was asked the other day what "pp" meant on a print. It was written Generally the 'pp' stands for Publishers Proof. There are several variation that have popped up over the years for this abbreviation. The best method for storing your plates is to store them on the end grain edge with a slip sheet of protective thick paper between the plates. If you are in a zone where earth quakes are possible, like here on the west coast, I have a cupboard on the floor for the storage. Regards Graham/Victoria BC An Island in the Pacific http://members.home.net/gscholes/ ------------------------------ From: "Philip Smith" Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 13:59:23 -0700 Subject: [Baren 10036] Re: out of print books Darrell,.....yet another source for books [and used books] www.powells.com . Philip ------------------------------ From: ArtfulCarol@aol.com Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 18:12:38 EDT Subject: [Baren 10038] What gets us going? Dear Bareners, I have a few inspiration stories, but I think this is as good as any. When I was showing in the New York Artists Equity Print Exhibit my husband asked Robert Blackburn, the juror what his criteria for selection was. "Gut feeling" he said. Carol Lyons Irvington, NY USA ------------------------------ From: Artsmadis@aol.com Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 19:15:02 EDT Subject: [Baren 10039] Re: out of print books << Darrell,.....yet another source for books [and used books] www.powells.com >> Thanks, I also bookmarked that one. I really like to get these addresses.Gives a much greater opportunity to find books on prints. A lot [I would say most] art books do not show many of the arist's prints or other graphic work, most concentrate on paintings, whereas I believe the prints of very many artists are thier best work [Munch, Kirchner, Heckel, Klinger, Beckmann, Nolde among others.] And of course I'm a real book junkie and have been for years. Yours Darrell ------------------------------ From: "Gregory D. Valentine" Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 22:22:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Baren 10042] Provincetown prints I was looking at some BJO Nordfeldt prints, and (perhaps I missed something) was struck that no one has done a "Provincetown" print for an exchange. Like a reduction print, a Provincetown print is done on a single block, which makes for faster carving and easier registration. It's like a leaded glass window, only instead of black between areas of color, that outline is cut away, and exposes the paper. Each individual cell in the print is separately inked and printed, but the whole composition is there before you on the block. The idea is credited to Nordfeldt and adopted by a group of block printers working in Provincetown around 1916 or so. Maybe couple it with a reduction print. Thought the idea might be of use to someone. --Greg Valentine P.S. I know he was a painter, but I always thought of Jacob Lawrence as a printer. ------------------------------ From: barbara patera Date: Mon, 12 Jun 100 04:32:43 Pacific Daylight Time Subject: [Baren 10043] Nordfelt Prints Gregory, I've used the method but always called them "white line prints" and have done the inking with water color and then print on slightly damp paper. Don't know if this is quite the same method that you are talking about but do like what happens using my method....unexpected watercolory things that are very nice. Have thought about using oil based ink but haven't done so yet. The inking process would sure be a lot more critical. Barbara P. ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V11 #1042 *****************************