[Baren} the mailing list / discussion forum for woodblock printmaking Baren Digest Monday, 22 May 2000 Volume 11 : Number1015 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lynita Shimizu Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 10:29:18 -0400 Subject: [Baren 9694] Re: Sosaku Hanga Artist. Graham, wish I could jump on the next plane to Greater Victoria to see that show. Kiyoshi Saito has been my inspiration since I saw a retrospective exhibit of his work in Tokyo back in 1977. I have two catalogs from that time with pages falling out from being handled so often. I've always wondered how Saito achieved some of the texture he uses in so many of his prints. For example, any clues on how he did the background on the Maiko shown here? http://spectacle.berkeley.edu/~fiorillo/3saito.html Actually, for that background it looks like he could have used a knife to cut and scratch plywood? ... but on some of his prints he has a similar effect which looks like an exaggerated use of goma-zuri. Anyone know what I'm talking about? Best wishes, Lynita ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 08:38:54 -0800 Subject: [Baren 9695] Re: Sosaku Hanga Artist. Lynita wrote..... >I've always wondered how Saito achieved some of the texture he uses No I don't know what Saito used for the background. An educated guess is that he took a plate layed it on a cement or mortar pad and pressed to get the design. Hummm I just finished my driveway and think the pattern would be wonderful. >looks like an exaggerated use of goma-zuri. Goma-zuri .... Hummm.... let me see Goma ..... a technique to get a soft edge shape (circle) in hanga Zuri ...... Carriage with a fringe on top. Graham/Victoria BC An Island in the Pacific ------------------------------ From: Wanda Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 09:57:00 -0700 Subject: [Baren 9696] Re: Sosaku Hanga Artist. No Grahan, that's a surrey ( with the fringe on top) :-) Could the background of Saito's print be "tatakizuri"- printing by tapping (printing with a cloth) ? Or "kimedashi" embossing with a concave block? Which I first read as "concrete block" - Graham, I'd like to try the new drive-way. Perhaps we could run over the block, thereby bringing in some 'new' techniques? This site with Saito's print is very interesting - and has a prominent link to Dave's Woodblock.com site. The trip to the museum in Vistoria sounds wonderful. I really love Hasui's prints right now. And have always loved Hiroshige's wonderful sense of humor & composition. I'm quite sure that I would really enjoy *any* of the Japanese prints they would be willing to show us. Wanda ------------------------------ From: "Daniel L. Dew" Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 16:33:56 -0400 Subject: [Baren 9697] Hello all, - - Maria, thank you for the time and dedication it must have took to co-ordinate this exchange. Your jewels await you for a job well done. I thought of you today as I dragged out the oily stuff for my most recent print. It's a cute 5" x 7", done in black, with a blue and red tint. The title is PROVERBS 26:10, "better to live on the corner of the roof than to share a house with a quarrelsome wife". Thought I ought to wait till after mothers day before completing this one! I send it to Dave for posting later, after it dries. - - Julio, awesome print. I absolutely love it. - -Dave, once again, I wish you could hear the applause and the oohs and ahhhs from here. Than ks again for the "Baren" site. Oh well, back to CUT PRINT dan dew ------------------------------ From: CHRISTY BLANK Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 16:17:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Baren 9698] Exchange #5 Wow!!! I'm so impressed with the prints, they arrived just in time for me to share them with my students before we get out for summer....THREE MORE DAYS....BIG GRIN. I'm so glad you guys let me play! :) The quality and the composition is really wonderful. Someone else mentioned that it was much better than a slide show on the web, and I have to agree! I'm all fired up and ready to go... When I get back from Ireland, I see lots of printing in my furture. Christina ------------------------------ From: "Bea Gold" Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 21:53:05 -0700 Subject: [Baren 9699] RE: packages arriving! Ah Maria, I am truly grateful and respectful for all your efforts, your suffering and your pleasure and your achievements! Bea ------------------------------ From: BHearn2001@aol.com Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 08:32:21 EDT Subject: [Baren 9700] Re: Baren Digest V11 #1014 Regarding images Japanese ,I am drawn time and again to view in COLLECTING THEN AND NOW/ MODERN JAPANESE PRINTS by Mary and Norman Tolman (foreword by James Michener for what that's worth) ISBN 0 8048 1936, the present treatment of images past. Interesting to see how modern Japanese artists view the pictorial language of their ancestors. Barbara Hearn ------------------------------ From: David Bull Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 21:26:28 +0900 Subject: [Baren 9701] Powder pigment preparation ... Those of you who are headed for Graham's place next month could perhaps check out the newest page in the Encyclopedia: http://woodblock.com/encyclopedia/updates.html It deals with the preparation of powder pigments ... the same pigments that I will be bringing with me. Bring some similar jars if you want to make your own set ... Dave P.S. Graham, do I need to bring a mortar like the one shown in the photos, or can I pick up something like that locally over there? ------------------------------ From: BHearn2001@aol.com Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 08:44:10 EDT Subject: [Baren 9702] Re: Baren Digest V11 #1014 Graham, Thanks so much for the Greater Victoria Museum's web site. It is so facinating. And what you are doing re hands on demos IN the museum is as good as it gets! Living a southern city(Charlotte, NC) as I do, a city trying to identify what they want to be, and having a minor museum located where there is no walk in traffic ever(well almost), it must be gratifying to those who see you at your work. My delima is whether to try to help fix a huge problem or move to a city where "things are already happening." Barbara Hearn ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V11 #1015 *****************************