Delivery-Agent: @(#)$Id: local.c,v 1.54 1998/10/30 06:30:53 akira1 Exp $ on adam Received: by j.xx.or.jp (ATSON-1) ; 5 Mar 2000 22:03:15 +0900 Return-Path: Received: from lancer.xx.or.jp (lancer.xx.or.jp [202.224.39.3]) by trantula.xx.or.jp (8.8.8/3.7W) with ESMTP id WAA11573 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 22:03:14 +0900 (JST) Received: from ml.xx.or.jp (ml.xx.or.jp [202.224.39.111]) by lancer.xx.or.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27FD848AB for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 22:03:14 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by ml.xx.or.jp (8.8.8/3.7W) with SMTP id WAA31042; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 22:00:13 +0900 Received: by ml.xx.or.jp; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 22:00:13 +0900 Received: (from ml@localhost) by ml.xx.or.jp (8.8.8/3.7W) id WAA39086 for baren-digest-outgoing; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 22:00:13 +0900 Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 22:00:13 +0900 Message-Id: <200003051300.WAA39086@ml.xx.or.jp> From: owner-baren@ml.xx.or.jp To: baren@ml.xx.or.jp Subject: Baren Digest V10 #928 Reply-To: baren@ml.xx.or.jp Errors-To: owner-baren@ml.xx.or.jp Precedence: bulk [Baren]: The mailing list / discussion forum for woodblock printmaking. Sender: owner-baren-digest@ml.xx.or.jp X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 Baren Digest Sunday, 5 March 2000 Volume 10 : Number 928 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John and Jan Telfer Date: Sat, 4 Mar 00 21:52:53 -0000 Subject: [Baren 8733] Re: Dragons Dragon postcards are still arriving in my mail and my printmaking friends are very impressed with the idea of our exchanges. Thank you, Giselle, your Kimono Dragon was a wonderfully presented and executed postcard. Congratulations. I have posted my Exchange #5 Ju nin, To iro to Maria. Jan ------------------------------ From: Cucamongie@aol.com Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 09:02:41 EST Subject: [Baren 8734] pr, big prints, etc Dave, thanks for reminding me, I've been so busy I forgot to mention that for those of you who take the newsletter studioNOTES, there's a little quote from me about how wonderful this forum is- Thanks for the advice about the printing from several of you, Susan Rostow makes a retarder for her water-based inks, so I may try this first, as her inks have worked quite well for me for woodblock printing. As for the brick, welll.. anyway, I have a while to mull this over as the cutting will take a while! best wishes all, Sarah ------------------------------ From: "Jean Eger" Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 08:01:49 -0800 Subject: [Baren 8735] criticism charset="iso-8859-1" Gregory, That's quite a statement from you who says the government in Kamapala is supersensitive to political statements in art. I guess the only worse thing would be refugees in body bags, inscribed with the victim's statement, "God, what did we do wrong to deserve this genocide?" And the answer coming from the clouds, "You didn't do anything wrong, we just do this to all Serbs, Croats, Jews, Catholics, Blacks, Unitarians, Asian Americans working in defense plants, and disabled people. " Your comments are an extraordinay example of experimental criticism. Jean Eger http://users.lanminds.com/~jeaneger > From: Gregory Robison > Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 21:38:51 +0300 > Subject: [Baren 8720] Re: lino-cut > > Kampala, 3 March 2000 > > Dimitris: I'm way behind in looking at people's sites & their posted new work > and in commenting on the X4 prints received two weeks ago. Nevertheless, I > loved your "St. Refugee" print (my wife is the US Gov's Refugee Coordinator > for East Africa...so we're sensitive to refugees). > > There are so many allusions in your imagery: the "target" around the head is > both a nimbus, an aureole of martyrdom, as well as an echo of the act of > defiance toward the world of the citizens of Belgrade, of all political > stripes, who sported paper targets on their lapels at the nighly rallies > during the bombings... There are no explosions here, only the sleek empennage > of bombs like the shafts of arrows into the twisted and bound torso of St. > Sebastian, so often depicted in Western art and so haunting an image of > martyrdom...the upturned hands that suggest resignation, prayer, possibly > surrender, maybe even a taunt ("ha, ha, you can't hit me!"), but not really > despair or anihilation: "you have pierced my side, you have numbered my bones" > - -- those stones of the house are like a rib-cage-- "but I am still standing!" > But there is no joy in this taunt, if taunt it is. The eyes are tired, the > brow furrowed, the feet flat on the ground: no dancing here ...the uprooted > grape vines: all that is solid and ancient and traditional, the grapes that > take so long to grow, are pulled away -- and pulled away by the act of > running, by the effort to survive, not by the bombs themselves: this is a > subtle twist you have added, the image of another kind of collateral damage: > the ambiguous, imponderable, unpredictable, profound destruction that > accompanies war -- and suggests the comtemptable obfuscation of the > perpetrators of horrors in all wars: "It was not we who destroyed your > vinyards! You did so yourselves as you ran from our bombs!" ... The > semi-open roof through which Saint R. peers has probably been in ruins for > years: he'll later claim damages for what is really his own poor maintenance! > Clever peasant! ... and that spiky-collared, mean "kuche" biting his leg: > yes, his pecker looks like a bomb (and Our Hero's pecker looks like a flaccid > piece of drapery...where are your cojones, hombre!?), but it's not a NATO dog; > he's a local dog. Maybe St. Ref's own dog. Here is another forgotten fact of > war: "You bomb my house and as a result my neighbors can't be trusted, even my > own dog even turns on me...everything is on its head!" ... And, finally, > the stark horizon: it is not flat like a close-up snap shot. It is not > something happening in a remote Balkan valley. We can see the curvature of the > earth, and we are therefore forced to realize that this must be quite close to > us. It is part of our world, and not very far away. > > Anyway, I'm a pretty-landscapes-and-poets-drinking-tea type printmaker, but > that's what I see in this great print. (Bring one for the Refugee Office when > you come to Kampala. It'll shake 'em up a bit!) > > Yours, > Gregory Robison ------------------------------ From: Wanda Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 11:15:48 -0800 Subject: [Baren 8736] Re: New catalogue ... For those of you who are having as much trouble as me in finding the right page for downloading this little package (joking-it ain't little!) here is the URL for the Asian Language Font Package: http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/cjkfontpack.html Now, where do I learn to read Japanese? I'm serious! Wanda ------------------------------ From: Wanda Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 12:12:38 -0800 Subject: [Baren 8737] Re: New catalogue ... And......you have to have Acrobat Reader 4.0 to use it. Geez! Wanda ------------------------------ From: Wanda Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 14:21:49 -0800 Subject: [Baren 8738] Re: New catalogue ... O.K. Acrobat Reader 4.01 now downloaded. The catalog looks wonderful. Nice illustrations & I *can* read the sizes & the prices. So, perhaps I can order without too much problems? I think I will take it to school & prevail upon one of the Japanese students to translate for me! Aha! Yes! Wanda ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 18:26:41 -0800 Subject: [Baren 8739] Re: New catalogue ... >And......you have to have Acrobat Reader 4.0 to use it. Geez! > >Wanda Easy solution Wanda. Go to http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/acmac.htm and download the program. Actually everybody should have Acrobat Reader. It is becoming standard for accessing many documents. If you do any amount of compiling documents for the web or send via e-mail you should purchase Acrobat 4 . Graham ------------------------------ From: David Bull Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 19:50:03 +0900 Subject: [Baren 8740] Encyclopedia update ... A little update to the Encyclopedia this evening ... http://w.com/encyclopedia/updates.html Dave ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V10 #928 ****************************